アイデアルを	0		
アイディアルを	0		
アイデアルが	57		
アイディアルが	0

Doesn't look like it's used as a noun. Daijr and koj only have it as an adjective.

@@ -12 +11,0 @@
-<pos>&n;</pos>

アイディアル	935	26.5%
アイデアル	2595	73.5%

nikk does have it as a noun too
(daijs doesn't)

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<reb>アイディアル</reb>
+<reb>アイデアル</reb>
@@ -8 +8 @@
-<reb>アイデアル</reb>
+<reb>アイディアル</reb>
@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<pos>&n;</pos>

It could maybe go second.

* luminous: 「ジンクス」という日本語は jinx から来ているが, これは「悪運をもたらすもの」「貧乏神」という悪い意味にしか用いない
* wisdom (similar note)
* jawiki: …日本においては良い縁起の意味でも使われることがある

Best not to lead with "jinx".

@@ -10 +9,0 @@
-<gloss>jinx</gloss>
@@ -13,0 +13 @@
+<gloss>jinx</gloss>

gg5, luminous, wisdom, daijr

@@ -11 +11,3 @@
-<gloss>omen (can be a good omen)</gloss>
+<gloss>thing that brings good or bad luck</gloss>
+<gloss>popular belief</gloss>
+<gloss>superstition</gloss>

ステッカー	1625412	99.4%
ステッカ	10149	0.6%

@@ -6,0 +7,4 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ステッカ</reb>
+<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>

Drop it.

@@ -13,4 +12,0 @@
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<gloss>stacker</gloss>
-</sense>

gg5; chuujiten; prog

Not seeing "stacker" in my refs, but if it's to be kept, should be split out.

@@ -10,0 +11 @@
+<gloss>(adhesive) label</gloss>

Aligning.

@@ -9,0 +10 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1103450">パンフレット</xref>
@@ -11,0 +13,2 @@
+<gloss>brochure</gloss>
+<gloss>leaflet</gloss>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_focus

Nikk says that this is wasei. I'm inclined to agree. English-language web results for "pan focus" seem to come from Japanese sources.

@@ -6,0 +7,3 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>パン・フォーカス</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -9 +12,4 @@
-<gloss>pan-focus</gloss>
+<field>&photo;</field>
+<field>&film;</field>
+<lsource ls_wasei="y">pan focus</lsource>
+<gloss>deep focus</gloss>

gg5, prog, wisdom

@@ -10,0 +11 @@
+<gloss>pamphlet</gloss>
@@ -12 +13 @@
-<gloss>pamphlet</gloss>
+<gloss>leaflet</gloss>

Syn

@@ -11,0 +11,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1660440">小冊子</xref>

gg5
押し殺し	        82,704	98.8%	
圧し殺し	        550	0.7%	
押しころし	332	0.4%	
圧しころし	52	0.1%	
押殺し	        73	0.1%

Nothing wrong with "stifle".

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11,0 +13 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -14,0 +17 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -17,0 +21 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -26 +30 @@
-<gloss>to stifle to death</gloss>
+<gloss>to press to death</gloss>
@@ -32,2 +36,2 @@
-<gloss>to suppress (a laugh, etc.)</gloss>
-<gloss>to muffle (one's breathing)</gloss>
+<gloss>to suppress (a laugh, one's anger, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>to stifle</gloss>
@@ -35 +39 @@
-<gloss>to conceal (e.g. one's emotions)</gloss>
+<gloss>to hold (one's breath)</gloss>

@@ -32 +32 @@
-<gloss>to stifle (a laugh, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>to suppress (a laugh, etc.)</gloss>

daijs
G n-ngrams:
  押し殺す	18895
  圧し殺す	132
  押しころす	53
  圧しころす	No matches
  押殺す	No matches
  おしころす	134

reordering kanji forms

@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>押し殺す</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,4 +11 @@
-<keb>押し殺す</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>押殺す</keb>
+<keb>押しころす</keb>
@@ -17 +17 @@
-<keb>押しころす</keb>
+<keb>押殺す</keb>

daij, Luminous, prog, 新和英中辞典

@@ -29,0 +29,8 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&v5s;</pos>
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
+<gloss>to stifle (a laugh, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>to muffle (one's breathing)</gloss>
+<gloss>to subdue (one's voice)</gloss>
+<gloss>to conceal (e.g. one's emotions)</gloss>
+</sense>

Agree.

A couple websites which add a space character after 蛙 instead of a comma.
https://imidas.jp/proverb/detail/X-02-C-02-5-0011.html
https://nativecamp.net/heync/question/27726

Many of my refs (Kanjipedia, gendai reikai, daijirin, meikyo) display the readings inline with this expression, so 蛙大海 is displayed as 蛙(かわず)大海(たいかい). That sort of setup makes the expression easier to parse. That option isn't available to us here, but we can use a comma to achieve the same sort of effect.

I wouldn't suggest that we start inserting commas everywhere they may be useful without regard for real-world usage. But the comma usage here is supported by some minor Japanese refs, and I think the utility of the comma is more important than the inconsistency with the major refs.

Should we really use commas for expressions where they aren't common? It's useful for breaking down the expression, but the implication is that this is the most common form.

The "故事成語を知る辞典" (linked below) seems to be the only ref that uses a comma. I have 8 other refs that don't use it (Daijr/s, koj, kanjipedia, etc.).

The comma here seems useful to me.

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>井の中の蛙大海を知らず</keb>
+<keb>井の中の蛙、大海を知らず</keb>
@@ -8 +8,2 @@
-<keb>井の中の蛙、大海を知らず</keb>
+<keb>井の中の蛙大海を知らず</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>いのなかのかわずたいかいをしらず</reb>
+<reb>いのなかのかわず、たいかいをしらず</reb>

Doesn't seem very common.
(we don't include commas in the reading field)

@@ -12,5 +11,0 @@
-<re_restr>井の中の蛙大海を知らず</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>いのなかのかわず、たいかいをしらず</reb>
-<re_restr>井の中の蛙、大海を知らず</re_restr>

Probably [hist].

daij, meikyo

[dated] indicates that the term is dated, not the thing itself. Not sure about [hist].

@@ -12,3 +12,5 @@
-<misc>&dated;</misc>
-<gloss>picture book</gloss>
-<gloss>picture album</gloss>
+<gloss>book of pictures (paintings, drawings)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>book on the techniques and theory of painting</gloss>

画譜	6627

[dated] is probably OK.

or hist?
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/画譜

@@ -12 +12,3 @@
-<gloss>picture book or album</gloss>
+<misc>&dated;</misc>
+<gloss>picture book</gloss>
+<gloss>picture album</gloss>

Our usual style.

@@ -36 +36 @@
-<s_inf>usu. as ...(に)吸い込まれる</s_inf>
+<s_inf>usu. in the passive</s_inf>

smk 8th ed.: ㊁〔「（…に）吸い込まれる」の形で〕

All the examples in my references have the second sense in the passive form.

@@ -35,0 +36 @@
+<s_inf>usu. as ...(に)吸い込まれる</s_inf>

gg5, prog, daij, meikyo

This is how the kokugos split the senses.

@@ -30 +30,2 @@
-<gloss>to imbibe</gloss>
+<gloss>to soak up</gloss>
+<gloss>to absorb</gloss>
@@ -35,2 +36,2 @@
-<gloss>to absorb</gloss>
-<gloss>to soak up</gloss>
+<gloss>to swallow up (in a crowd, whirlpool, the darkness, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>to suck in</gloss>

〈吸（い）／すい／スイ〉〈込／こ／コ〉む

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮
│ 吸い込む │ 156,517 │ 93.3% │
│ 吸いこむ │   5,097 │  3.0% │ - sK
│ 吸込む　 │   2,193 │  1.3% │ - sK
│ すい込む │      80 │  0.0% │
│ すいこむ │   3,822 │  2.3% │
╰─ーーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -14,0 +16 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

iwakoku: 中国の兵法の書「六韜」の、虎韜の巻から出た語。

@@ -19,0 +20 @@
+<misc>&id;</misc>
@@ -25,0 +27 @@
+<misc>&id;</misc>

May as well de-clutter this a little.

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

With 5k in the ngrams I'd keep it.

@@ -8,0 +9,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>とらの巻</keb>

とらの巻 = around 2% of hits, I don't think it's needed.

@@ -9,3 +8,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>とらの巻</keb>

@@ -30 +30 @@
-<gloss>location which produces good sake</gloss>
+<gloss>sake-producing area</gloss>

酒処	58788	71.8%
酒どころ	19955	24.4%
酒所	1941	2.4% <- several kokugos
さけどころ	1170	1.4%
さかどころ	0	0.0%

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -16,4 +17,4 @@
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<gloss>place known as a production area of good sake</gloss>
-</sense>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>さかどころ</reb>
+<re_inf>&rk;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
@@ -25,0 +27,4 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>location which produces good sake</gloss>

よい酒の生産地として知られる所。さかどころ。

@@ -15,0 +16,4 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>place known as a production area of good sake</gloss>
+</sense>

酒処	58788
酒どころ	19955
酒所	1941

@@ -5,0 +6,6 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>酒どころ</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>酒所</keb>

daijr, gg5

It's not the symbol that's abstract.

@@ -20,2 +20 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
-<gloss>(abstract) symbol</gloss>
+<gloss>symbol (of something abstract)</gloss>
@@ -23 +22 @@
-<gloss>representation</gloss>
+<gloss>(symbolic) representation</gloss>

Correct POS order
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -18,0 +19 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
@@ -20 +20,0 @@
-<pos>&vt;</pos>

Meikyo vt and vi additions to n,vs entries
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -19,0 +20 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos>

Certainly simplifies it.

I think I prefer the single-sense approach of sankoku and smk. They give the literal "grasping" meaning only as an etymological note. It doesn't appear to be used with that meaning in practice. None of the refs have any "grasping with the hand" examples.

@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<gloss>grasp (of the situation, meaning, etc.)</gloss>
@@ -19,7 +20 @@
-<gloss>grasp</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<pos>&vs;</pos>
-<pos>&vt;</pos>
-<gloss>grasping (with one's hand)</gloss>
+<gloss>control</gloss>
@@ -28,2 +22,0 @@
-<gloss>catch</gloss>
-<gloss>control (of a situation)</gloss>

prog

I think this went on the wrong sense

@@ -20 +19,0 @@
-<gloss>control (of a situation)</gloss>
@@ -29,0 +29 @@
+<gloss>control (of a situation)</gloss>

chujiten, daij

@@ -17 +17 @@
-<gloss>appearing on the surface</gloss>
+<gloss>outward sign</gloss>
@@ -23,2 +23,2 @@
-<gloss>symbol</gloss>
-<gloss>sign</gloss>
+<gloss>symbol (of something abstract)</gloss>
+<gloss>emblem</gloss>

mk

@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+<pos>&vi;</pos>
@@ -20,0 +22 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos>

As it's not jargon, I don't think it needs a tag. Not tagged in GG5.

@@ -18 +17,0 @@
-<field>&finc;</field>

@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<field>&finc;</field>

簿記	1,629,275		
簿記し	229		
簿記する	34

The JEs only have "bookkeeping".
Not vs.

@@ -18,3 +17,0 @@
-<pos>&vs;</pos>
-<gloss>journalization (accounts)</gloss>
-<gloss>journalisation</gloss>

gg5, prog

@@ -19,0 +20 @@
+<gloss>witchcraft</gloss>

daij, meikyo
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/jugglery

GG5 has jugglery (not juggling) but I don't think it's a great gloss.

@@ -23,2 +23 @@
-<gloss>magic tricks</gloss>
-<gloss>juggling</gloss>
+<gloss>magic tricks (with large-scale props)</gloss>

daijisen

@@ -18,2 +18 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
-<gloss>black magic</gloss>
+<gloss>magic</gloss>
@@ -24 +22,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>

gg5, prog, wisdom

I don't think "black art" is needed.

@@ -12,2 +12 @@
-<gloss>black magic</gloss>
-<gloss>black art</gloss>
+<gloss>(black) magic</gloss>

gg5

I think we should lead with the intransitive glosses.

@@ -19,0 +20,4 @@
+<gloss>to be needed</gloss>
+<gloss>to be necessary</gloss>
+<gloss>to be required</gloss>
+<gloss>to be wanted</gloss>
@@ -22,2 +25,0 @@
-<gloss>to be needed</gloss>
-<gloss>to be wanted</gloss>

Quiet. Closing.

This has been hanging around. I'm adding both gloss styles (as both can be found in examples), approving it (to trim the queue) and reopening it to allow further discussion )if any.)

@@ -19,0 +20,2 @@
+<gloss>to need</gloss>
+<gloss>to want</gloss>

Not a noun.

@@ -8,3 +8,4 @@
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<s_inf>known as ちょうおん</s_inf>
-<gloss>long vowel mark (usually only used in katakana)</gloss>
+<pos>&unc;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1797660">長音符・1</xref>
+<s_inf>indicates that the preceding character is pronounced with a long vowel sound; used mainly in katakana writing</s_inf>
+<gloss>long-vowel mark</gloss>

?

タバコ屋	39629	53.5%
たばこ屋	20908	28.2%
煙草屋	13603	18.3%

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
@@ -15,6 +15,0 @@
-<re_restr>タバコ屋</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>たばこや</reb>
-<re_restr>たばこ屋</re_restr>
-<re_restr>煙草屋</re_restr>
@@ -23,0 +19 @@
+<gloss>tobacco shop</gloss>

Thanks. I should have looked harder - it did seem odd.

n-grams
タバコ屋さん	435
たばこ屋さん	306
煙草屋さん	84
タバコやさん	125
たばこやさん	36
タバコ屋に	139
たばこ屋に	46
煙草屋に	62
タバコやに	1
たばこやに	5

the や giving the high kana n-grams is a particle

@@ -24 +23,0 @@
-<misc>&uk;</misc>

Sankoku and smk don't have kanji for すぐる, which suggests it's [uk]. Also, along with daijs, they define it as すぐれたものを選び出す. I think it should be split out.
I don't think the x-ref is needed.

@@ -23,4 +22,0 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>すぐる</reb>
-<re_restr>選る</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
@@ -30 +25,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1588730">選ぶ</xref>
@@ -32,0 +28 @@
+<gloss>to pick out</gloss>

Seems OK.

mk

@@ -10,0 +11,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>撰る</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -16,0 +20,2 @@
+<re_restr>選る</re_restr>
+<re_restr>撰る</re_restr>

こせんすい doesn't apply to 枯れ山水 with the れ okurigana, though.

@@ -14,0 +15 @@
+<re_restr>枯山水</re_restr>

Daijirin

Merging こせんすい from entry 2089830

@@ -11,0 +12,3 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>こせんすい</reb>

〈枯（れ）／かれ／カレ〉〈山／さん／サン〉〈水／すい／スイ〉

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 枯れ山水　　 │  1,829 │  3.2% │
│ 枯山水　　　 │ 53,946 │ 95.8% │ - move up
│ かれさんすい │    527 │  0.9% │
╰─ーーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>枯れ山水</keb>
+<keb>枯山水</keb>
@@ -8 +8 @@
-<keb>枯山水</keb>
+<keb>枯れ山水</keb>

目元	619,563	79.9%	
目もと	151,255	19.5%
目許	3,057	0.4%	
眼元	1,688	0.2%	
眼許	89	0.0%

I don't think a note is needed here. The kokugos have these meanings as one sense.

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -15 +16 @@
-<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -19 +20 @@
-<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -26 +27 @@
-<gloss>eyes</gloss>
+<gloss>the eyes</gloss>
@@ -31 +31,0 @@
-<s_inf>orig. meaning</s_inf>
@@ -33 +32,0 @@
-<gloss>skin round one's eyes</gloss>

Other entries seem to use note="orig. meaning" with a space. Updating for consistency.

@@ -31 +31 @@
-<s_inf>orig.meaning</s_inf>
+<s_inf>orig. meaning</s_inf>

iK might be overzealous for the 眼 forms

Koj, Daijr (lead with the 目のあたり sense), Gg5, etc. Ngrams.

The usual practice is to put the surface forms in order of "commonness". See http://www.edrdg.org/wiki/index.php/Editorial_policy#Kanji.2FSpecial-Character_Forms  We don't usually have a comment on which are the really common ones, or we'd have far too many such comments (almost invariably the first one or two dominate). I and other editors have access to counts drawn from the Google n-gram corpus (sorry I can't make access public). For this entry the counts are:
目元	619563
目もと	151255
目許	3057
眼元	1688
眼許	89

@@ -16,0 +17,4 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>眼許</keb>
+<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
@@ -22 +25,0 @@
-<s_inf>Usually 目元 or 目もと</s_inf>
@@ -23,0 +27,6 @@
+<gloss>expression of the eyes</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<s_inf>orig.meaning</s_inf>
+<gloss>area around the eyes</gloss>

デジタル大辞泉 shows 眼元 in its examples, even though very rare.
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/leaf/jn2/127732/m0u/

Japanese people in general agree 目元 and 目もと are the most used forms, with 目許 being encountered mainly in novels when people is wearing something around their eyes.
detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1454767124

Google hits seems to confirm.

I felt better making clear that the intended forms are "目元" and "目もと". I hope I was not wrong using a note for this goal.

@@ -7,0 +8,3 @@
+<keb>目もと</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -8,0 +12,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>眼元</keb>
+<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>
@@ -14,0 +22 @@
+<s_inf>Usually 目元 or 目もと</s_inf>

gg5, daij
子沢山の家庭	563		
子沢山な家庭	242

@@ -13,0 +14,2 @@
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
@@ -15,4 +17 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<gloss>many children</gloss>
-<gloss>large family</gloss>
+<gloss>having many children</gloss>

GG5 uses 子だくさん in an example.

eij, ngrams

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>子だくさん</keb>
@@ -11,0 +15 @@
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>

GG5, etc.

旺文社国語辞典 第十一版, デジタル大辞泉

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<misc>&col;</misc>

https://0gasawara.blogspot.com/2020/07/flash.html

idea *flash*. Might be worth adding.

アイデアラッシュ	160	11.5%
アイディアラッシュ	69	5.0%

アイデアフラッシュ	1161	83.5%
"flush" is more common?

@@ -12 +11,0 @@
-<pos>&vs;</pos>

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>アイデア・ラッシュ</reb>

Entry created

I don't think the x-ref is particularly helpful.

@@ -17 +16,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1719250">往生際・2</xref>

〈往／おう／オウ〉〈生／じょう／ジョウ〉〈際／ぎわ／ギワ〉が〈悪／わる〉い

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 往生際が悪い　 │ 21,249 │ 97.8% │
│ 往生際がわるい │    449 │  2.1% │ - add, sK
│ 往生ぎわが悪い │     30 │  0.1% │
╰─ーーーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯

@@ -5,0 +6,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>往生際がわるい</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

中辞典

Tidy-up.

@@ -12,2 +12,2 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1719250">往生際・1</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="2238470">往生際の悪い</xref>
+<pos>&adj-i;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1719250">往生際・2</xref>
@@ -14,0 +15 @@
+<gloss>being a bad loser</gloss>

Entry created

Merge into entry 1685280

Entry created

Yes, messy.

@@ -15 +15 @@
-<gloss>a (one) box</gloss>
+<gloss>one box</gloss>

Entry created

氷上の	49,365		
氷上に	17,204		
氷上で	15,070

It also functions as a noun.

@@ -12 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>on ice</gloss>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>on (the) ice</gloss>

Daijr (doesn't say it's a noun, for a change.)

@@ -11 +10,0 @@
-<pos>&n;</pos>

prog

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>on the surface of the ice</gloss>
+<gloss>on ice</gloss>

Entry created

gg5, prog, wisdom

@@ -12 +12,4 @@
-<gloss>necromancer</gloss>
+<gloss>magician</gloss>
+<gloss>sorcerer</gloss>
+<gloss>wizard</gloss>
+<gloss>witch</gloss>

Entry created

Updating x-ref to use a comma.

@@ -12 +12 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2152790">楽は苦の種苦は楽の種</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2152790">楽は苦の種、苦は楽の種</xref>

Not listed as abbr in daij, but the xref might be helpful nonetheless.

@@ -11,0 +12,2 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2152790">楽は苦の種苦は楽の種</xref>
+<misc>&proverb;</misc>

Entry created

Koj, jitenon, and kanjipedia use a comma. Daijr/s do not.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>楽は苦の種苦は楽の種</keb>
+<keb>楽は苦の種、苦は楽の種</keb>
@@ -8 +8,2 @@
-<keb>楽は苦の種、苦は楽の種</keb>
+<keb>楽は苦の種苦は楽の種</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>らくはくのたねくはらくのたね</reb>
+<reb>らくはくのたね、くはらくのたね</reb>

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>楽は苦の種、苦は楽の種</keb>
@@ -12 +15,2 @@
-<gloss>one cannot have pain without pleasure, and one cannot have pleasure without pain</gloss>
+<misc>&proverb;</misc>
+<gloss>there's no pain without pleasure, and there's no pleasure without pain</gloss>

Entry created

Not in my refs.

アイデアライズ	0	0.0%
アイディアライズ	0	0.0%

Entry created

Jitenon has this expression with a comma.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>ブルータスお前もか</keb>
+<keb>ブルータス、お前もか</keb>
@@ -8 +8,2 @@
-<keb>ブルータス、お前もか</keb>
+<keb>ブルータスお前もか</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>ブルータスおまえもか</reb>
+<reb>ブルータス、おまえもか</reb>

Drop it.

@@ -17 +16,0 @@
-<gloss>even you, Brutus?</gloss>

Does this need an English translation? It's famous as a Latin quote and is virtually always left untranslated.

jpwiki

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>ブルータス、お前もか</keb>

OK, I've set that up. I've left 1264740 for checking.

Like this entry, 1264740 (個/こ) and 2028930 (が) would also get "also written as ヶ" notes.

What about the other two senses of 2220325?

They would still be visible, just in a note instead of the readings field.
I think this is a better approach than having a separate ヶ/ケ entry because it makes it clear that ケ is not a reading.

I think ケ and ヶ should be visible, and probably having them in their own entry is best.

That sense 3 seems to be a very Japanese accounting practice (fudge?) without clear parallels with other countries.

https://biz.moneyforward.com/accounting/basic/52619/
https://megumi-kimoto-trans.blogspot.com/2019/04/what-are-and.html
洗い替え	48,159	94.8%	
洗替	2,008	4.0%	
洗替え	639	1.3%

I can't find a reference for "money laundering".
As an accounting term, it appears to have no English equivalent. "moving average method" isn't correct.

@@ -9,0 +10,4 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>洗替え</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
@@ -15,9 +19 @@
-<gloss>(money) laundering</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<gloss>moving average method of valuation</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<gloss>exchanging clothing at the time of laundering</gloss>
+<gloss>clothes worn while one's other clothes are in the wash</gloss>
@@ -27,0 +24,4 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>reversing the book value of an asset to the acquisition cost at the beginning of the next accounting period</gloss>

No idea where that "reassessing" came from. I'm replacing it with the gloss from KOD. The Kokugos tend to have the old change of clothes during laundry sense. It's in KOD too, so I'm dropping the "arch" and moving it up a bit.

@@ -23 +23 @@
-<gloss>reassessing</gloss>
+<gloss>exchanging clothing at the time of laundering</gloss>
@@ -27,2 +27 @@
-<misc>&arch;</misc>
-<gloss>exchanging clothing at the time of laundering</gloss>
+<gloss>cleaning or planing wooden furniture to revive it</gloss>

https://biz.moneyforward.com/accounting/basic/52619/ as in 洗替法

Moving arch sense down. Sense 3 is unclear to me, what does it mean?

@@ -6,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>洗替</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -10,5 +12,0 @@
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<misc>&arch;</misc>
-<gloss>exchanging clothing at the time of laundering</gloss>
-</sense>
@@ -26,0 +25,5 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&arch;</misc>
+<gloss>exchanging clothing at the time of laundering</gloss>
+</sense>

Entry created

Updating x-ref

@@ -14 +14 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2833702">指切拳万、嘘ついたら針千本呑ます</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2833702">指切りげんまん、嘘ついたら針千本飲ます</xref>

Aligning.

@@ -17 +17 @@
-<gloss>pinky swear</gloss>
+<gloss>pinky swear (i.e. linking little fingers to confirm a promise)</gloss>
@@ -19 +18,0 @@
-<gloss g_type="expl">linking little fingers to confirm a promise</gloss>

GG5 and 中辞典 only have kana.

meikyo: かな書きが一般的

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 拳万　　 │    895 │  4.0% │
│ げんまん │ 20,631 │ 92.3% │
│ ゲンマン │    825 │  3.7% │
╰─ーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯

@@ -14 +14 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2833702">指切拳万、嘘ついたら針千本呑ます・ゆびきりげんまんうそついたらはりせんぼんのます</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2833702">指切拳万、嘘ついたら針千本呑ます</xref>
@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>

Meikyo vt and vi additions to n,vs entries
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+<pos>&vi;</pos>

https://kotobank.jp/word/アイデアプロセッサ-178163
ワードプロセッサの一つ。文章を作成するうえで，内容構成のアイデアを整理し，思考を手助けする機能を重視したもの。アウトラインプロセッサともいう。
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/アウトラインプロセッサ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outliner
アウトラインプロセッサ	12,831

wasei?

@@ -9,0 +10,12 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>アイデアプロセッサー</reb>
+<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>アイディアプロセッサ</reb>
+<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>アイディアプロセッサー</reb>
+<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
@@ -11,0 +24 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2278600">アウトラインプロセッサ</xref>
@@ -13 +26,3 @@
-<gloss>idea processor</gloss>
+<lsource ls_wasei="y">idea processor</lsource>
+<gloss>outline processor</gloss>
+<gloss>outliner</gloss>

アイデアプロセッサ	2372	65.5%
アイデアプロセッサー	496	13.7%
アイディアプロセッサ	581	16.0%
アイディアプロセッサー	172	4.8%

Added additional dotted reading(s) via batch update.Added additional dotted reading(s) via batch update.
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -6,0 +6,3 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>アイデア・プロセッサ</reb>

Entry created

Removing reading from x-ref

@@ -12 +12 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2424520">去る者は追わず、来たる者は拒まず・さるものはおわずきたるものはこばまず</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2424520">去る者は追わず、来たる者は拒まず</xref>

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2424520">去る者は追わず、来たる者は拒まず・さるものはおわずきたるものはこばまず</xref>

@@ -12 +12,2 @@
-<misc>&id;</misc>
+<xref type="see" seq="2424520">去る者は追わず来たる者は拒まず</xref>
+<misc>&proverb;</misc>

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>後門の虎前門の狼</keb>
+<keb>後門の虎、前門の狼</keb>
@@ -8 +8,2 @@
-<keb>後門の虎、前門の狼</keb>
+<keb>後門の虎前門の狼</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>こうもんのとらぜんもんのおおかみ</reb>
+<reb>こうもんのとら、ぜんもんのおおかみ</reb>
@@ -15 +16 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2708140">前門の虎後門の狼</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2708140">前門の虎、後門の狼</xref>

aligning

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>後門の虎、前門の狼</keb>
@@ -12 +15 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2708140">前門の虎後門の狼・ぜんもんのとらこうもんのおおかみ</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2708140">前門の虎後門の狼</xref>
@@ -15,0 +19 @@
+<gloss g_type="lit">a tiger at the back gate, a wolf at the front gate</gloss>

Align and xef with 2708140 (more common version).

@@ -12,0 +12,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2708140">前門の虎後門の狼・ぜんもんのとらこうもんのおおかみ</xref>
@@ -13,1 +14,2 @@
-<gloss>Between the devil and the deep sea</gloss>
+<gloss>between the devil and the deep sea</gloss>
+<gloss>out of the frying pan into the fire</gloss>

Entry created

GG5: 才子, 才に倒れる． The downfall of a man of genius is his reliance on it.

I think it was a typo.

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>才子、才に溺れる</keb>
+<keb>才子、才に倒れる</keb>
@@ -8 +8 @@
-<keb>才子才に溺れる</keb>
+<keb>才子才に倒れる</keb>
@@ -12 +12 @@
-<reb>さいし、さいにおぼれる</reb>
+<reb>さいし、さいにたおれる</reb>

I wonder what the source was for this entry. All of my refs have 倒れる instead of 溺れる (Daijr/s, koj, gg5, meikyo, kanjipedia, shinsen).

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーー─┬────╮
│ 才子才に倒れる │ 52 │
│ 才子才に溺れる │  0 │
╰─ーーーーーーー─┴────╯

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>さいしさいにおぼれる</reb>
+<reb>さいし、さいにおぼれる</reb>

Add POS to proverbs
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -14,0 +15 @@
+<pos>&v1;</pos>

@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>才子、才に溺れる</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -13 +16 @@
-<gloss>A man of talent is ruined by his own talent</gloss>
+<gloss>talented men are ruined by their own talent</gloss>

Kanjipedia and jitenon have this expression with a comma. Daijr, sankoku, etc do not.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>勝てば官軍負ければ賊軍</keb>
+<keb>勝てば官軍、負ければ賊軍</keb>
@@ -8 +8,2 @@
-<keb>勝てば官軍、負ければ賊軍</keb>
+<keb>勝てば官軍負ければ賊軍</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>かてばかんぐんまければぞくぐん</reb>
+<reb>かてばかんぐん、まければぞくぐん</reb>

lit can maybe be improved

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>勝てば官軍、負ければ賊軍</keb>
@@ -15,0 +19 @@
+<gloss g_type="lit">if you win you are the loyalist army, if you lose you are the rebel army</gloss>

daij kotowaza-allguide

@@ -12,2 +12,4 @@
-<misc>&id;</misc>
-<gloss>Losers are always in the wrong</gloss>
+<misc>&proverb;</misc>
+<gloss>might is right</gloss>
+<gloss>history is written by the victors</gloss>
+<gloss>winners are always right and losers are always in the wrong</gloss>

Jitenon uses a comma. Daijirin does not.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>しょうねんよたいしをいだけ</reb>
+<reb>しょうねんよ、たいしをいだけ</reb>

I don't think it's quite a proverb. More a motto or slogan.

Also I think this fits the bill for 
[proverb] as it's a piece of 
advice/exhortation of the same type as 
"never judge a book by its cover", etc.

just "by xx" is a little confusing.

@@ -16 +16 @@
-<s_inf>by William Smith Clark</s_inf>
+<s_inf>from a speech by William Smith Clark</s_inf>

Just a quote.

@@ -16,2 +16 @@
-<misc>&proverb;</misc>
-<s_inf>quote by William Smith Clark</s_inf>
+<s_inf>by William Smith Clark</s_inf>

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>うめよふえよちにみてよ</reb>
+<reb>うめよ、ふえよ、ちにみてよ</reb>

@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>生めよ、殖えよ、地に満てよ</keb>
+</k_ele>

better without

Should maybe include "-, and subdue it" as well

Jitenon's kotowaza dictionary uses a comma. Daijr/s do not.

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>昔は昔今は今</keb>
+<keb>昔は昔、今は今</keb>
@@ -8 +8,2 @@
-<keb>昔は昔、今は今</keb>
+<keb>昔は昔今は今</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>むかしはむかしいまはいま</reb>
+<reb>むかしはむかし、いまはいま</reb>

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>昔は昔、今は今</keb>

@@ -14 +14 @@
-<gloss g_type="lit">the past is the past; the present is the present</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">the past is the past, the present is the present</gloss>

@@ -14 +14 @@
-<gloss g_type="lit">the past is the past;the present is the present</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">the past is the past; the present is the present</gloss>

@@ -12,2 +12,3 @@
-<misc>&id;</misc>
-<gloss>Let bygones be bygones</gloss>
+<misc>&proverb;</misc>
+<gloss>let bygones be bygones</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">the past is the past;the present is the present</gloss>

Daijisen has this form.

@@ -16,0 +17,4 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>大きに御世話御茶でもあがれ</keb>

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -5 +5,5 @@
-<keb>大きに御世話御茶でも上がれ</keb>
+<keb>大きにお世話、お茶でも上がれ</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>大きに御世話、御茶でも上がれ</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -8,0 +13 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11,4 +16,2 @@
-<keb>大きに御世話、御茶でも上がれ</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>大きにお世話、お茶でも上がれ</keb>
+<keb>大きに御世話御茶でも上がれ</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -17 +20 @@
-<reb>おおきにおせわおちゃでもあがれ</reb>
+<reb>おおきにおせわ、おちゃでもあがれ</reb>

Yes.

I suspect the reading element was missing an お

@@ -17 +17 @@
-<reb>おおきにせわおちゃでもあがれ</reb>
+<reb>おおきにおせわおちゃでもあがれ</reb>

Kanjipedia, jitenon, daijirin, koj, etc. use a comma with this expression.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>きくはいっときのはじきかぬはまつだいのはじ</reb>
+<reb>きくはいっときのはじ、きかぬはまつだいのはじ</reb>
@@ -15 +16 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2836571">聞くは一時の恥聞かぬは一生の恥</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2836571">聞くは一時の恥、聞かぬは一生の恥</xref>

@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>聞くは一時の恥、聞かぬは末代の恥</keb>
+</k_ele>

xref to more common variant.

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2836571">聞くは一時の恥聞かぬは一生の恥</xref>

"than not ask and never to know" does not seem grammatically correct

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>better to ask and be embarrassed than not ask and never to know</gloss>
+<gloss>better to ask and be embarrassed than not ask and never know</gloss>

Aligning the gloss with our two 問うは・・・ entries

@@ -12,2 +12,2 @@
-<misc>&id;</misc>
-<gloss>Better ask than go astray</gloss>
+<misc>&proverb;</misc>
+<gloss>better to ask and be embarrassed than not ask and never to know</gloss>

Jitenon uses a comma with this expression.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>とうはいったんのはじとわぬはまつだいのはじ</reb>
+<reb>とうはいったんのはじ、とわぬはまつだいのはじ</reb>

@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>問うは一旦の恥、問わぬは末代の恥</keb>
+</k_ele>

Aligning with Rene's edit on 聞くは一時の恥聞かぬは末代の恥

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>better to ask and be embarrassed than not ask and never to know</gloss>
+<gloss>better to ask and be embarrassed than not ask and never know</gloss>

@@ -12,2 +12,2 @@
-<misc>&id;</misc>
-<gloss>Better to ask and be embarrassed than not ask and never to know</gloss>
+<misc>&proverb;</misc>
+<gloss>better to ask and be embarrassed than not ask and never to know</gloss>

Meikyo, jitenon, daijirin, etc. use a comma with this expression.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>雄弁は銀沈黙は金</keb>
+<keb>雄弁は銀、沈黙は金</keb>
@@ -8 +8,2 @@
-<keb>雄弁は銀、沈黙は金</keb>
+<keb>雄弁は銀沈黙は金</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>ゆうべんはぎんちんもくはきん</reb>
+<reb>ゆうべんはぎん、ちんもくはきん</reb>

https://kotobank.jp/word/雄弁は銀、沈黙は金-2236459

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>雄弁は銀、沈黙は金</keb>

@@ -12,2 +12,2 @@
-<misc>&id;</misc>
-<gloss>Speech is silver, silence is golden</gloss>
+<misc>&proverb;</misc>
+<gloss>speech is silver, silence is golden</gloss>

Entry created

OK

This expression is in many of my refs, but none of them use a comma.

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーーーーー─┬────────╮
│ 旅の恥はかき捨て　　 │ 10,774 │
│ 旅の恥は掻き捨て　　 │  5,401 │
│ 旅の恥は搔き捨て　　 │      0 │ - sK
│ たびのはじはかきすて │      0 │
╰─ーーーーーーーーーー─┴────────╯

I don't think the comma version needs to be visible.

@@ -8,3 +7,0 @@
-<keb>旅の恥は、かき捨て</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
@@ -13,0 +11,4 @@
+<keb>旅の恥は、かき捨て</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -15 +16 @@
-<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

Nelson once said something like "once you pass Gibraltar, every sailor is a bachelor".

新明解５
明鏡

google
"旅の恥はかき捨て" 約 280,000 件
"旅の恥は、かき捨て" 約 277,000 件
"旅の恥は掻き捨て" 約 124,000 件 
"旅の恥は搔き捨て" 約 2,370 件

@@ -3,0 +4,6 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>旅の恥はかき捨て</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>旅の恥は、かき捨て</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8 +14,2 @@
-<keb>旅の恥はかき捨て</keb>
+<keb>旅の恥は搔き捨て</keb>
+<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>さるものはおわずきたるものはこばまず</reb>
+<reb>さるものはおわず、きたるものはこばまず</reb>

@@ -16 +16 @@
-<gloss>do not purse those who leave you and do not turn away those who come to you</gloss>
+<gloss>do not pursue those who leave you and do not turn away those who come to you</gloss>

BEtter?

@@ -16 +16 @@
-<gloss>do not chase one who leaves, do not reject one who comes</gloss>
+<gloss>do not purse those who leave you and do not turn away those who come to you</gloss>

Adding a non-comma version to assist text searching.

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>去る者は追わず来たる者は拒まず</keb>

meikyo

headword is a wreck without the comma

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>去る者は追わず来たる者は拒まず</keb>
+<keb>去る者は追わず、来たる者は拒まず</keb>

Noting that kanjipedia and jitenon have the う okurigana, but daijr/s and koj do not. Odd.

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーー─┬─────╮
│ 百戦殆からず　 │ 255 │
│ 百戦殆うからず │ 577 │
╰─ーーーーーーー─┴─────╯

Kanjipedia uses a comma in this expression, but daijr/s, koj, and jitenon do not.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>彼を知り己を知れば百戦殆からず</keb>
+<keb>彼を知り己を知れば、百戦殆からず</keb>
@@ -8 +8,2 @@
-<keb>彼を知り己を知れば、百戦殆からず</keb>
+<keb>彼を知り己を知れば百戦殆からず</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>かれをしりおのれをしればひゃくせんあやうからず</reb>
+<reb>かれをしりおのれをしれば、ひゃくせんあやうからず</reb>

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>彼を知り己を知れば、百戦殆からず</keb>

@@ -14 +14,2 @@
-<gloss>If you know your enemy and know yourself, in a hundred battles you will never be defeated</gloss>
+<gloss>if you know your enemy and know yourself, in a hundred battles you will never be defeated</gloss>
+<gloss>know your enemy</gloss>

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sun_Tzu#Misattributed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_War#Chinese

that english gloss does not derive from sun tzu (and if it did, it wouldn't correspond to this quote, which is simply the basis of the maxim "know your enemy")

@@ -14,2 +14 @@
-<gloss>keep your friends close but your enemies closer</gloss>
-<gloss g_type="lit">If you know your enemy and know yourself, in a hundred battles you will never be defeated</gloss>
+<gloss>If you know your enemy and know yourself, in a hundred battles you will never be defeated</gloss>

gg5, daij, meikyo

I don't think "crisply" is right.

@@ -20 +20 @@
-<gloss>crisply</gloss>
+<gloss>freshly</gloss>

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 冴え冴え │ 10,770 │ 97.0% │
│ 冱え冱え │      0 │  0.0% │ - rK (daijr/s, koj)
│ さえざえ │    329 │  3.0% │
╰─ーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>

Entry created

Daijirin uses a comma with this expression.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>あさやけはあめゆうやけははれ</reb>
+<reb>あさやけはあめ、ゆうやけははれ</reb>

@@ -16,2 +16,2 @@
-<gloss>Red sky at night, sailors delight; red sky in morning, sailors take warning</gloss>
-<gloss>Red sky at night, shepherds delight; red sky in morning, shepherds take warning</gloss>
+<gloss>red sky at night, sailors delight; red sky in morning, sailors take warning</gloss>
+<gloss>red sky at night, shepherds delight; red sky in morning, shepherds take warning</gloss>

Testing out a possible policy approach to commas.

@@ -6,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>朝焼けは雨夕焼けは晴れ</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8 +11 @@
-<reb>あさやけはあめ、ゆうやけははれ</reb>
+<reb>あさやけはあめゆうやけははれ</reb>

@@ -12 +12 @@
-<misc>&id;</misc>
+<misc>&proverb;</misc>

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122

Setting this up as an example of the approach developed in issue 122.

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>前門の虎後門の狼</keb>
+<keb>前門の虎、後門の狼</keb>
@@ -8 +8,2 @@
-<keb>前門の虎、後門の狼</keb>
+<keb>前門の虎後門の狼</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>ぜんもんのとらこうもんのおおかみ</reb>
+<reb>ぜんもんのとら、こうもんのおおかみ</reb>

Apologies - I didn't look hard enough at Stephen's proposal. I agree we shouldn't be using such fragments as "rK" forms, at least at this stage.

Whether or not we want to use search-only forms in this way, I don't think it's safe to do so as long as they're included with the other forms. Many sites/apps don't support the new tags yet. Some probably never will.
For the next generation of JMDict, I'd like to see search-only forms handled separately (i.e. in a different part of the XML). Then we can at least consider ideas like this.
And I agree with Marcus regarding the n-grams. The fact that both 前門の虎 and 後門の狼 have nearly identical counts suggests that they're almost always used together. Online search results appear to confirm this.

@@ -9,16 +8,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>前門の虎</keb>
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>後門の狼</keb>
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>前門のとら</keb>
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>後門のおおかみ</keb>
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

I'm not sure we should be using sK for things like this? Feels like we could be opening up a can of worms here. The reason the individual parts get more hits in the ngrams is frequently a problem with the searchability of the ngrams rather than real evidence the individual parts are frequent on their own.

Presumably dated.
Not in the JEs or smaller kokugos.

@@ -14,0 +15,3 @@
+<misc>&dated;</misc>
+<gloss>shop</gloss>
+<gloss>store</gloss>
@@ -16,2 +18,0 @@
-<gloss>merchandiser</gloss>
-<gloss>shop</gloss>
@@ -19 +19,0 @@
-<gloss>trader</gloss>

商い屋	101	5.9% <- Daijr, Koj
商屋	1605	94.1%

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>商い屋</keb>

JWN

日本語WordNet(英和), EDR日英対訳辞書, nikkoku

sounds old-ish, but maybe not really arch? (nikk example from 
１８９６)

指切り拳万 is in daijisen.

[sK] --> [rK]

@@ -12 +12 @@
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>

Aligning.

@@ -27,3 +27,2 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2833702">指切拳万、嘘ついたら針千本呑ます</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1612970">指切り</xref>
-<gloss>pinky swear</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="2833702">指切りげんまん、嘘ついたら針千本飲ます</xref>
+<gloss>pinky swear (i.e. linking little fingers to confirm a promise)</gloss>
@@ -31 +29,0 @@
-<gloss g_type="expl">making a pledge by hooking each other's little fingers</gloss>

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーーー─┬───────┬───────╮
│ 指切りげんまん　 │ 5,127 │ 28.4% │
│ 指きりげんまん　 │ 5,557 │ 30.8% │
│ 指切り拳万　　　 │   101 │  0.6% │ 🡠 adding
│ 指きり拳万　　　 │    87 │  0.5% │ 🡠 adding
│ 指切拳万　　　　 │    87 │  0.5% │ 🡠 sK
│ ゆびきりげんまん │ 7,088 │ 39.3% │
╰─ーーーーーーーー─┴───────┴───────╯

@@ -10,0 +11,8 @@
+<keb>指切り拳万</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>指きり拳万</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -11,0 +20 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -18 +27 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2833702">指切拳万、嘘ついたら針千本呑ます・ゆびきりげんまんうそついたらはりせんぼんのます</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2833702">指切拳万、嘘ついたら針千本呑ます</xref>

@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2833702">指切拳万、嘘ついたら針千本呑ます・ゆびきりげんまんうそついたらはりせんぼんのます</xref>

Daijr and koj use a comma with this expression.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>とうはいちどのはじとわぬはまつだいのはじ</reb>
+<reb>とうはいちどのはじ、とわぬはまつだいのはじ</reb>

add version without comma

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>問うは一度の恥問わぬは末代の恥</keb>

Aligning with Rene's edit on 聞くは一時の恥聞かぬは末代の恥

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>better to ask and be embarrassed than not ask and never to know</gloss>
+<gloss>better to ask and be embarrassed than not ask and never know</gloss>

Jitenon uses a comma with this expression, although daijirin and kanjipedia do not.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>桜切る馬鹿梅切らぬ馬鹿</keb>
+<keb>桜切る馬鹿、梅切らぬ馬鹿</keb>
@@ -8 +8,2 @@
-<keb>桜切る馬鹿、梅切らぬ馬鹿</keb>
+<keb>桜切る馬鹿梅切らぬ馬鹿</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>さくらきるばかうめきらぬばか</reb>
+<reb>さくらきるばか、うめきらぬばか</reb>

Not really [lit]. I don't think more than one gloss is needed for an entry like this.

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>桜切る馬鹿、梅切らぬ馬鹿</keb>
@@ -13,2 +16 @@
-<gloss>prune your plum trees, but not your cherry trees</gloss>
-<gloss g_type="lit">only an idiot prunes cherry trees and only an idiot does not prune plum trees</gloss>
+<gloss>only an idiot prunes cherry trees and only an idiot does not prune plum trees</gloss>

Maybe have both.

@@ -13 +13,2 @@
-<gloss>only an idiot prunes cherry trees and only an idiot does not prune plum trees</gloss>
+<gloss>prune your plum trees, but not your cherry trees</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">only an idiot prunes cherry trees and only an idiot does not prune plum trees</gloss>

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>prune your plum trees, but not your cherry trees</gloss>
+<gloss>only an idiot prunes cherry trees and only an idiot does not prune plum trees</gloss>

Koj, kanjipedia, and jitenon use a comma. Daijr/s and sankoku do not.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>はなはさくらぎひとはぶし</reb>
+<reb>はなはさくらぎ、ひとはぶし</reb>

OK

@@ -17 +17 @@
-<gloss>as the cherry blossom is first among flowers, so is the samurai first among men</gloss>
+<gloss>as the cherry blossom is first among flowers, so is the warrior first among men</gloss>

I might replace "samurai" with "warrior"

@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>花は桜木、人は武士</keb>
+</k_ele>

ルミナス

Read as "花は桜木、人は武士".

@@ -13,0 +14 @@
+<gloss>as the cherry blossom is first among flowers, so is the samurai first among men</gloss>

daijs and daijr via kotobank

Updating x-refs

@@ -12,2 +12,2 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1160300">井の中の蛙大海を知らず・いのなかのかわずたいかいをしらず</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="2639530">井蛙・せいあ</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1160300">井の中の蛙、大海を知らず</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2639530">井蛙</xref>

@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2639530">井蛙・せいあ</xref>

http://www.nihonjiten.com/data/599.html
http://sanabo.com/kotowaza/arc/2003/09/post_130.html
474 google hits

Daijr/s use 飲ます rather than 呑ます in their entries for variants of this expression.

The 指切拳万 form is rare and has its own entry, so it probably doesn't need to be visible here.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -8 +8,10 @@
-<keb>指切拳万、嘘ついたら針千本呑ます</keb>
+<keb>指切拳万、嘘ついたら針千本飲ます</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>指切りげんまん嘘ついたら針千本飲ます</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>指切拳万嘘ついたら針千本飲ます</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +20 @@
-<reb>ゆびきりげんまんうそついたらはりせんぼんのます</reb>
+<reb>ゆびきりげんまん、うそついたらはりせんぼんのます</reb>

8-)}

https://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/指切り拳万嘘吐いたら針千本飲ます
嘘として__縫い針__を千本飲ませるような罰

https://happy-seed0327.com/smile/porcupinefish.html
このフレーズを聞いて、この“はりせんぼん”は魚のハリセンボンか？
そう思う人もいるかもしれませんが、これは「針千本」です。

I thought the fish version made more sense, but it seems the "thousand needles" interpretation really is the standard.

Reverting back to Robin's version.

@@ -19 +19 @@
-<gloss g_type="lit">pinky promise pledge: if you're lying, I'll make you swallow a porcupinefish</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">pinky promise pledge: if you're lying, I'll make you drink a thousand needles</gloss>

I just noticed it's 飲ます (not 飲みます), so I shouldn't have changed the "make you" wording

@@ -19 +19 @@
-<gloss g_type="lit">pinky promise pledge: if I lie, I'll swallow a porcupinefish</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">pinky promise pledge: if you're lying, I'll make you swallow a porcupinefish</gloss>

Daijisen and koj use a comma with this expression, but daijirin does not.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>うめはくうともさねくうななかにてんじんねてござる</reb>
+<reb>うめはくうともさねくうな、なかにてんじんねてござる</reb>

Add POS to proverbs
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -14,0 +15 @@
+<pos>&v4r;</pos>

@@ -17 +17 @@
-<gloss g_type="lit">if you eat plum, don't eat the kernel; inside it heavenly gods sleep</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">if you eat a plum, don't eat the kernel; inside it heavenly gods sleep</gloss>

Wasn't the suggestion to do both?

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>梅は食うとも核食うな中に天神寝てござる</keb>