No takers. It may as well stay.

approved improved lit gloss. reopen for consideration of removing lit gloss altogether

Jitenon yoji: 「一期」は生まれてから死ぬまでのこと。
smk yoji:     「一期」は仏教語で、人が生まれてから死ぬまでの間の意。
Gakken yoji:  「一期」は、仏教のことばで、一生のこと。

I'm ambivalent about the usefulness of [lit] glosses in yoji entries, but I think we should try to find sources if we're going to attempt them. The yoji dictionaries usually have detailed explanations.

@@ -15 +15 @@
-<gloss g_type="lit">one time, one meeting</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">one lifetime, one meeting</gloss>

GG5

In 1324880 Robin suggests dropping "one time, one meeting".

@@ -13,0 +14 @@
+<gloss>uniquely precious experience</gloss>

@@ -21,0 +22 @@
+<xref type="ant" seq="1196060">過激</xref>

gg5, prog, luminous
穏健	78,520		
穏健な	20,146		
穏健を	157		
穏健が	33

Not a noun in daijs and meikyo.

@@ -22,5 +22,5 @@
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<gloss>quiet</gloss>
-<gloss>dependable</gloss>
-<gloss>uniform</gloss>
-<gloss>(politically) moderate</gloss>
+<gloss>moderate (view, politics, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>temperate</gloss>
+<gloss>sensible</gloss>
+<gloss>sober</gloss>
+<gloss>non-radical</gloss>

shinsen: 「温健」と書くのはあやまり。

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 穏健　　 │ 78,520 │ 99.3% │
│ 温健　　 │     90 │  0.1% │ - add, sK
│ おんけん │    480 │  0.6% │
╰─ーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯

@@ -8,0 +9,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>温健</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

gg5, prog

@@ -22 +21,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
@@ -25 +24 @@
-<gloss>coinage</gloss>
+<gloss>coin</gloss>

shinsen: 「貨弊」と書くのはあやまり。

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮
│ 貨幣　 │ 597,096 │ 99.9% │
│ 貨弊　 │     339 │  0.1% │ - add, sK
│ かへい │  17,130 │  N/A  │
╰─ーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯

@@ -8,0 +9,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>貨弊</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

All the examples seem to be for sense 1.

gg5, prog, luminous, daijr/s, nikk

I think this is better as two senses.

@@ -18 +18 @@
-<gloss>extreme</gloss>
+<gloss>extreme (measure, idea, etc.)</gloss>
@@ -19,0 +20,8 @@
+<gloss>violent (language)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>strenuous (exercise, work, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>excessive</gloss>
+<gloss>(physically) demanding</gloss>

meikyo

@@ -16,0 +17 @@
+<xref type="ant" seq="1183600">穏健</xref>

乾燥洗濯	        2,508		
ドライクリーニング	103,969

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1088480">ドライクリーニング</xref>

gg5

@@ -16 +16,2 @@
-<gloss>cold (illness)</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1583720">風邪</xref>
+<gloss>(common) cold</gloss>

shinsen: 「寒冒」と書くのはあやまり。

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 感冒　　 │ 63,197 │ 99.8% │
│ 寒冒　　 │    101 │  0.2% │ - add, sK
│ かんぼう │  4,771 │  N/A  │
╰─ーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯

@@ -5,0 +6,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>寒冒</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=感冒&dtype=0&dname=0na&stype=0&pagenum=1&index=04010800

@@ -12,1 +12,1 @@
-<gloss>cold</gloss>
+<gloss>cold (illness)</gloss>

gg5, prog, daijr/s

@@ -25,0 +26,2 @@
+<gloss>slack</gloss>
+<gloss>inactive</gloss>
@@ -30 +32,2 @@
-<gloss>lax</gloss>
+<gloss>lax (regulation, handling, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>slack</gloss>
@@ -32 +34,0 @@
-<gloss>lenient</gloss>

shinsen: 「緩漫」と書くのはあやまり。

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮
│ 緩慢　　 │ 107,239 │ 99.6% │
│ 緩漫　　 │     439 │  0.4% │ - add, sK
│ かんまん │   5,113 │  N/A  │
╰─ーーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯

@@ -8,0 +9,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>緩漫</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

GG5

For sense 2, it needs to be made clear that 三拝九拝 are the words themselves rather than a name for them.

@@ -22 +22,2 @@
-<gloss>words of deep respect written at the end of a letter</gloss>
+<s_inf>written at the end of a letter</s_inf>
+<gloss>my deepest respects</gloss>

三拝九拝	944
三跪九叩	279

I agree that the "nine prostrations" stretching it as a literal translation.

https://yoji.jitenon.jp/yojig/3140.html
  三跪九叩（さんききゅうこう）
  中国の清の敬礼の方法。三回跪（ひざまず）いて、頭を九回地面に打ち付ける礼のことをいう。

It seems the "kneelings and prostrations" come from 三跪九叩.

If I'm not mistaken, 三拝九拝 is literally "three bows and nine bows." Jitenon also offers the other interpretations that I described in a previous edit.

In any case, it doesn't look like [lit] is a good fit for this particular gloss on this entry.

@@ -17 +17 @@
-<gloss g_type="lit">three kneelings and nine prostrations</gloss>
+<gloss>three kneelings and nine prostrations</gloss>

daijr/s and koj say さいぎる is [v4r]

@@ -15,4 +14,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>さいぎる</reb>
-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>

gg5, prog, daij

@@ -15,0 +16,4 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>さいぎる</reb>
+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
@@ -20,2 +24,2 @@
-<gloss>to obstruct (e.g. a view, someone's way)</gloss>
-<gloss>to block (e.g. light, wind)</gloss>
+<gloss>to obstruct (a view, someone's way, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>to block (light, wind, etc.)</gloss>
@@ -22,0 +27 @@
+<gloss>to cut off</gloss>

I think Stephen has stated it succinctly. That literal gloss really adds nothing.

@@ -20 +19,0 @@
-<gloss g_type="lit">the weak are meat the strong do eat</gloss>

I think [lit] glosses probably only make sense when they're substantially different from the others. I.e. when an idiomatic expression means something completely different on its face from its idiomatic meaning, and when such a difference requires some supplemental explanation for the reader.

For example, 山が見える could definitely be used both figuratively or literally, so having a [lit] gloss makes a lot of sense.

For a lot of these [yoji] entries, the [lit] glosses don't add much and often sound a bit awkward.

As the arguments against its inclusion have remained undisputed, for two weeks...

@@ -19,0 +20 @@
+<gloss g_type="lit">the weak are meat the strong do eat</gloss>

Closing.

>> That's precisely my point. lit glosses are supposed to be literal translations *of the Japanese*

No.
"lit gloss"es are supposed to be literal translations.
There is no good reason to insist, that it must specifically be from Japanese. I do not, for the life of me, understand why you insist that it must be.

>> "the weak are meat the strong do eat" doesn’t even agree with 弱肉強食's part of speech.

Not entirely, no, but it's about as close as you can get, to a literal translation. (there is, pretty much, no such thing as a perfect translation. Regardless of translation type)

What you're defining as "literal translation", is not really literal translation.
It is...
I'd like to say glosses, but given how that word is used here...
I tried looking up a more specific term for it, and found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlinear_gloss
("interlinear" would seems to make it needlessly narrow, but what is described in the article perfectly reflects what I'm referring to)
...which is very different, to the concept of literal translation.

Essentially, what you are talking about, are glosses, in the proper sense of the word.
The use of "gloss", in JMDict, is not, I'd argue, strictly accurate, though I suppose it could be argued to be a wider sense of the word.
Glosses (in the narrower sense) are not translations nor definitions.
Those three are very different, though clearly related (when describing things, between languages), concepts.

>> It's not consistent with how we use lit glosses on all non-yoji entries.

Yes it is.
Just _claiming_ that they are not consistent, not/less useful, or in any other way worse, isn't evidence that they are.
You need to present some argument/evidence.

>> The same goes for translations of the component characters.

It is completely unclear, what that is supposed to mean.

>> I don't think a gloss like "one time, one meeting" is useful.

I absolutely think it is, and think that it is as useful, as any other literal translation, in JMDict.
How/why do you think that it isn't?

Nothing like Stephen Kraus' argument, was stated before, so the re-addition of the lit gloss, was still perfectly justified.
Stephen Kraus' argument is a decent argument against a lit gloss, in this instance.

I'd argue, however, that the only gloss that isn't that dissimilar to a literal gloss, is the last one.
The "the weak become the victim of the strong" one
...and I don't think that one, is really all that accurate. (it's meaning is too specific/strict/narrow, to describe the meaning of the idiom. It's closer to the literal meaning, which is more narrow, but...)
It seems more like a very contrived attempt at a gloss that is similar to the literal meaning.

Thus, it is better to just remove it.
...which leaves a situation, where a lit gloss would seem to be fully justified, by Stephen Kraus' standard.

@@ -19 +19 @@
-<gloss>the weak become the victim of the strong</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">the weak are meat the strong do eat</gloss>

I think Stephen has stated it succinctly. That literal gloss really adds nothing.

@@ -20 +19,0 @@
-<gloss g_type="lit">the weak are meat the strong do eat</gloss>

I think [lit] glosses probably only make sense when they're substantially different from the others. I.e. when an idiomatic expression means something completely different on its face from its idiomatic meaning, and when such a difference requires some supplemental explanation for the reader.

For example, 山が見える could definitely be used both figuratively or literally, so having a [lit] gloss makes a lot of sense.

For a lot of these [yoji] entries, the [lit] glosses don't add much and often sound a bit awkward.

As the arguments against its inclusion have remained undisputed, for two weeks...

@@ -19,0 +20 @@
+<gloss g_type="lit">the weak are meat the strong do eat</gloss>

I agree with the split.
We consider a kanji form "rare" if its n-gram count is <3% of the total (i.e. the counts of all surface forms summed together). rK for 集録 and 輯録 would have been correct had they stayed on this entry.
We use sK for kyujitai that aren't commonly used. Again, the threshold is 3%.

@@ -11 +11 @@
-<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

koj, daij, gg5, prog

shinmeikai has 輯録 in its entry for 収録 rather than 集録 (though it notes that the historical kana differ); whereas meikyo and daij have 輯録 together with 集録 (where the historical kana match)

splitting out 集録[rK]；輯録[rK]

1. i don't think there's anything "rare" about these headwords. 集録 = 37000 ngrams; 輯録 = 1000 ngrams

2. no dictionary merges, based on the apparent distinction that 集録 means to compile various writings into a single document, whereas 収録 simply means to record something in a document (or film/audiotape, etc.). of course it is possible that something is recorded in a compilation, but 集録 necessarily refers to a compilation, whereas 収録 doesn't.

收+錄 are both kyuji and 收錄 gets only 356 ngrams. should this be sK? oK? i'm not really sure of the difference.

@@ -10,8 +9,0 @@
-<keb>集録</keb>
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>輯録</keb>
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
@@ -19 +11 @@
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
@@ -32,3 +24 @@
-<gloss>including (e.g. in a set of complete works)</gloss>
-<gloss>containing</gloss>
-<gloss>compiling</gloss>
+<gloss>including</gloss>

輯録 is in daijs, shinmeikai, and meikyo

@@ -15 +15 @@
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>

収録	11973975	99.7%
集録	34071	0.3%
輯録	1044	0.0%
收錄	356	0.0%

@@ -15 +15 @@
-<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

chujiten
週刊誌	705,537		
週刊雑誌	3,095

Dropping x-ref.

@@ -18,2 +18 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1333470">週刊雑誌</xref>
-<gloss>weekly publication</gloss>
+<gloss>weekly (publication)</gloss>
@@ -20,0 +20 @@
+<gloss>weekly journal</gloss>

shinsen: 「週間誌」と書くのはあやまり。

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮
│ 週刊誌　　　 │ 705,537 │ 99.3% │
│ 週間誌　　　 │   3,771 │  0.5% │ - add, sK
│ しゅうかんし │   1,033 │  0.1% │
╰─ーーーーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯

@@ -6,0 +7,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>週間誌</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

we are trying to avoid x-ref to things just because they are homonyms, unless 
there is evidence of significant confusion between the two

@@ -16,2 +16,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1333480">週刊紙</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1333480">週刊紙</xref>
@@ -19,0 +17,1 @@
+<gloss>weekly magazine</gloss>

chujiten, daij

I don't think "losing control of oneself" is right.

@@ -21,3 +21,3 @@
-<gloss>being absorbed in</gloss>
-<gloss>losing oneself in</gloss>
-<gloss>losing control of oneself</gloss>
+<gloss>losing oneself (in)</gloss>
+<gloss>being absorbed (in)</gloss>
+<gloss>forgetting oneself</gloss>

shinsen: 「無我無中」と書くのはあやまり。

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮
│ 無我夢中　　 │ 108,456 │ 99.4% │
│ 無我無中　　 │     156 │  0.1% │ - add, sK
│ むがむちゅう │     457 │  0.4% │
╰─ーーーーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯

@@ -7,0 +8,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>無我無中</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -16 +19,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>

gg5
 ·突然森の中で熊に出会って無我夢中で逃げた.　Suddenly in the woods I saw a bear, and fled in a panic [ran for my life].

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 厄介払い　　　 │ 11,784 │ 87.5% │
│ やっかい払い　 │  1,166 │  8.7% │ - add
│ 厄介ばらい　　 │    161 │  1.2% │ - add, sK
│ やっかいばらい │    357 │  2.7% │
╰─ーーーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯

@@ -5,0 +6,7 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>やっかい払い</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>厄介ばらい</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

Meikyo vt and vi additions to n,vs entries
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos>

I'd wondered about such a split. Our one example sentence is for 裏面/りめん so I've changed the index.

I think りめん should be split out into a separate entry. Only the first sense is common to both readings.
I don't think the gloss for sense 1 needs examples.

@@ -10,4 +9,0 @@
-<keb>裡面</keb>
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
@@ -19 +14,0 @@
-<re_restr>裏面</re_restr>
@@ -23,3 +17,0 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>りめん</reb>
-</r_ele>
@@ -28 +20,2 @@
-<gloss>back (of a paper, etc.)</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="2858759">表面・1</xref>
+<gloss>back (side)</gloss>
@@ -32,10 +24,0 @@
-<stagr>りめん</stagr>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<gloss>inside</gloss>
-<gloss>background</gloss>
-<gloss>dark side (e.g. of society)</gloss>
-<gloss>behind the scenes</gloss>
-<gloss>beneath the surface</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<stagr>うらめん</stagr>
@@ -46 +28,0 @@
-<stagr>うらめん</stagr>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_stage
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BonusStage
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/裏面_(ゲーム)
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SecretLevel
https://screenrant.com/video-games-hidden-levels-how-to-find-tricks-tips/
https://www.thegamer.com/games-with-post-game-content-ranked/

I think 裏面 and "bonus levels" refer to different things.

@@ -49 +49,3 @@
-<gloss>bonus levels</gloss>
+<gloss>secret levels</gloss>
+<gloss>hidden levels</gloss>
+<gloss>post-game content</gloss>

I can't think of anything to add to sense 4.

gg5, luminous, daij, meikyo
繰り越しが	4,009	
繰越が	        5,540		
繰越しが	        964			
繰り越が	        0

繰越 leads in the n-grams but all the JEs use 繰り越し.

@@ -9,0 +10,3 @@
+<keb>繰越</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -13,3 +15,0 @@
-<keb>繰越</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
@@ -16,0 +17 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -25,2 +26,4 @@
-<gloss>balance brought forward (money, time, etc.)</gloss>
-<gloss>carry-over</gloss>
+<gloss>carry-over (of a balance, annual leave, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>carrying over</gloss>
+<gloss>bringing forward</gloss>
+<gloss>carrying forward</gloss>
@@ -27,0 +31,7 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1819370">繰越金</xref>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
+<gloss>balance brought forward</gloss>
+<gloss>balance carried forward</gloss>

GG5, etc.

Yes, it's a bookkeeping term.

@@ -25,2 +25,3 @@
-<gloss>balance brought forward</gloss>
-<gloss>transferred amount (of money)</gloss>
+<gloss>balance brought forward (money, time, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>carry-over</gloss>
+<gloss>transfer</gloss>

https://hcm-jinjer.com/blog/kintai/paidleave-carryover/

Not just money. Also used for days off.

@@ -26,1 +26,1 @@
-<gloss>a transferred amount (of money)</gloss>
+<gloss>transferred amount (of money)</gloss>

gg5, chujiten
蒲魚	75	0.6%	
かまとと	2,791	22.3%	
カマトト	9,657	77.1%

@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -17 +18,3 @@
-<gloss>feigning innocence, ignorance or naivety</gloss>
+<gloss>feigning ignorance</gloss>
+<gloss>feigning naivety</gloss>
+<gloss>pretense of innocence</gloss>
@@ -22 +25,2 @@
-<gloss>someone (esp. a woman) pretending to be innocent, ignorant or naive</gloss>
+<gloss>person (esp. a woman) pretending to be innocent, ignorant or naive</gloss>
+<gloss>faux-naïf</gloss>

カマトト	9657

@@ -8,0 +9,4 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>カマトト</reb>
+<re_nokanji/>

Daijr: かまぼこは魚ととから作るのかと尋ねる意からという
蒲魚	75
かまとと	2791

daij, meikyo

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<gloss>prohibition of a religion</gloss>

Possibly always 絶賛...中.
This sense is very informal.

@@ -35,0 +36 @@
+<misc>&col;</misc>
@@ -36,0 +38 @@
+<s_inf>usu. as 絶賛...中</s_inf>
@@ -39 +41 @@
-<gloss>at the moment</gloss>
+<gloss>right now</gloss>

See also the comments below by Paul Upchurch.

Sankoku has two extra adverbial senses.
  ①大好評で。「絶賛発売中」
  ②〔俗〕まさに、今。「絶賛リハーサル中」

I see Robin's comment about "rave reviews" but I think it fits the context in which this word is most often used adverbially (絶賛発売中)

@@ -26,0 +27,13 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&adv;</pos>
+<gloss>with critical acclaim</gloss>
+<gloss>to rave reviews</gloss>
+<gloss>with high commendations</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&adv;</pos>
+<misc>&joc;</misc>
+<gloss>currently</gloss>
+<gloss>presently</gloss>
+<gloss>at the moment</gloss>

https://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/7108104.html
https://www.tokyoprojuku.com/2019/01/18/絶賛/  本来、「絶賛」という言葉の意味は、「この上なくほめること」「賛美すること」（広辞苑より）。
「絶賛、○○中～」は、「只今、真っ最中」という意味を伝えるために使っているわけですが、本来の意味からすると、この使い方は相応しいとはいえないということになるのですね。

Came across "絶賛勉強中". It seems the 絶賛 is just adding intensity here. Sense 1 doesn't help at all in understanding this example.

gg5, prog
腹蔵	4,464	91.5%	
覆蔵	416	8.5%   - daijr/s, koj, nikk

Only verbs and adjectives can be in the negative.

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>覆蔵</keb>
@@ -16,2 +19,5 @@
-<s_inf>usu. in the negative as 〜なく, 〜のない, etc.</s_inf>
-<gloss>reserving one's thoughts</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="2858780">腹蔵なく</xref>
+<s_inf>usu. as 〜なく, 〜のない, etc.</s_inf>
+<gloss>concealing one's thoughts</gloss>
+<gloss>reserve</gloss>
+<gloss>reservation</gloss>

shinsen: 「腹臓」と書くのはあやまり。

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬───────┬───────╮
│ 腹蔵　　 │ 4,464 │ 98.3% │
│ 腹臓　　 │    78 │  1.7% │ - add, sK
│ ふくぞう │ 6,666 │  N/A  │
╰─ーーーー─┴───────┴───────╯

The dictionary 用例 are all followed by some form of 無い

╭─ーーーーー─┬───────╮
│ 腹蔵　　　 │ 4,464 │
│ 腹蔵なく　 │ 1,979 │
│ 腹蔵のない │   589 │
│ 腹蔵ない　 │   222 │
│ 腹蔵無く　 │   155 │
│ 腹蔵なき　 │   145 │
╰─ーーーーー─┴───────╯

@@ -5,0 +6,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>腹臓</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11,0 +16 @@
+<s_inf>usu. in the negative as 〜なく, 〜のない, etc.</s_inf>

vs doesn't make sense withthe current glosses.

@@ -12 +11,0 @@
-<pos>&vs;</pos>

daijr:       人知を超えた不思議な化け物。
jitenon:     人知を超えた怪しい化け物のこと。
gakken yoji: 常識では理解不可能な、不思議で恐ろしい化け物。
smk yoji:    人知を超えた不思議な現象を引き起こす化け物。

I don't know what "animal making a" is supposed to mean.

@@ -14 +14,3 @@
-<gloss>(animal making a) monstrous apparition</gloss>
+<gloss>monstrous apparition</gloss>
+<gloss>terrifying creature</gloss>
+<gloss>incomprehensible horror</gloss>

Kanji Haitani list

Adding yoji tagAdding yoji tag
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+<misc>&yoji;</misc>

繰越金	        40,613	97.7%	
繰り越し金	821	2.0%	
繰越し金	        115	0.3%

GG5 and prog have 繰り越し金.

@@ -9 +8,0 @@
-<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
@@ -13 +12 @@
-<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -19,0 +19 @@
+<gloss>balance brought forward</gloss>

ぱちスロ	112 <- in Koj

I think they don't say 略 for 俗 terms. That doesn't stop us from calling them that.

meikyo:〔俗〕
daijr: 俗に

The kokugos don't describe it as an abbreviation.

@@ -9,3 +9,3 @@
-<misc>&abbr;</misc>
-<s_inf>from パチンコ and スロット</s_inf>
-<gloss>slot machine in a pachinko parlor (parlour)</gloss>
+<misc>&col;</misc>
+<s_inf>from パチンコ + スロットマシン</s_inf>
+<gloss>slot machine in a pachinko parlor</gloss>

I needed to think about it.

@@ -9,0 +10 @@
+<s_inf>from パチンコ and スロット</s_inf>

@@ -12 +12 @@
-<pos>&v5r;</pos>
+<pos>&v5r-i;</pos>

gg5, luminous, wisdom

I think this is clearer.

@@ -14 +14,3 @@
-<gloss>to be common (of objects, abstract things)</gloss>
+<gloss>to be common (of things or occurrences)</gloss>
+<gloss>to be commonplace</gloss>
+<gloss>to be found everywhere</gloss>

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<pos>&v5r;</pos>
@@ -14,2 +15 @@
-<gloss>common (of objects, abstract things)</gloss>
-<gloss>usual</gloss>
+<gloss>to be common (of objects, abstract things)</gloss>

Probably should have a name entry for the Paluc company.

パルック	4926	55.5%
パルックボール	3953	44.5%
wiki
Possibly genericized?

@@ -9 +9,2 @@
-<gloss>neon light tube</gloss>
+<field>&tradem;</field>
+<gloss>fluorescent lamp</gloss>

Entry created

Thanks

I think the xrefs are worth it because while a player of mahjong might know the term dragon tiles, he might not know what they are called in japanese

https://mahjongcollege.com/term/4454/
  三元牌（読み方：サンゲンパイ）とは、白・發・中の3つの牌のことを指す麻雀用語です。
  
https://majandofu.com/mahjong-glossary-sangenpai
  三元牌とは麻雀で使用する牌の種類で、白・發・中の牌の事です。
  
https://media.jannavi.net/mahjong-sangenpai/
  三元牌とは、字牌の「白・發・中」の総称です。
  
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/麻雀牌
  三元牌は白發中の3種である。

https://riichi.wiki/Jihai#Sangenpai
  'The sangenpai 「三元牌」 (lit. three foundation tiles) are three tiles, originally representing the three Confucian values. These tiles are quite distinctive, often brightly coloured. In English, they are most often referred to as the dragons, but occasionally they are referred to as the colours.'

"dragon tiles" by itself doesn't indicate that there are only three types of tiles. I think it's helpful to address the "三" in "三元牌" at least implicitly by adding cross references.

Naming these tiles "dragons" is an entirely English-speaking / western phenomenon, so I'm not satisfied with the single gloss by itself. I think adding cross references is the easiest way to supplement it. In Japanese there actually does exist unrelated terminology derived from the word "dragon" (ドラ牌) which adds to the confusion.

Every Japanese definition for 「三元牌」 begins by listing the tiles.

@@ -15,3 +15,3 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2751420">白・4</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="2833340">発・1</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="2754230">中・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2751420">白・はく・4</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2833340">發・ハツ・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2754230">中・チュン・1</xref>

Are the xrefs needed? Anyone who plays the game knows what they are.

I think it's appropriate to display the readings here since they're not obvious or unique for the kanji

体言止め	9,777				
名詞止め	485

@@ -15 +14,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2542540">名詞止め</xref>

I agree.

@@ -16 +15,0 @@
-<s_inf>as in 新しい開発ツールの導入。</s_inf>

I don't think an example is needed . If you kbow what a noun phrase is, I'm not seeing what it is that needa explaining here.

May as well close it. Still not comfortable with the long note.

KOD: 〔短歌･俳句などの〕 a noun appearing at the end 《of a haiku》.
ルミナス: ending a Japanese sentence or a poem with a substantive
Daijr: 和歌・俳諧などで，句の最後を体言で終えること。言い切った形にしないために，余情・余韻をもたせることができる。

Rather obscure Japanese grammatical matter. Usually only applies to poetry.
For legacy reasons, we don't embed examples in glosses. Not sure the example is needed.

@@ -16 +16,2 @@
-<gloss>ending a sentence with a noun or noun phrase (e.g., 新しい開発ツールの導入。)</gloss>
+<s_inf>as in 新しい開発ツールの導入。</s_inf>
+<gloss>ending a sentence or poem with a noun or noun phrase</gloss>

https://www.fleapedia.com/五十音インデックス/え/永久保存版とは-意味/
https://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/永久保存版

I don't think that gloss is needed.

@@ -12,4 +12,3 @@
-<gloss>permanent edition</gloss>
-<gloss>timeless edition</gloss>
-<gloss>collector's version</gloss>
-<gloss>only issue of non-regularly printed magazine or mook</gloss>
+<gloss>version for permanent preservation</gloss>
+<gloss>version worth preserving forever</gloss>
+<gloss>(must-have) collector's edition</gloss>

KOD: a version for permanent preservation; a permanent collector's version.

Don't know. You put it in - I just moved it down. I'd be happy to drop it.

https://10330.co.jp/maniac-paper/
今さら聞けない「紙の目」の話　T目・Y目を簡単解説（永久保存版）

Is that last gloss overly specific? If it should be kept, should it be a separate sense?

ＫＯＤ追加語彙

@@ -14,1 +14,2 @@
-<gloss>only issue of non- regularly printed magazine or mook</gloss>
+<gloss>collector's version</gloss>
+<gloss>only issue of non-regularly printed magazine or mook</gloss>

I think that's a good idea. I've drafted an edit for the タンヤオ entry.

I think we should. In my experience it's definitely the most commonly used name among English-speaking players.

If we're going to call it a "tanyao" then that gloss should be in the actual tanyao entry.

https://riichi.wiki/Kuitan
  'Kuitan 「喰い断」 is a rule allowing open tanyao. If kuitan is disallowed, then it would be specified as "kuitan nashi", and tanyao would be restricted as a closed only yaku.'

Daina Chiba, Riichi Book 1 (page 11; https://dainachiba.github.io/RiichiBooks/)
  'Games in the first row (喰断ナシ kuitan nashi) are unusual games where open tanyao (All Simples) is not allowed; you have to have a concealed hand to claim tanyao.'

jitsuyou:
  麻雀で、チーやポン、カンなどをしてタンヤオの上がりに向かうこと。鳴きタンともいう。

wikipedia (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/断么九#クイタンのありなし)
  副露したタンヤオはクイタン（喰いタン、など）と呼ばれるが、クイタンを認めるかどうかは地域やルールによって異なっている。 

〈喰（い）／食（い）／くい／クイ〉〈断／たん／タン〉

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮
│ 喰いタン │ 110,809 │ 84.2% │
│ 食いタン │   9,978 │  7.6% │
│ 喰いたん │   1,887 │  1.4% │
│ 食いたん │     911 │  0.7% │
│ 食い断　 │     627 │  0.5% │
│ 喰い断　 │     388 │  0.3% │
│ 食たん　 │     343 │  0.3% │
│ 喰タン　 │     207 │  0.2% │
│ 食タン　 │     111 │  0.1% │
│ 喰断　　 │      80 │  0.1% │
│ 食断　　 │      39 │  0.0% │
│ 喰たん　 │      25 │  0.0% │
│ くい断　 │      20 │  0.0% │
│ クイ断　 │       0 │  0.0% │
│ クイタン │   3,018 │  2.3% │
│ くいたん │   2,648 │  2.0% │
│ くいタン │     370 │  0.3% │
│ クイたん │      72 │  0.1% │
╰─ーーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯

No need to explain what tanyao is in this entry.

Despite what the first reference says, the Japanese sources say that "Kuitan" doesn't necessarily refer to the rule itself. The rules are either 喰断アリ or 喰断ナシ, and the former is sometimes abbreviated as 喰断.

@@ -4,0 +5,18 @@
+<keb>喰いタン</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>食いタン</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>喰いたん</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>食いたん</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>食い断</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -5,0 +24,5 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>喰断</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -12 +35 @@
-<re_nokanji/>
+<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
@@ -16 +39 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2749690">断ヤオ九</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2752740">タンヤオ</xref>
@@ -18,2 +41,2 @@
-<gloss>having an open hand and no end or honor tiles (meld; not allowed in some rules)</gloss>
-<gloss>having only suited tiles between 2 and 8 inclusive and having called tiles</gloss>
+<gloss>tanyao with open melds (not allowed in some rules)</gloss>
+<gloss>open tanyao</gloss>

@@ -18 +18 @@
-<gloss>having an open hand and no end or honor tiles (yaku, not allowed in some rules)</gloss>
+<gloss>having an open hand and no end or honor tiles (meld; not allowed in some rules)</gloss>

koj, daijr/s, nikkoku

The "mahjong" sense (リャン) which has multiple kanji forms (二, 両) should be in a separate entry.

@@ -10,4 +10,6 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>リャン</reb>
-<re_nokanji/>
-</r_ele>
+<sense>
+<pos>&num;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2255310">拳・けん</xref>
+<s_inf>esp. in hand games</s_inf>
+<gloss>two</gloss>
+</sense>
@@ -16,4 +18,5 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2714640">両個・1</xref>
-<field>&mahj;</field>
-<s_inf>also in 拳・けん</s_inf>
-<gloss>two</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="2714640">両個・2</xref>
+<misc>&arch;</misc>
+<misc>&derog;</misc>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
+<gloss>samurai</gloss>

Koj

I think the majority is against keeping it.

I'd probably support its inclusion if it were from a well-known/oft-quoted verse. But as it's not, I don't think it's worth having.

野 is a productive prefix, and it's recorded as sense 3 of our entry for 野. i don't think it's needed

But if it's in (one or more commobn translations) of the Bible, isn't it worth having? It's not exactly an obscure piece of text. I think it's mildly useful.

I don't mind dropping it.

@@ -27,0 +28 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1550670">裏面・3</xref>

@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1550670">裏面・1</xref>
@@ -18,0 +20 @@
+<gloss>observe</gloss>

daijs

See comments on 裏面.

@@ -18 +18 @@
-<gloss>face (of a paper, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>front side (of a piece of paper, coin, medal, etc.)</gloss>
@@ -25,0 +26 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1550670">裏面・4</xref>
@@ -27 +28 @@
-<gloss>main part (levels) of a game (as opposed to bonus levels reachable after the game is cleared, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>main levels (as opposed to secret levels or post-game content)</gloss>

daijs
表面	6874967	99.9% but most commonly read ひょうめん
おもて面	4437	0.1%
オモテ面	5264	0.1%

Don't know how to phrase sense 3

I don't see a need for it.

粗大ゴミ	168409	  
粗大ごみ	126057
粗大化	2395
粗大な	2705

Not sure. It's a regular use of the 化 suffix. OTOH once you put aside 粗大ゴミ and 粗大ごみ its one of the main compounds of 粗大.

@@ -12 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>enlargement, the process of making something larger or coarser in size or scale</gloss>
+<gloss>enlargement</gloss>
+<gloss>making something larger or coarser</gloss>

I learned this word in my laboratory in Japan, so I have no reference

gg5, prog
腹蔵なく	1,979		
腹蔵無く	155

Most common use of 腹蔵. I think it's worth having for the glosses.

I agree.
I think [chn] is best kept for children's language, and if there enough cases to warrant it another tag created for "used by parents, ...".

@@ -21 +21 @@
-<misc>&chn;</misc>
+<s_inf>used by parents, guardians, etc.</s_inf>

I wasn't familiar with this use of the word but after reading various online discussions about it, my impression is that it's not used by children at all. I think we should indicate this in some way or another if we're tagging it as children's language. Maybe something simple like "used by parents, guardians, etc."

@@ -22 +22 @@
-<gloss>child (one doesn't know)</gloss>
+<gloss>child (one does not know)</gloss>

Closing for now.

@@ -22 +21,0 @@
-<s_inf>used when speaking to one's child or a child under one's care</s_inf>

I think [chn] should include words used by adults when speaking to children. I mean kids only say あんよ etc. because that's what their parents use those words with them. I'm sure some toddlers pick up on this to some extent too. I don't really think the note is necessary.

Sense 2 is quite tricky to explain. I don't think children use the word in this way. Is [chn] still applicable here?

@@ -5,0 +6,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>お友だち</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -18 +22,3 @@
-<gloss>child (that one does not know)</gloss>
+<s_inf>used when speaking to one's child or a child under one's care</s_inf>
+<gloss>child (one doesn't know)</gloss>
+<gloss>another child</gloss>

フェイクグリーン	12773

saw in shopw this meaning

海桐花   	112	1.1%
海桐     	1323	12.6%
トベラ   	6732	64.3%
とべら   	1593	15.2%
トベラの木	141	1.3%
扉の木   	434	4.1%
トビラノキ	108	1.0%
トビラの木	0	0.0%
とびらの木	25	0.2%
kokugos  eol

wiki and some online resources say 扉 is a valid kanji but it's not in any of thr kokugos, but several (koj etc.) use 扉の木 for the 別名 tobIranoki

@@ -21 +20,0 @@
-<misc>&uk;</misc>

海桐花   	112	1.1%
海桐     	1323	12.6%
トベラ   	6732	64.3%
とべら   	1593	15.2%
トベラの木	141	1.3%
扉の木   	434	4.1%
トビラノキ	108	1.0%
トビラの木	0	0.0%
とびらの木	25	0.2% daijs
kokugos  eol

more commonly as xref

I feel this is fine to hide even if it's above 10%

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

kokugos, gg5

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 下に出る　 │ 10,001 │ 87.8% │
│ 下にでる　 │  1,313 │ 11.5% │
│ したに出る │     37 │  0.3% │
│ したにでる │     42 │  0.4% │
├─ーーーーー─┼────────┼───────┤
│ 下手に出る │  5,832 │  N/A  │ - same meaning
╰─ーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯

gg5, luminous
集録	34,071	97.0%	
輯録	1,044	3.0%

@@ -18,0 +19 @@
+<gloss>gathering</gloss>

koj, daij, gg5, prog

splitting out of 収録, where both headwords are indicated as [rK].

see comments on 収録

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/風邪
単に風邪と言えば急性上気道炎（普通感冒）を指し
http://www.stmarysheartclinic.jp/trivia/cold/
http://yoshida-naika.net/cold.htm
普通感冒	2,419

Not in the dictionaries but it gets plenty of web hits.

I still think there's an anomaly in having this and 両/りゃん as different entries. In the case of 三/さん/サン at least サン is a recognized 音読み. That's not the case with りゃん/リャン.

I agree with Stephen's reasoning.

Just want to note quickly that this is the same reasoning discussed in the notes for entry 1461140・二【に】, which is why we have two entries for 三 despite sharing the same pronunciations.
  1579350・三【さん】
  2747950・三【サン】 [lsrc=chi:sān]


I'm also not sure if 両 should be the leading form in this entry since the vast majority of usages and words using this number seem to represent it as 二 or ２. I only see 両 used in 両面【リャンメン】 and 両嵌【リャンカン】. I moved 両 to the first position because it seemed more "correct" based upon usage in modern standard Chinese, but now I'm thinking that is probably not relevant.

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>両</keb>
+<keb>二</keb>
@@ -8 +8 @@
-<keb>二</keb>
+<keb>両</keb>

> In 2832843 you mentioned moving the mahjong sense to its own entry, but this doesn't mention it.

I wrote mahjong in scare quotes but I didn't state my point explicitly. It's not clear to me that this sense is specific to mahjong and requires a field tag. None of the other Chinese numeral entries listed in my notes below are tagged this way, although they are all (with the exception of 二【アル】) used just as frequently in mahjong vocabulary as 二【リャン】.

It seems these Chinese numerals (including this entry) may appear in Japanese in contexts other than mahjong. None of their respective kokugo entries mention mahjong. Also, the reference notes in entry 2728160 二 (アル) refer to Chinese restaurant words listed on Wikipedia. 
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/餃子の王将#王将用語
Notably, Wikipedia lists リャン as the reading for 二 in this restaurant context rather than アル.
 

> Without it the split is very odd. I'd be happier if they could be kept in the one entry.

Entry 2832843・両【りゃん】 is described in the refs (daijr/s, koj, nikk) as 唐宋音. None of those refs describe the word as 中国語, unlike all of their other Chinese numeral entries. So I don't think we would write the reading in katakana or add a [lsrc] note in that entry. I think this is enough to require a separate entry.

We also need to handle the 二 kanji form (which may actually be more common than 両 for this word). I thought it would be awkward at best to shoehorn it in there.

@@ -15 +14,0 @@
-<field>&mahj;</field>

In 2832843 you mentioned moving the mahjong sense to its own entry, but this doesn't mention it. Without it the split is very odd.
I'd be happier if they could be kept in the one entry.

@@ -14,0 +15 @@
+<field>&mahj;</field>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tite_Kubo
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/久保帯人
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/月野帯人

Looks like this might only be used as a pseudonym

@@ -11 +11 @@
-<misc>&unclass;</misc>
+<misc>&male;</misc>
@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+<gloss>Tite</gloss>

日本語総まとめN3

Brilliant application