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[n]
[abbr]
《occ. used self-referentially》 ▶ lolicon ▶ sexual attraction to prepubescent girls ▶ male pedophile ▶ male pedophilia
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29. | A 2024-10-11 01:22:21 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | The "used self-referentially" note is mainly just to try and show there's a small distinction between this word and other words that mean "pedophile." I'm not sure exactly how common it is so I'm fine with "downgrading" it to "occasionally". I also want to add I think it would be helpful if you didn't just state "It is like X, not like Y" but instead attempted to show examples or sources proving your point, esp. as you're contributing anonymously and can't refer to any proven track record (even though I'm guessing you are "parfait8566" on github and quite involved in contributing to the project. On that note, please consider contributing here as well with a handle). If there's going to be a 2nd sense, I would like to see a much better source than English Wikipedia for it. The Japanese dictionaries don't have this sense. I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong but I think we too can live without it. |
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Diff: | @@ -11 +11 @@ -<s_inf>oft. used self-referentially</s_inf> +<s_inf>occ. used self-referentially</s_inf> @@ -16,4 +15,0 @@ -</sense> -<sense> -<pos>&n;</pos> -<gloss>genre of fictional media which focuses on young or young-looking female characters, particularly in a sexually suggestive or erotic manner</gloss> |
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28. | A* 2024-10-11 00:48:53 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Adding the suggested second sense. Re the comments on the note on sense 1, I am happy to leave it there, especially if Marcus doesn't want it changed. |
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Diff: | @@ -15,0 +16,4 @@ +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<gloss>genre of fictional media which focuses on young or young-looking female characters, particularly in a sexually suggestive or erotic manner</gloss> |
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27. | A* 2024-10-07 23:10:15 | |
Comments: | i noticed the english wikipedia has this: "In Japanese popular culture, lolicon (ロリコン, rorikon) is a genre of fictional media which focuses on young (or young-looking) girl characters, particularly in a sexually suggestive or erotic manner. The term, a portmanteau of the English-language phrase "Lolita complex", also refers to desire and affection for such characters (ロリ, "loli"), and their fans. " maybe useful as a second sense? |
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26. | A* 2024-10-07 23:01:45 | |
Comments: | i don't think the note is needed or true (sometimes at most, def not "often") |
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25. | A 2023-10-22 20:43:50 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Agree. |
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[n]
{anatomy}
▶ throat |
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[n]
▶ vital passage ▶ key position
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2. | A 2023-10-12 10:18:06 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | gg5, prog |
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Comments: | I don't think the x-refs on sense 1 are needed. |
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Diff: | @@ -12,4 +12,2 @@ -<pos>&adj-no;</pos> -<xref type="see" seq="1168600">咽頭</xref> -<xref type="see" seq="1277370">喉頭</xref> -<gloss>{med} throat</gloss> +<field>&anat;</field> +<gloss>throat</gloss> @@ -20 +18,2 @@ -<gloss>{form} vital passage</gloss> +<gloss>vital passage</gloss> +<gloss>key position</gloss> |
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1. | A* 2023-10-11 17:08:33 | |
Refs: | sankoku, daijr/s, gg5 |
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Diff: | @@ -13 +13,8 @@ -<gloss>throat</gloss> +<xref type="see" seq="1168600">咽頭</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="1277370">喉頭</xref> +<gloss>{med} throat</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<xref type="see" seq="2859012">咽喉を扼する</xref> +<gloss>{form} vital passage</gloss> |
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[adv]
[uk]
▶ purposely (of something needless, unexpected or seemingly counterproductive, etc.) ▶ daringly (doing something) ▶ deliberately ▶ intentionally |
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2. |
[adv]
[uk]
《used with neg. verb》 ▶ not necessarily ▶ not particularly ▶ not especially |
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3. |
[adv]
[uk,arch]
《used with neg. verb》 ▶ definitely not |
5. | A 2023-10-11 08:25:34 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
4. | A* 2023-10-11 00:15:00 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーー─┬───────────┬───────╮ │ 敢えて │ 927,213 │ 19.7% │ │ 敢て │ 22,643 │ 0.5% │ - [io] to [sK] │ あえて │ 3,745,002 │ 79.8% │ ├─ーーーー─┼───────────┼───────┤ │ を敢えて │ 80,324 │ 23.2% │ │ を敢て │ 2,984 │ 0.9% │ │ をあえて │ 262,553 │ 75.9% │ ╰─ーーーー─┴───────────┴───────╯ |
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Diff: | @@ -10 +10 @@ -<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> |
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3. | A 2014-10-09 11:39:48 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | There are 21 example sentences for あえて and many of them use "dare", so it's a pity to lose it entirely from the glosses. |
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Diff: | @@ -19,0 +20 @@ +<gloss>daringly (doing something)</gloss> |
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2. | A* 2014-10-09 06:12:55 Marcus Richert | |
Refs: | daij etc. |
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Diff: | @@ -19,3 +19,3 @@ -<gloss>dare (to do something)</gloss> -<gloss>venture (often overcoming reluctance, or in the face of probable failure)</gloss> -<gloss>take upon oneself</gloss> +<gloss>purposely (of something needless, unexpected or seemingly counterproductive, etc.)</gloss> +<gloss>deliberately</gloss> +<gloss>intentionally</gloss> @@ -27 +27 @@ -<gloss>there is no need to</gloss> +<gloss>not necessarily</gloss> @@ -29 +29 @@ -<gloss>not really</gloss> +<gloss>not especially</gloss> |
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1. | A* 2014-10-09 04:20:45 Not Meiryo-Name <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | djr; djs; prog3e; kenkyu中 |
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Comments: | split the original sense (1) into senses (1) and (2). Sense (3) is only found in djr/djs with example sentences from classical text - I guess it might be an archaic sense. |
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Diff: | @@ -22,5 +22,15 @@ -<gloss>challenge</gloss> -<gloss>presume</gloss> -<gloss>(there is no) need to</gloss> -<gloss>(don't) go as far as</gloss> -<gloss>definitely (not)</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&adv;</pos> +<misc>&uk;</misc> +<s_inf>used with neg. verb</s_inf> +<gloss>there is no need to</gloss> +<gloss>not particularly</gloss> +<gloss>not really</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&adv;</pos> +<misc>&uk;</misc> +<misc>&arch;</misc> +<s_inf>used with neg. verb</s_inf> +<gloss>definitely not</gloss> |
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[n,vs,vi]
▶ self-control ▶ self-mastery ▶ self-restraint ▶ self-denial |
5. | A 2023-10-11 23:59:32 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | All the JEs have "self-denial" and all the EJs I checked have 克己 for "self-denial". I think it's fine. The definitions are similar. Dropping the freq tags. |
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Diff: | @@ -6,2 +5,0 @@ -<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri> -<ke_pri>nf18</ke_pri> @@ -11,2 +8,0 @@ -<re_pri>news1</re_pri> -<re_pri>nf18</re_pri> @@ -20,0 +17 @@ +<gloss>self-denial</gloss> |
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4. | A 2023-10-09 12:16:44 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | GG5, etc. |
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Diff: | @@ -19,0 +20 @@ +<gloss>self-restraint</gloss> |
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3. | A* 2023-10-09 09:52:15 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 克己 156954 <--- not actually that big of a number to begin with. Often part of a full name 克己の 16746 克己さん 15177 <-name 克己氏 9344 <-name 克己君 3115 <-name 克己心 6472 <- this is its own entry reverso returns: Katsumi (name) :64 self control: 0 self denial: 0 self mastery: 1, as: セルフマスタリー(克己) self-mastery might not be a bad gloss, but it's hard to confirm that. I doubt "self-denial" is the intention of the school motto. Related to 自制 (eijiro's gloss for self-mastery), but the terms are related: https://reibuncnt.jp/26141#toc2 and: https://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=克己 克己心がある be master of oneself Wikipedia page on the xref for self-denial, 自己否定, uses this term as part of a definition/explanation: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/自己否定 自己否定とは、我慢し、自粛し、克己することであり[3]、自分以外の存在のために自分の楽しみや欲望、利益をあきらめる自己犠牲・献身であり、自分以外の存在のために試練を受け、辛い目にあったりすることである[9]。 google glosses as "Self-denial means patience, self-restraint, and self-mastery" |
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Comments: | Recommend removing stats([news1] at least). This shows up as "common", but this appears to be a common only as a name(hence news1). Google results are names. News results are names, plus some 克己心 sprinkled in. Book results are books whose author's name includes "克己". I don't think this is [adj-no]. One high の ngram is "克己のお気楽な日々 1356". But google reveals a longer phrase: "川口克己のお気楽な日々"/. Other (rare) uses are more like "pertaining to...". I think "self-mastery" might be a better gloss(see some refs). "self-denial", in English, has a nuance of altruism (denial of one's self for the benefit of others) that I don't think applies here. Even though this is about "denying one's own desires for one's own betterment" (which is the definition self-mastery). self-mastery is probably better for the high school slogan too, or at least "self-discipline/self-control". |
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Diff: | @@ -18,3 +18,2 @@ -<pos>&adj-no;</pos> -<gloss>self denial</gloss> -<gloss>self control</gloss> +<gloss>self-control</gloss> +<gloss>self-mastery</gloss> |
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2. | A 2022-01-22 01:32:29 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Correct POS order -*- via bulkupd.py -*- |
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Diff: | @@ -16,0 +17 @@ +<pos>&vi;</pos> @@ -18 +18,0 @@ -<pos>&vi;</pos> |
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1. | A 2021-11-18 00:49:56 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Meikyo vt and vi additions to n,vs entries -*- via bulkupd.py -*- |
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Diff: | @@ -17,0 +18 @@ +<pos>&vi;</pos> |
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[adv]
[uk]
▶ exceedingly ▶ extremely ▶ exceptionally ▶ unusually |
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2. |
[adv]
[uk]
▶ unexpectedly |
7. | A 2023-10-12 20:35:05 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | This has a "副" PoS in all the kokugos. We don't use exp for such terms. |
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Diff: | @@ -47 +46,0 @@ -<pos>&exp;</pos> @@ -56 +54,0 @@ -<pos>&exp;</pos> |
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6. | A 2023-10-12 06:26:12 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Diff: | @@ -46,0 +47 @@ +<pos>&exp;</pos> @@ -54,0 +56 @@ +<pos>&exp;</pos> |
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5. | A* 2023-10-11 18:27:16 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 〈こと/殊/事/コト〉(の)〈他/外/ほか/ホカ〉 Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮ │ 殊の外 │ 10,779 │ 7.0% │ │ ことの他 │ 22,653 │ 14.6% │ - iK (to show that 他 usage is irregular) │ 事のほか │ 4,167 │ 2.7% │ - iK (to show that 事 usage is irregular) │ 事の他 │ 7,208 │ 4.7% │ - (already sK) │ 事の外 │ 2,492 │ 1.6% │ - add, sK │ 殊の他 │ 357 │ 0.2% │ - sK │ 殊のほか │ 6,770 │ 4.4% │ - sK │ ことの外 │ 2,556 │ 1.6% │ - sK │ 事外 │ 607 │ 0.4% │ - (already sK) │ 殊外 │ 183 │ 0.1% │ - (already sK) │ 事他 │ 3,761 │ 2.4% │ │ コトの他 │ 224 │ 0.1% │ │ コトの外 │ 69 │ 0.0% │ │ ことのほか │ 92,936 │ 60.0% │ │ コトのほか │ 217 │ 0.1% │ ╰─ーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯ |
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Comments: | Just to be clear, the previous edit wasn't made by me posting anonymously. My script for producing N-gram tables is free for anyone to use https://github.com/stephenmk/edrdg-scripts |
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Diff: | @@ -7,0 +8,16 @@ +<keb>ことの他</keb> +<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>事のほか</keb> +<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>事の他</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>事の外</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> @@ -8,0 +25 @@ +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> @@ -12,3 +28,0 @@ -</k_ele> -<k_ele> -<keb>殊外</keb> @@ -18 +32,2 @@ -<keb>事のほか</keb> +<keb>ことの外</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> @@ -25,4 +40,2 @@ -<keb>ことの外</keb> -</k_ele> -<k_ele> -<keb>ことの他</keb> +<keb>殊外</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> |
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4. | A* 2023-10-11 17:40:22 | |
Refs: | https://kotobank.jp/word/事外・殊外-2039430 Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮ │ 殊の外 │ 10,779 │ 22.4% │ │ 殊の他 │ 357 │ 0.7% │ │ 殊のほか │ 6,770 │ 14.1% │ │ ことの外 │ 2,556 │ 5.3% │ │ ことの他 │ 22,653 │ 47.1% │ │ 事のほか │ 4,167 │ 8.7% │ │ 事外 │ 607 │ 1.3% │ │ 殊外 │ 183 │ 0.4% │ ╰─ーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯ |
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Diff: | @@ -11,0 +12,11 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>殊外</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>事のほか</keb> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>事外</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> |
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3. | A 2014-11-18 06:18:42 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Yes, I'm not convinced ことの他 should really be there. |
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[v5r,vi]
▶ to rise ▶ to go up ▶ to come up ▶ to ascend ▶ to be raised
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2. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to enter (esp. from outdoors) ▶ to come in ▶ to go in |
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3. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to enter (a school) ▶ to advance to the next grade |
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4. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to get out (of water) ▶ to come ashore |
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[v5r,vi]
《occ. 騰る in ref. to price》 ▶ to increase |
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6. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to improve ▶ to make progress |
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[v5r,vi]
▶ to be promoted ▶ to advance |
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8. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to be made (of profit, etc.) |
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9. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to occur (esp. of a favourable result) |
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10. |
[v5r,vi]
《often as 〜で上がる》 ▶ to be adequate (to cover expenses, etc.) |
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11. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to be finished ▶ to be done ▶ to be over
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12. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to stop (of rain) ▶ to lift |
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13. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to stop (working properly) ▶ to cut out ▶ to give out ▶ to die
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[v5r,vi]
▶ to win (in a card game, etc.)
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15. |
(挙がる only)
[v5r,vi]
▶ to be arrested |
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(挙がる only)
[v5r,vi]
▶ to turn up (of evidence, etc.) |
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(揚がる only)
[v5r,vi]
▶ to be deep fried |
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18. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to be spoken loudly |
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[v5r,vi]
《esp. アガる》 ▶ to get nervous ▶ to get stage fright |
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20. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to be offered (to the gods, etc.) |
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[v5r,vi]
[hum]
▶ to go ▶ to visit |
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[v5r,vi]
[hon]
▶ to eat ▶ to drink |
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[v5r,vi]
《esp. 挙がる》 ▶ to be listed (as a candidate) |
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24. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to serve (in one's master's home) |
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25. |
[suf,v5r]
《after the -masu stem of a verb》 ▶ to be complete ▶ to finish
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[exp]
《as ~上ル; in the Kyoto address system》 ▶ above ▶ north of
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24. | A 2025-01-11 06:17:26 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | This all seems reasonable. I'm travelling with just a tablet so I'd rather not tackle such an edit at the moment. I'll approve it as-is, and reopen for later attention. |
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23. | A* 2024-12-24 11:12:39 Sombrero1 <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | Senses that are unique to each of the three non-main kanji forms: 【揚(が)る】 Shinsen: 1. to be up high in the air; to be hoisted up high (also sometimes 上がる) 2. (e.g. of a voice or a sound) to be loudly emitted 3. to be deep fried Prog: 1. to be up high in the air; to be hoisted up high 2. to be deep fried 3. to rise; to swell; to become strong (e.g. どっと笑い声が揚がった) 4. to come ashore; to land somewhere Meikyo: 1. to be deep fried Daijr: 1. to be washed ashore; to come ashore 2. to be deep fried 3. to come in; to arrive at (of a customer to a brothel or entertainment hall) Daijs: 1. to come in; to arrive at (of a customer to a brothel or entertainment hall) 【挙(が)る】 Shinsen: 1. to be arrested Prog: 1. to be shown or displayed 2. to be arrested Smk: 1. to turn up (of evidence or information relevant or fitting to a given situation) Meikyo: 1. to be clearly displayed or prominenyly shown (of a name, matter etc.) 2. to be arrested Iwakoku: 1. to become known; to turn up (of information Gendai: 1. to elevate or rise (of a voice or of temperature) Daijr: 1. to be arrested 2. to turn up (of evidence) 3. to be gossiped about (of a candidate for something etc.); to be publicly shown; to appear listed in a table (of one's name) 4. to be raised loudly (of a voice) 【騰がる】 Smk: 1. to increase (of prices and costs in particular) Meikyo (1. to increase (of prices and costs in particular; also 上がる)) ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー Senses to which two kanji forms apply: Meikyo only for now (because of the especially clear distinctions made in their entry): 1. to rise; to ascend; to come up 〔上・揚〕 2. to be up high in the air; to be hoisted up high 〔上・揚〕 3. to be moved to a higher position (of something that's been lifted or hoisted to a certain position)〔上・揚〕 4. to raise or move a bodypart up high (e.g. one's fist in rage) 〔上・挙〕 5. to be washed ashore; to come on land (from underwater) 〔上・揚〕 6. to be dragged up onto land from the depths of the sea; to bring one's fishing haul to land 〔上・揚〕 7. to enter into, and amuse oneself in the red light district 〔上・揚〕(「〈登楼〉る」とも当てる。, 0 hits) 8. to increase (of price or income)〔上・騰〕 9. to clearly stand out (of a favourable outcome)〔上・挙〕 10. to float atop; to rise to the top of the water (of a corpse only) 11. to arise vigorously (of voices or feelings); to well up (わきあがる)〔上・挙〕 ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー Notes: - Daijr gives the general sense of "to stop falling (of snow or rain)" and says it's occasionally written as 霽る - [22][v5r,vi][hon] is [vt] in shinsen to eat; to drink - 騰がる is not unique enough to deserve it's own entry in my opinion, I think it can stay as [rK] and in the sense notes ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー How oukoku distinguishes the senses: 上がる is used to indicate movement to a higher position compared to before, as in expressions like "one's status rises" (地位が上がる), "prices go up" (物価が上がる), "leap up" (飛び上がる), or "be the first to finish in sugoroku" (すごろくで一番に上がる). 騰がる, originally referring to the act of a horse leaping or jumping up, is now used in contexts such as "prices rising" (値が騰がる). 挙がる conveys the meaning of being lifted to become clearly visible or being entirely brought forth, as in "a candidate's name being raised" (候補者の名前が挙がる) or "evidence being brought forward" (証拠が挙がる). 揚がる is used in the sense of being positioned high in the air or floating upwards, as in "a national flag being hoisted" (国旗が揚がる) or "tempura being fried" (天ぷらが揚がる). ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー |
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Comments: | Apologies, I was just going off a note there on 騰がる, should've checked further. I reverted the note. Anyway this is quite the headache, I tried to compile a somewhat comprehensible overview, based on several dictionaries that had at least 3 of the four kanji forms. Of course this shouldn't be taken at face value since this entry is so large, but It should help in some way. By the current grasp I have of this, I feel like 騰がる can stay as I said in the notes. But 挙がる and 揚がる could be split out with their unique senses, AND the senses that apply to one of these two and the main 上がる could be listed in both respective entries. E.g. "4. to raise or move a bodypart up high (e.g. one's fist in rage) 〔上・挙〕" would then be in both seperate entries. Because it seems that there are also (somewhat many) senses that only apply to 上がる in multiple kokugos (which I didn't put into this overview for now). Lastly: Merry Christmas! |
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Diff: | @@ -78 +78 @@ -<s_inf>often 騰る in ref. to price</s_inf> +<s_inf>occ. 騰る in ref. to price</s_inf> |
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22. | A* 2024-12-24 07:34:24 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 値段が上がって 27456 99.7% 値段が騰がって 89 0.3% |
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Comments: | "oft. 騰がる..." isn't correct. |
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21. | A* 2024-12-24 00:35:59 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Reopening. |
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20. | A 2024-12-24 00:35:30 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | A fair question. This term is a horror, especially when it comes to handling things like senses 15, 16 and 17. Some JEs have separate entries for them. I'll approve it and reopen for a while in case we want to consider alternatives. |
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[v5r,vi]
▶ to rise ▶ to go up ▶ to come up ▶ to ascend ▶ to be raised
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2. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to enter (esp. from outdoors) ▶ to come in ▶ to go in |
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[v5r,vi]
▶ to enter (a school) ▶ to advance to the next grade |
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[v5r,vi]
▶ to get out (of water) ▶ to come ashore |
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[v5r,vi]
《occ. 騰る in ref. to price》 ▶ to increase |
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6. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to improve ▶ to make progress |
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7. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to be promoted ▶ to advance |
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8. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to be made (of profit, etc.) |
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9. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to occur (esp. of a favourable result) |
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10. |
[v5r,vi]
《often as 〜で上がる》 ▶ to be adequate (to cover expenses, etc.) |
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11. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to be finished ▶ to be done ▶ to be over
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12. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to stop (of rain) ▶ to lift |
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13. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to stop (working properly) ▶ to cut out ▶ to give out ▶ to die
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14. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to win (in a card game, etc.)
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15. |
(挙がる only)
[v5r,vi]
▶ to be arrested |
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16. |
(挙がる only)
[v5r,vi]
▶ to turn up (of evidence, etc.) |
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(揚がる only)
[v5r,vi]
▶ to be deep fried |
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18. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to be spoken loudly |
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19. |
[v5r,vi]
《esp. アガる》 ▶ to get nervous ▶ to get stage fright |
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20. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to be offered (to the gods, etc.) |
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21. |
[v5r,vi]
[hum]
▶ to go ▶ to visit |
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22. |
[v5r,vi]
[hon]
▶ to eat ▶ to drink |
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23. |
[v5r,vi]
《esp. 挙がる》 ▶ to be listed (as a candidate) |
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24. |
[v5r,vi]
▶ to serve (in one's master's home) |
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25. |
[suf,v5r]
《after the -masu stem of a verb》 ▶ to be complete ▶ to finish
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[exp]
《as ~上ル; in the Kyoto address system》 ▶ above ▶ north of
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25. | A* 2025-01-11 06:17:53 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
24. | A 2025-01-11 06:17:26 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | This all seems reasonable. I'm travelling with just a tablet so I'd rather not tackle such an edit at the moment. I'll approve it as-is, and reopen for later attention. |
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23. | A* 2024-12-24 11:12:39 Sombrero1 <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | Senses that are unique to each of the three non-main kanji forms: 【揚(が)る】 Shinsen: 1. to be up high in the air; to be hoisted up high (also sometimes 上がる) 2. (e.g. of a voice or a sound) to be loudly emitted 3. to be deep fried Prog: 1. to be up high in the air; to be hoisted up high 2. to be deep fried 3. to rise; to swell; to become strong (e.g. どっと笑い声が揚がった) 4. to come ashore; to land somewhere Meikyo: 1. to be deep fried Daijr: 1. to be washed ashore; to come ashore 2. to be deep fried 3. to come in; to arrive at (of a customer to a brothel or entertainment hall) Daijs: 1. to come in; to arrive at (of a customer to a brothel or entertainment hall) 【挙(が)る】 Shinsen: 1. to be arrested Prog: 1. to be shown or displayed 2. to be arrested Smk: 1. to turn up (of evidence or information relevant or fitting to a given situation) Meikyo: 1. to be clearly displayed or prominenyly shown (of a name, matter etc.) 2. to be arrested Iwakoku: 1. to become known; to turn up (of information Gendai: 1. to elevate or rise (of a voice or of temperature) Daijr: 1. to be arrested 2. to turn up (of evidence) 3. to be gossiped about (of a candidate for something etc.); to be publicly shown; to appear listed in a table (of one's name) 4. to be raised loudly (of a voice) 【騰がる】 Smk: 1. to increase (of prices and costs in particular) Meikyo (1. to increase (of prices and costs in particular; also 上がる)) ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー Senses to which two kanji forms apply: Meikyo only for now (because of the especially clear distinctions made in their entry): 1. to rise; to ascend; to come up 〔上・揚〕 2. to be up high in the air; to be hoisted up high 〔上・揚〕 3. to be moved to a higher position (of something that's been lifted or hoisted to a certain position)〔上・揚〕 4. to raise or move a bodypart up high (e.g. one's fist in rage) 〔上・挙〕 5. to be washed ashore; to come on land (from underwater) 〔上・揚〕 6. to be dragged up onto land from the depths of the sea; to bring one's fishing haul to land 〔上・揚〕 7. to enter into, and amuse oneself in the red light district 〔上・揚〕(「〈登楼〉る」とも当てる。, 0 hits) 8. to increase (of price or income)〔上・騰〕 9. to clearly stand out (of a favourable outcome)〔上・挙〕 10. to float atop; to rise to the top of the water (of a corpse only) 11. to arise vigorously (of voices or feelings); to well up (わきあがる)〔上・挙〕 ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー Notes: - Daijr gives the general sense of "to stop falling (of snow or rain)" and says it's occasionally written as 霽る - [22][v5r,vi][hon] is [vt] in shinsen to eat; to drink - 騰がる is not unique enough to deserve it's own entry in my opinion, I think it can stay as [rK] and in the sense notes ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー How oukoku distinguishes the senses: 上がる is used to indicate movement to a higher position compared to before, as in expressions like "one's status rises" (地位が上がる), "prices go up" (物価が上がる), "leap up" (飛び上がる), or "be the first to finish in sugoroku" (すごろくで一番に上がる). 騰がる, originally referring to the act of a horse leaping or jumping up, is now used in contexts such as "prices rising" (値が騰がる). 挙がる conveys the meaning of being lifted to become clearly visible or being entirely brought forth, as in "a candidate's name being raised" (候補者の名前が挙がる) or "evidence being brought forward" (証拠が挙がる). 揚がる is used in the sense of being positioned high in the air or floating upwards, as in "a national flag being hoisted" (国旗が揚がる) or "tempura being fried" (天ぷらが揚がる). ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー |
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Comments: | Apologies, I was just going off a note there on 騰がる, should've checked further. I reverted the note. Anyway this is quite the headache, I tried to compile a somewhat comprehensible overview, based on several dictionaries that had at least 3 of the four kanji forms. Of course this shouldn't be taken at face value since this entry is so large, but It should help in some way. By the current grasp I have of this, I feel like 騰がる can stay as I said in the notes. But 挙がる and 揚がる could be split out with their unique senses, AND the senses that apply to one of these two and the main 上がる could be listed in both respective entries. E.g. "4. to raise or move a bodypart up high (e.g. one's fist in rage) 〔上・挙〕" would then be in both seperate entries. Because it seems that there are also (somewhat many) senses that only apply to 上がる in multiple kokugos (which I didn't put into this overview for now). Lastly: Merry Christmas! |
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Diff: | @@ -78 +78 @@ -<s_inf>often 騰る in ref. to price</s_inf> +<s_inf>occ. 騰る in ref. to price</s_inf> |
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22. | A* 2024-12-24 07:34:24 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 値段が上がって 27456 99.7% 値段が騰がって 89 0.3% |
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Comments: | "oft. 騰がる..." isn't correct. |
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21. | A* 2024-12-24 00:35:59 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Reopening. |
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[n]
▶ passing each other (without meeting) ▶ entering somewhere just after someone had left ▶ coming in just as someone had gone out
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2. |
[n]
▶ inserting in the wrong order |
2. | A 2023-10-11 00:18:24 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | gg5, daij |
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Comments: | Added sense. |
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Diff: | @@ -12,2 +12,7 @@ -<gloss>passing each other without meeting</gloss> -<gloss>one leaving just before someone else comes in</gloss> +<gloss>passing each other (without meeting)</gloss> +<gloss>entering somewhere just after someone had left</gloss> +<gloss>coming in just as someone had gone out</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<gloss>inserting in the wrong order</gloss> |
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1. | A* 2023-10-09 16:23:25 | |
Refs: | dzijisen |
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Diff: | @@ -12 +12,2 @@ -<gloss>passing each other</gloss> +<gloss>passing each other without meeting</gloss> +<gloss>one leaving just before someone else comes in</gloss> |
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[n]
[uk]
▶ rag ▶ old cloth |
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2. |
[n]
[uk]
▶ tattered clothes ▶ ragged clothes ▶ rags
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3. |
[n]
[uk]
▶ fault (one is trying to hide) ▶ defect ▶ weakness |
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4. |
[adj-f,adj-na]
[uk]
▶ worn-out ▶ run-down ▶ shabby ▶ ragged ▶ tattered |
14. | A 2023-10-19 22:03:17 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Done. |
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13. | A* 2023-10-13 22:35:49 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
12. | A 2023-10-13 22:35:30 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I'll approve and reopen. I need to reindex a sentence when tatoeba is back. |
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11. | A* 2023-10-13 18:34:42 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | daij, meikyo, gg5, prog, luminous |
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Comments: | Splitting sense 1. らんる only has the first two meanings. It's also marked as〔文〕in meikyo and sankoku. I'll split it out into a separate entry. We wouldn't usually put adj-f and adj-na together but I think it's appropriate here. Daijr has a 形動 sense but it typically appears directly before the noun. Sankoku has a "造語成分" sense for this usage. We don't typically use the gikun tag when the entry only has one reading but maybe we should. This is a discussion for GitHub but it might be better if [gikun] went on the kanji, not the reading, so that we're more like the kokugos. We would no longer be able to merge gikun/jukujikun readings with other readings but I think I prefer that approach. |
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Diff: | @@ -12,3 +11,0 @@ -<reb>らんる</reb> -</r_ele> -<r_ele> @@ -20 +16,0 @@ -<pos>&pref;</pos> @@ -23,2 +19 @@ -<gloss>scrap</gloss> -<gloss>tattered clothes</gloss> +<gloss>old cloth</gloss> @@ -28 +22,0 @@ -<pos>&pref;</pos> @@ -30,2 +24,3 @@ -<gloss>fault (esp. in a pretense, pretence)</gloss> -<gloss>defect</gloss> +<gloss>tattered clothes</gloss> +<gloss>ragged clothes</gloss> +<gloss>rags</gloss> @@ -33,0 +29,8 @@ +<pos>&n;</pos> +<misc>&uk;</misc> +<gloss>fault (one is trying to hide)</gloss> +<gloss>defect</gloss> +<gloss>weakness</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&adj-f;</pos> @@ -35,0 +39 @@ +<gloss>worn-out</gloss> @@ -38 +42,2 @@ -<gloss>junky</gloss> +<gloss>ragged</gloss> +<gloss>tattered</gloss> |
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10. | A 2023-10-11 08:26:03 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
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[n]
{food, cooking}
▶ sushi ▶ [expl] range of dishes made with vinegared rice combined with fish, vegetables, egg, etc.
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6. | A 2023-11-26 23:04:51 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 壽司 3,273 壽し 2,141 |
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Comments: | Adding kyūjitai forms |
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Diff: | @@ -19,0 +20,8 @@ +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>壽司</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>壽し</keb> |
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5. | A 2023-10-16 23:41:00 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 巻き寿司 271065 3.2% 寿司 8295963 96.8% |
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Comments: | Quiet. The xref for 巻き寿司 should go the other way. |
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Diff: | @@ -30 +29,0 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="1665520">巻き寿司</xref> |
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4. | A* 2023-10-11 08:42:35 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Trying for a more succinct explanation. |
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Diff: | @@ -33 +33 @@ -<gloss g_type="expl">any of several different dishes made with vinegared rice whixh may also contain vegetables, spices, fish, or other delicacies</gloss> +<gloss g_type="expl">range of dishes made with vinegared rice combined with fish, vegetables, egg, etc.</gloss> |
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3. | A* 2023-10-10 13:39:02 | |
Diff: | @@ -33 +33 @@ -<gloss>anything made with vinegared rice (may also contain vegetables, spices, fish, or other delicacies)</gloss> +<gloss g_type="expl">any of several different dishes made with vinegared rice whixh may also contain vegetables, spices, fish, or other delicacies</gloss> |
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2. | A 2023-10-10 10:48:43 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
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[n]
▶ vacancy ▶ room for rent or lease |
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2. |
[n]
[dated]
▶ gap (between two objects) ▶ opening ▶ space |
3. | A 2023-10-11 08:26:33 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
2. | A* 2023-10-11 00:45:22 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | Adding a second sense ("すきま") found in sankoku, smk, meikyo, iwakoku, etc. meikyo describes it as 古い言い方 Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーー─┬────────────╮ │ 空き間 │ 1,032 │ │ 明き間 │ 0 │ - add, rK (daijr/s, iwakoku, mentioned in smk) │ 空間 │ 17,806,504 │ │ あきま │ 12,931 │ ╰─ーーー─┴────────────╯ |
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Diff: | @@ -5,0 +6,4 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>明き間</keb> +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> @@ -16 +19,0 @@ -<pos>&adj-no;</pos> @@ -18,0 +22,7 @@ +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<misc>&dated;</misc> +<gloss>gap (between two objects)</gloss> +<gloss>opening</gloss> +<gloss>space</gloss> |
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1. | A 2010-06-07 11:49:23 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Diff: | @@ -9,0 +9,1 @@ +<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf> |
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[n]
▶ throat |
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2. |
[n]
▶ important part |
6. | A 2024-10-20 00:51:19 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
5. | A* 2024-10-19 15:24:44 parfait8 | |
Refs: | Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮ │ 喉元 │ 90,470 │ 69.3% │ │ のど元 │ 16,901 │ 12.9% │ add sK │ 喉もと │ 15,007 │ 11.5% │ add │ のどもと │ 8,189 │ 6.3% │ ╰─ーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯ |
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Diff: | @@ -8,0 +9,5 @@ +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>喉もと</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> |
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4. | A 2023-10-13 07:41:22 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I don't think that xref helps. |
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Diff: | @@ -15 +14,0 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2417360">喉元過ぎれば熱さを忘れる</xref> |
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3. | A* 2023-10-11 17:31:22 | |
Refs: | daijr |
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Diff: | @@ -14,0 +15 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="2417360">喉元過ぎれば熱さを忘れる</xref> @@ -15,0 +17,4 @@ +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<gloss>important part</gloss> |
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2. | A 2017-02-13 00:16:20 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
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1. |
[n]
▶ appetizer ▶ starter ▶ hors d'oeuvre
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7. | A 2023-10-11 21:42:34 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
6. | A* 2023-10-11 13:42:47 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮ │ お通し │ 168,660 │ 98.4% │ │ 御通し │ 1,700 │ 1.0% │ - sK │ おとおし │ 1,026 │ 0.6% │ ╰─ーーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯ |
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Diff: | @@ -8,0 +9 @@ +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> |
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5. | A 2019-10-20 20:06:36 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
4. | A* 2019-10-20 19:57:04 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | gg5, daijr |
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Comments: | The refs point from 通し to お通し. It's always said/written with the お. I don't think the x-ref or pol tag are necessary. |
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Diff: | @@ -15,2 +14,0 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="1896920">通し・とおし・2</xref> -<misc>&pol;</misc> @@ -18 +16,2 @@ -<gloss>appetiser</gloss> +<gloss>starter</gloss> +<gloss>hors d'oeuvre</gloss> |
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3. | A 2011-06-25 22:11:37 Jean-Luc Leger <...address hidden...> | |
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1. |
[n]
▶ smith ▶ blacksmith |
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2. |
[n]
[col,uk]
《usu. written as カジヤ》 ▶ small crowbar for extracting nails ▶ cat's paw |
8. | A 2024-05-02 05:26:27 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | https://www.edrdg.org/cgi-bin/wwwjdic/wwwjdic?1MDJ���결 |
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Comments: | Thanks. Fixed. |
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7. | A* 2024-05-02 04:25:14 Syed Raza <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | For clarity, it seems Eve is specifically referring to how this entry displays on WWWJDIC: 鍛冶屋; カジ屋 【かじや; 】. |
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6. | A* 2024-05-02 03:29:19 Eve Kushner <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | There's an extraneous semicolon after the yomi. |
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5. | A 2023-10-12 00:27:20 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | カジヤ isn't used for sense 1. |
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Diff: | @@ -23 +23 @@ -<re_nokanji/> +<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf> @@ -34 +34 @@ -<s_inf>usu. カジヤ</s_inf> +<s_inf>usu. written as カジヤ</s_inf> |
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4. | A 2023-10-11 09:29:44 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Never heard them called that. |
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Diff: | @@ -22,0 +23 @@ +<re_nokanji/> @@ -33 +34,3 @@ -<gloss>cat's paw (small crowbar for pulling nails) (usu. カジヤ)</gloss> +<s_inf>usu. カジヤ</s_inf> +<gloss>small crowbar for extracting nails</gloss> +<gloss>cat's paw</gloss> |
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[n]
▶ forged weaponry (e.g. swords, spears, etc.) ▶ forged metal tool |
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2. |
[n]
▶ molded dry confectionery ▶ moulded dry confectionery |
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3. |
[n]
▶ percussion instrument |
3. | A 2023-10-11 09:22:02 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | GG5 - merges tools and weapons. |
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Diff: | @@ -16,4 +15,0 @@ -<gloss>forged weapon</gloss> -</sense> -<sense> -<pos>&n;</pos> |
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2. | A* 2023-10-10 18:00:32 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーー─┬───────┬───────╮ │ 打ち物 │ 1,753 │ 27.2% │ │ 打物 │ 2,050 │ 31.8% │ - add (daijr/s, koj, etc.) │ うちもの │ 2,645 │ 41.0% │ ╰─ーーーー─┴───────┴───────╯ |
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Diff: | @@ -5,0 +6,3 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>打物</keb> |
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1. | A* 2023-10-10 17:54:50 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | sanoku has 4 glosses, not 3, the missing one is: 打って作った金属器具. <->鋳物 (this must be an antonym, forged vs. cast metal). 打ち物 1753 98.6% 打物師 24 1.4% 打ち物師 0 0.0% |
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Comments: | This is relevant as well for the related [rare] term 打物師. I don't mind if [1] and [2] are grouped together, but sankoku lists them separately. "metal" is redundant, I know. It just seems off without it, but whatever you think. If moved into [1], I'm sure "forged tools" is fine. |
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Diff: | @@ -16,0 +17,4 @@ +<gloss>forged metal tool</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> |
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[n]
[rare]
▶ smith ▶ metalsmith |
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[n]
[rare]
▶ swordsmith |
3. | A 2023-10-12 00:02:44 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Diff: | @@ -20,0 +21 @@ +<misc>&rare;</misc> |
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2. | A 2023-10-11 09:18:40 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | Daijirin: (1)金属をきたえて器物を作る職人。(2)刀剣をきたえる職人。刀工。 GG5: a swordsmith |
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Diff: | @@ -18,0 +19,4 @@ +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<gloss>swordsmith</gloss> +</sense> |
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1. | A* 2023-10-10 18:05:36 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalsmith A metalsmith or simply smith is a craftsperson fashioning useful items (for example, tools, kitchenware, tableware, jewelry, armor and weapons) out of various metals.[1] Smithing is one of the oldest metalworking occupations. Shaping metal with a hammer (forging) is the archetypical component of smithing. Swordsmiths: 打物師 24 0.0% 打ち物師 0 0.0% 刀匠 23598 33.8% 刀工 17291 24.8% 剣匠 3117 4.5% 刀鍛冶 25803 36.9% A whole article on Buddhist 打物 mentioning 打物師 https://kokadou.com/2020/05/19/職人のつぶやき仏具打物師編・仏具の話大谷派/ 打物ってかいて、“うちもの”って呼びます。なんかボールを打つみたいですが、真鍮や銅の板を叩いて菊灯や、灯籠を作る職人を打物師といいますねん。 |
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Comments: | Just edited the entry for 打物. The daijs entry for 打物師 actually says nothing about weapons. Not only that, but swordsmith implies swords, and 打物[1] is *any* metal weapon. I'm not sure if there is an (esp. of weapons) sense here or not. daijs: 金属を打って器物を作る職人。 Seems like an 打ち物師 is anyone who hammers metal into stuff. Doesn't have to be a blacksmith (iron). Could be a coppersmith, goldsmith, etc. It's someone who makes uchimono. The last ref. is someone who works with brass and copper (not a blacksmith, not a swordsmith). |
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[n]
[rare]
▶ self-mastery and devotion |
9. | D 2023-10-11 09:11:45 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I agree. |
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8. | D* 2023-10-10 23:43:41 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I don't think this is needed. If it's not yoji, it's just a very rare compound. 0 n-grams. Not in the refs. |
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7. | A 2023-10-10 22:32:13 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Can't find it in yoji references. |
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Diff: | @@ -12 +11,0 @@ -<misc>&yoji;</misc> |
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6. | A* 2023-10-10 13:42:31 | |
Comments: | No evidence of vs. |
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Diff: | @@ -12 +12 @@ -<pos>&vs;</pos> +<misc>&yoji;</misc> |
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5. | A 2023-10-09 12:20:10 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I don't think those xrefs help. |
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Diff: | @@ -13,3 +12,0 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="1285760">克己</xref> -<xref type="see" seq="1380040">精進・1</xref> -<xref type="see" seq="1380040">精進・2</xref> |
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[adj-na]
[rare]
▶ stupid ▶ dumb
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4. | D 2023-10-19 22:52:26 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | No great loss. |
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3. | D* 2023-10-11 23:48:42 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | This isn't in any of my refs. I don't think ぐじゅん is a real word. It's surely no coincidence that 鈍 and 純 look very similar. 愚純 can be added to the 愚鈍 entry as an sK form. |
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2. | A* 2023-10-10 11:04:13 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 愚純 193 JWN |
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Diff: | @@ -11,0 +12,2 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="1245190">愚鈍</xref> +<misc>&rare;</misc> |
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1. | A 2005-12-22 00:00:00 | |
Comments: | Entry created |
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[n]
▶ adventure travel ▶ adventurous trip |
5. | A 2023-10-11 20:50:35 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | We don't use exp for compounds. |
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Diff: | @@ -11 +10,0 @@ -<pos>&exp;</pos> |
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4. | A 2023-10-11 08:22:50 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I don't think tourism fits very well. |
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Diff: | @@ -14 +13,0 @@ -<gloss>adventure tourism</gloss> |
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3. | A* 2023-10-10 15:49:32 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | https://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=adventure+tourism adventure tourism |
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Comments: | I won't be surprised if "safari" comes back because of the cited refs, but how often do we think that this term, in the wild, means "animal hunting expedition(in africa)"? This seems to muddy the waters when there is a very simple word for Safari in particular: サファリ 503366 92.6% 冒険旅行 40134 7.4% I would suggest "adventurous trip" over "adventuresome trip" if we want that kind of gloss(google gives for more results for the former). ("adventurous trip" was my thought, but I see eijiro also has it). "adventure tourism" comes from reverso, seems reasonable to me in some contexts. I think there a number of cases where "旅行" might be reasonably glossed as "tourism". "safari" seems like a kind of 冒険旅行, but it seems overly specific as a gloss here. Maybe in old Japanese texts this was the word they used for "safari". It seems, minimally, like a [dated] gloss, and we have no way to identify that. "expedition", or simply "an adventure" (also from eijiro) probably work at times: 冒険旅行からの帰国 return from an expedition 冒険旅行に出かける go [set out] on an adventure |
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Diff: | @@ -14,2 +14,2 @@ -<gloss>adventuresome trip</gloss> -<gloss>safari</gloss> +<gloss>adventure tourism</gloss> +<gloss>adventurous trip</gloss> |
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2. | A 2012-02-17 01:08:58 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | GG5, リーダーズ+プラス, Eijiro |
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Diff: | @@ -12,0 +12,1 @@ +<pos>&n;</pos> @@ -13,0 +14,2 @@ +<gloss>adventuresome trip</gloss> +<gloss>safari</gloss> |
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1. | A* 2012-02-17 00:12:06 Francis | |
Refs: | See below. |
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Comments: | Perhaps a step too far for you after my previous two submissions, but for the novice it would help. Naturally, pleanty on Google and other sources. However, I accept that it is all a matter of sensible balance. "冒険" is of course already an entry. If you did promote, the RH showing the same word as above could be deleted. |
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[n]
▶ X mark (indicating an incorrect answer, disagreement, cancellation, etc.)
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6. | A 2023-10-11 23:24:29 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Copy and paste error. |
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5. | A 2023-10-11 21:46:53 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Xref? |
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Diff: | @@ -15 +15 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2767730">バツ印</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2859002">丸印</xref> |
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4. | A* 2023-10-11 20:46:00 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/×#バツ印 |
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Diff: | @@ -11,4 +10,0 @@ -<reb>バツじるし</reb> -<re_restr>バツ印</re_restr> -</r_ele> -<r_ele> @@ -16 +11,0 @@ -<re_restr>ばつ印</re_restr> @@ -20 +15,2 @@ -<gloss>x-mark</gloss> +<xref type="see" seq="2767730">バツ印</xref> +<gloss>X mark (indicating an incorrect answer, disagreement, cancellation, etc.)</gloss> |
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3. | A 2013-02-05 02:07:24 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...> | |
2. | A* 2013-02-05 00:59:16 Marcus Richert | |
Refs: | nikk |
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Comments: | none of the references given had a small ツ in バツ |
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Diff: | @@ -5,1 +5,4 @@ -<keb>バッ印</keb> +<keb>バツ印</keb> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>ばつ印</keb> @@ -8,1 +11,6 @@ -<reb>ばっじるし</reb> +<reb>バツじるし</reb> +<re_restr>バツ印</re_restr> +</r_ele> +<r_ele> +<reb>ばつじるし</reb> +<re_restr>ばつ印</re_restr> |
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[v5s,vt]
▶ to command ▶ to dominate
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[v5s,vt]
▶ to prevent ▶ to obstruct
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[v5s,vt]
▶ to grip ▶ to hold
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4. | A 2023-10-15 03:07:00 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Diff: | @@ -12,0 +13 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="2859011">扼する・1</xref> @@ -18,0 +20 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="2859011">扼する・2</xref> @@ -25 +27 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2859011">扼する</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2859011">扼する・3</xref> |
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3. | A* 2023-10-11 16:39:03 | |
Refs: | sankoku, daijr/s, meikyou |
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Diff: | @@ -24,0 +25 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="2859011">扼する</xref> |
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2. | A 2013-06-22 08:10:04 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...> | |
1. | A* 2013-06-21 07:16:14 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | Daijr, GG5 |
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[n]
▶ lottery |
4. | A 2023-10-11 08:17:22 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | ロッタリー 1243 62.2% ロッテリー 754 37.8% |
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Comments: | From deleted submission. |
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Diff: | @@ -3,0 +4,3 @@ +<r_ele> +<reb>ロッタリー</reb> +</r_ele> |
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3. | A 2022-08-15 10:46:54 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | daijr: ① 宝くじ。富くじ。 ② 抽選。くじ引き。 ③ 運。巡り合わせ。 |
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Comments: | Not just 宝くじ. |
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Diff: | @@ -9 +8,0 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="1516170">宝くじ・1</xref> |
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2. | A 2017-01-27 05:15:21 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | Daijr |
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1. | A* 2016-12-22 17:22:16 Scott | |
Refs: | eij |
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[n]
[pol]
▶ friend |
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[n]
《used by parents, guardians, etc.》 ▶ child (one does not know) ▶ another child ▶ other children |
9. | A 2023-10-20 03:34:29 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I agree. I think [chn] is best kept for children's language, and if there enough cases to warrant it another tag created for "used by parents, ...". |
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Diff: | @@ -21 +21 @@ -<misc>&chn;</misc> +<s_inf>used by parents, guardians, etc.</s_inf> |
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8. | A* 2023-10-11 01:02:52 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I wasn't familiar with this use of the word but after reading various online discussions about it, my impression is that it's not used by children at all. I think we should indicate this in some way or another if we're tagging it as children's language. Maybe something simple like "used by parents, guardians, etc." |
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Diff: | @@ -22 +22 @@ -<gloss>child (one doesn't know)</gloss> +<gloss>child (one does not know)</gloss> |
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7. | A 2023-10-09 04:01:53 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Closing for now. |
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Diff: | @@ -22 +21,0 @@ -<s_inf>used when speaking to one's child or a child under one's care</s_inf> |
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6. | A* 2023-09-22 02:00:23 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I think [chn] should include words used by adults when speaking to children. I mean kids only say あんよ etc. because that's what their parents use those words with them. I'm sure some toddlers pick up on this to some extent too. I don't really think the note is necessary. |
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5. | A* 2023-09-22 00:48:42 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Sense 2 is quite tricky to explain. I don't think children use the word in this way. Is [chn] still applicable here? |
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Diff: | @@ -5,0 +6,4 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>お友だち</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> @@ -18 +22,3 @@ -<gloss>child (that one does not know)</gloss> +<s_inf>used when speaking to one's child or a child under one's care</s_inf> +<gloss>child (one doesn't know)</gloss> +<gloss>another child</gloss> |
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[n]
[hist]
▶ government-established university ▶ national university
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5. | A 2023-10-11 20:48:11 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | https://kotobank.jp/word/官立大学-2875753 戦前期における国立大学の呼称。 |
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Comments: | Looks OK. |
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Diff: | @@ -11,0 +12 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="1287200">国立大学</xref> |
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4. | A* 2023-10-11 09:09:03 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | A bit 直訳. Maybe this. |
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Diff: | @@ -13 +13 @@ -<gloss>official university</gloss> +<gloss>government-established university</gloss> |
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3. | A* 2023-10-10 14:27:33 Marcus Richert | |
Comments: | Is "official university" a meaningful gloss? |
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2. | A 2023-10-09 13:33:35 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 官立大学 1990 |
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1. | A* 2023-09-25 03:06:15 Nicolas Maia | |
Refs: | https://kotobank.jp/word/官立大学-2875753 |
1. |
[n]
▶ investigator ▶ inquisitor ▶ hearing officer ▶ magistrate |
3. | A 2023-10-21 00:39:06 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | RP has it for quaestor! 【ロ史】 Reverso 審問官 13267 |
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Diff: | @@ -11,0 +12 @@ +<gloss>investigator</gloss> @@ -12,0 +14,2 @@ +<gloss>hearing officer</gloss> +<gloss>magistrate</gloss> |
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2. | A* 2023-10-11 00:40:36 | |
Refs: | https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/異端審問官 http://mtgwiki.com/wiki/審問官の隊長/Inquisitor_Captain |
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1. | A* 2023-10-04 01:07:21 |
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[suf,adj-na]
《after the -masu stem of a verb》 ▶ looking as if one wants to ... ▶ looking eager to ... |
7. | A 2023-10-12 00:51:17 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I think think this is sufficient. |
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Diff: | @@ -11,3 +11,2 @@ -<gloss>having the appearance of wanting to ...</gloss> -<gloss>looking eager to</gloss> -<gloss>seeming as if</gloss> +<gloss>looking as if one wants to ...</gloss> +<gloss>looking eager to ...</gloss> |
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6. | A* 2023-10-11 09:03:59 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | ルミナス: (…したそうな様子である) look 「anxious [eager] to do…; (…かのように見える) look [seem] 「as if [like] … |
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Diff: | @@ -12,2 +12,2 @@ -<gloss>looking as if</gloss> -<gloss>seeming</gloss> +<gloss>looking eager to</gloss> +<gloss>seeming as if</gloss> |
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5. | A* 2023-10-10 10:58:37 | |
Refs: | https://kotobank.jp/word/たげ-559984 |
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Comments: | I think only the first definition is appropriate. |
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4. | A 2023-10-09 08:57:25 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Probably not. |
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Diff: | @@ -11,3 +11,3 @@ -<gloss>to have the appearance of wanting to ...</gloss> -<gloss>to look as if</gloss> -<gloss>to seem</gloss> +<gloss>having the appearance of wanting to ...</gloss> +<gloss>looking as if</gloss> +<gloss>seeming</gloss> |
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3. | A* 2023-10-09 00:29:53 Marcus Richert | |
Comments: | Should this have verb glosses? |
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[n]
[sl]
▶ fancam ▶ video recording in which the camera follows a specific member of an idol group during a live performance
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4. | A 2023-10-12 11:42:19 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | https://note.com/stapra/n/n408ef9f249e4 ライブパフォーマンス中の推し(特定の1人のアイドル)だけをカメラで追った動画のこと。 https://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/19658638/ “推しカメラ”とは、特定のメンバーに焦点を当てたパフォーマンス映像のことだ。 https://xn--46-lg4apa4ge0gvdvb5gyeua8578ghl0aj33c.com/release/推しカメラ機能.html 一人だけのメンバーを1曲追い続けた映像の事を言います。 |
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Comments: | It's the video. |
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Diff: | @@ -15 +15 @@ -<gloss>video recording in which the camera follows a specific idol during a live performance</gloss> +<gloss>video recording in which the camera follows a specific member of an idol group during a live performance</gloss> |
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3. | A* 2023-10-12 01:10:52 | |
Comments: | Does it refer to the video recording or actually the camera itself? I would assume it's the latter (though I could be wrong) |
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2. | A 2023-10-11 01:22:26 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | https://fanlore.org/wiki/Fancam |
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Comments: | Plenty of web hits. "fancam" is a very common term in K-pop circles. |
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Diff: | @@ -12 +12,4 @@ -<gloss>video in which the camera follows only one specific idol during a live performance</gloss> +<xref type="see" seq="2742350">推し・2</xref> +<misc>&sl;</misc> +<gloss>fancam</gloss> +<gloss>video recording in which the camera follows a specific idol during a live performance</gloss> |
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1. | A* 2023-10-09 23:04:20 | |
Refs: | https://note.com/stapra/n/n408ef9f249e4 |
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[n]
▶ adventure tourism |
2. | A 2023-10-11 08:54:18 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | May as well add it. Ecotourism is not two words. |
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Diff: | @@ -5,0 +6,3 @@ +</r_ele> +<r_ele> +<reb>アドベンチャー・ツーリズム</reb> |
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1. | A* 2023-10-10 15:28:04 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | JATO: The Japan Adventure Tourism Organization https://atjapan.org/adventure-tourism アドベンチャーツーリズムとは ADVENTURE TOURISM ... (long definition) |
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Comments: | I didn't find any evidence anywhere of a ・ form. (There isn't one in our entry for エコツーリズム either). lots and lots of google hits, though I imagine this is more for marketing use than anything else. |
1. |
[n]
▶ 駆け詰め」に同じ |
3. | R 2023-10-11 08:10:56 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Fork |
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2. | A* 2023-10-10 22:14:17 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 駈け通し 51 駆け詰め 0 |
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Comments: | Needed as an entry? |
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1. | A* 2023-10-10 16:34:38 Robert <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/駆通し/ |
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Comments: | I'm not sure what the best English translation would be. |
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[n]
[rare]
▶ long sprint ▶ dash ▶ run |
3. | A 2023-10-11 08:48:41 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I guess so. |
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2. | A* 2023-10-10 16:57:13 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | This is the ます stem of 駆ける (entry 1244720, sense 1) combined with the suffix 通し (entry 2643570) 〈駆(け)/駈(け)/かけ〉〈通/どお〉し Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーーー─┬───────┬───────╮ │ かけ通し │ 1,994 │ 63.0% │ - lots of false positives (e.g. from 掛け通し) │ 駆け通し │ 184 │ 5.8% │ │ 駈け通し │ 51 │ 1.6% │ │ 駆通し │ 0 │ 0.0% │ │ 駈通し │ 0 │ 0.0% │ │ 駆どおし │ 0 │ 0.0% │ │ 駆けどおし │ 0 │ 0.0% │ │ 駈どおし │ 0 │ 0.0% │ │ 駈けどおし │ 0 │ 0.0% │ │ かけどおし │ 938 │ 29.6% │ ╰─ーーーーー─┴───────┴───────╯ 駆け詰め gets 0 n-gram counts. 〈駆(け)/駈(け)/かけ〉〈詰(め)/づめ〉 |
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Diff: | @@ -3,0 +4,3 @@ +<k_ele> +<keb>駆け通し</keb> +</k_ele> @@ -12 +15,4 @@ -<gloss>駆け詰め」に同じ</gloss> +<misc>&rare;</misc> +<gloss>long sprint</gloss> +<gloss>dash</gloss> +<gloss>run</gloss> |
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1. | A* 2023-10-10 16:34:38 Robert <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/駆通し/ |
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Comments: | I'm not sure what the best English translation would be. |
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[n]
[rare]
▶ old car ▶ rattletrap ▶ jalopy |
6. | D 2023-10-12 00:18:08 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Despite it being in GG5, I think it can go. |
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5. | D* 2023-10-12 00:00:48 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I don't think this is needed. Rare compound. Meaning is obvious. |
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4. | A 2023-10-11 08:18:34 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
3. | A* 2023-10-10 22:48:09 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーーーーー─┬────────╮ │ ボロ車 │ 12,687 │ │ ぼろ車 │ 936 │ │ ポンコツ車 │ 8,014 │ │ ぽんこつ車 │ 263 │ │ ポンコツ自動車 │ 506 │ ╰─ーーーーーーー─┴────────╯ |
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Comments: | This is an easily parsed A+B, and I think users who find this entry from reverse lookups would be looking for a more common variant. |
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Diff: | @@ -14,0 +15 @@ +<misc>&rare;</misc> |
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2. | A 2023-10-10 22:22:08 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | ボロ自動車 131 80.4% ぼろ自動車 32 19.6% |
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Diff: | @@ -3,0 +4,3 @@ +<k_ele> +<keb>ボロ自動車</keb> +</k_ele> @@ -13,0 +17 @@ +<gloss>jalopy</gloss> |
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[n]
▶ lottery |
3. | D 2023-10-11 08:17:38 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Done |
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2. | D* 2023-10-10 22:36:15 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Merge with 2830939・ロッテリー |
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1. | A* 2023-10-10 22:24:54 | |
Refs: | https://www.weblio.jp/content/ロッタリー |
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[n]
▶ lottery wheel |
2. | A 2023-10-11 08:19:58 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 中辞典 |
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1. | A* 2023-10-10 22:30:59 | |
Refs: | 研究社 新和英大辞典 第5版 |
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[vs-s,vt]
▶ to command ▶ to dominate
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[vs-s,vt]
▶ to prevent ▶ to obstruct
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[vs-s,vt]
▶ to grip ▶ to hold
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5. | A 2023-10-15 03:04:27 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Oops. |
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Diff: | @@ -11 +11 @@ -<pos>&vs-i;</pos> +<pos>&vs-s;</pos> @@ -17 +17 @@ -<pos>&vs-i;</pos> +<pos>&vs-s;</pos> @@ -23 +23 @@ -<pos>&vs-i;</pos> +<pos>&vs-s;</pos> |
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4. | A 2023-10-15 03:02:37 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | Daijisen: [動サ変][文]やく・す[サ変] 扼する 929 扼す 167 |
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Comments: | Interesting. GG5 only has 扼す and the kokugos only have 扼する. That xref would go the other way, if it's needed at all. |
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Diff: | @@ -11 +11 @@ -<pos>&v5r;</pos> +<pos>&vs-i;</pos> @@ -17 +17 @@ -<pos>&v5r;</pos> +<pos>&vs-i;</pos> @@ -23 +23 @@ -<pos>&v5r;</pos> +<pos>&vs-i;</pos> @@ -25 +24,0 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2859012">咽喉を扼する</xref> |
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3. | A* 2023-10-11 17:04:19 | |
Diff: | @@ -24,0 +25 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="2859012">咽喉を扼する</xref> |
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2. | A* 2023-10-11 17:00:21 | |
Diff: | @@ -11 +11 @@ -<pos>&v5s;</pos> +<pos>&v5r;</pos> @@ -17 +17 @@ -<pos>&v5s;</pos> +<pos>&v5r;</pos> @@ -23 +23 @@ -<pos>&v5s;</pos> +<pos>&v5r;</pos> |
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1. | A* 2023-10-11 16:37:51 | |
Refs: | sankoku, daijr/s, meikyou Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーー─┬─────╮ │ 扼する │ 929 │ ╰─ーーー─┴─────╯ |
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[exp,vs-s]
[rare,id]
▶ to gain control of a key position ▶ to command a key position
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5. | A 2023-11-09 04:57:57 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | Top 10 N-grams Lookup for 咽喉を (Frequency Order) 咽喉を 9385 咽喉を鳴らし 606 咽喉を持つ 451 咽喉を使用し 449 咽喉を使用 449 咽喉を使用して 448 咽喉を使用して酵素 448 咽喉を潤し 438 咽喉を通ら 396 咽喉を痛め 334 咽喉を鳴らして 316 Top 10 N-grams Lookup for 咽喉を扼 (Frequency Order) 咽喉を扼する 22 |
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Diff: | @@ -12,0 +13 @@ +<misc>&rare;</misc> |
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4. | A 2023-10-17 02:59:44 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | OK |
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3. | A* 2023-10-17 01:10:50 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | daijr/s |
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Comments: | I don't think it's military terminology. |
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Diff: | @@ -13 +12,0 @@ -<field>&mil;</field> @@ -15 +14,2 @@ -<gloss>to obtain control of a key position</gloss> +<gloss>to gain control of a key position</gloss> +<gloss>to command a key position</gloss> |
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2. | A 2023-10-15 03:10:53 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Diff: | @@ -12 +12,2 @@ -<pos>&v5r;</pos> +<pos>&vs-s;</pos> +<field>&mil;</field> @@ -14 +15 @@ -<gloss>obtain control of a key position</gloss> +<gloss>to obtain control of a key position</gloss> |
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1. | A* 2023-10-11 17:03:20 | |
Refs: | sankoku, daijr/s, gg5 |
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[adv]
▶ (coming) such a long way ▶ all this way ▶ from far away |
4. | A 2023-10-24 01:18:59 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
3. | A* 2023-10-24 00:45:58 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | chujiten 遠路はるばる 59,362 遠路はるばると 482 |
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Comments: | Not adv-to. |
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Diff: | @@ -19,3 +19,3 @@ -<pos>&adv-to;</pos> -<gloss>(come) such a long way</gloss> -<gloss>(come) all this way</gloss> +<gloss>(coming) such a long way</gloss> +<gloss>all this way</gloss> +<gloss>from far away</gloss> |
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2. | A 2023-10-22 04:54:31 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 中辞典 遠路はるばる 59362 86.7% 遠路遥々 8380 12.2% 遠路遥遥 690 1.0% |
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Diff: | @@ -9,0 +10,4 @@ +<k_ele> +<keb>遠路遥遥</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> @@ -14,3 +18,4 @@ -<pos>&n;</pos> -<gloss>such a long way</gloss> -<gloss>all this way</gloss> +<pos>&adv;</pos> +<pos>&adv-to;</pos> +<gloss>(come) such a long way</gloss> +<gloss>(come) all this way</gloss> |
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1. | A* 2023-10-11 18:12:55 | |
Refs: | 実用日本語表現辞典 Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮ │ 遠路 │ 108,176 │ 61.5% │ │ 遠路はるばる │ 59,362 │ 33.7% │ │ 遠路遥々 │ 8,380 │ 4.8% │ ╰─ーーーーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯ |
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[place]
▶ Motodai |
2. | A 2023-10-12 07:22:27 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Needs its own entry. |
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Diff: | @@ -10,3 +9,0 @@ -<r_ele> -<reb>ほんだや</reb> -</r_ele> @@ -16,4 +12,0 @@ -</sense> -<sense> -<misc>&surname;</misc> -<gloss>Hondaya</gloss> |
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1. | A* 2023-10-11 18:20:22 | |
Diff: | @@ -9,0 +10,3 @@ +<r_ele> +<reb>ほんだや</reb> +</r_ele> @@ -13,0 +17,4 @@ +<sense> +<misc>&surname;</misc> +<gloss>Hondaya</gloss> +</sense> |