mk

@@ -11,0 +12,2 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
+<pos>&vi;</pos>
@@ -17,0 +20,2 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
+<pos>&vi;</pos>

Splitting on source word.

@@ -22,5 +21,0 @@
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<field>&math;</field>
-<gloss>sine</gloss>
-</sense>

gg5

@@ -18,0 +19,2 @@
+<gloss>signal</gloss>
+<gloss>indication</gloss>

ネオリアリズム	1692
ネオ・リアリズム	813
ネオレアリスム	No matches
ネオ・レアリスム	No matches
ネオレアリズモ	1283
ネオ・レアリズモ	341
ネオリアリズモ	488
ネオ・リアリズモ	341

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ネオ・リアリズム</reb>

GG5, etc.

@@ -17 +17 @@
-<gloss>lifetime</gloss>
+<gloss>one's lifetime</gloss>

GG5

More idiomatic.

@@ -16 +16 @@
-<gloss>one's life time</gloss>
+<gloss>one's whole life</gloss>

Meikyo vt and vi additions to n,vs entries
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -16,0 +17 @@
+<pos>&vi;</pos>

gg5, prog
感服	237393
感服な	239

Only daijr has this as adj-na (and the example is quite old). It's just a noun in the other kokugos. I think we should drop that PoS tag.

@@ -17,2 +16,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
@@ -19,0 +18 @@
+<gloss>being impressed (by)</gloss>

GG5, etc. have "admiration". ルミナス has するand "admire".

gg5, googits

Usually a noun.

@@ -15 +14,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
@@ -18 +17,3 @@
-<gloss>admirable</gloss>
+<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
+<gloss>admiration</gloss>

Daijr, Ida Asako's counter book

@@ -32,0 +33 @@
+<pos>&ctr;</pos>

koj: eng
daijs: eng or dut
wiki(List of gairaigo and wasei-eigo terms): dut

@@ -18,0 +19 @@
+<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
@@ -31,0 +33,2 @@
+<lsource xml:lang="dut">kan</lsource>
+<lsource xml:lang="eng">can</lsource>

Interesting. It's a very old entry, from the days when things weren't vetted much.
I did a study in 2009 which identified ~65k real and potential CVs. This wasn't identified, which is a pretty strong signal that it's simply not used.

傾け倒す	No matches

Is this an actual term? Not in any of my refs. Google results are just from this dict.

brit: 相撲社会のことばで，相口とも書く。
also daijr's 背戸の馬も相口 entry

@@ -8,0 +9,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>相口</keb>

@@ -26,1 +26,2 @@
-<gloss>unbalanced record of wins between two wrestlers (sumo)</gloss>
+<field>&sumo;</field>
+<gloss>unbalanced record of wins between two wrestlers</gloss>

@@ -18 +17,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>

Good catch.

@@ -18,0 +19 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1292240">催眠術・さいみんじゅつ</xref>

GG5; Wisdom J-E

Hypnosis is the state, while hypnotism is the act of inducing this state. (c.f. 「催眠術」)

@@ -19 +19 @@
-<gloss>hypnotism</gloss>
+<gloss>hypnosis</gloss>

Not from the first gloss, but I think "viewership" is a problem there as it has no nuance of 率. I'll add another couple of glosses and drop that one.

@@ -17 +17,2 @@
-<gloss>viewership</gloss>
+<gloss>audience rating</gloss>
+<gloss>viewing rate</gloss>

isn't this specific ratings (as a 
percentage)? the current gloss could lead 
you to believe it's ratings as in "3 
million" rather than 10%

GG5, etc.

"viewership" is actually polysemous and should not lead. "TV show" is a bit too specific - a documentary or a current affairs program is not usually called a "TV show".

@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+<gloss>ratings (e.g. of a television program)</gloss>
@@ -17 +17,0 @@
-<gloss>ratings (of a TV show or video)</gloss>

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/視聴率#Twitter_TV_エコー
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audience_measurement

Leading with a less ambiguous term

@@ -16 +16,2 @@
-<gloss>ratings (of a television program) (programme)</gloss>
+<gloss>viewership</gloss>
+<gloss>ratings (of a TV show or video)</gloss>

@@ -17 +17 @@
-<gloss>to send some one out</gloss>
+<gloss>to send someone out</gloss>

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/星座_(曖昧さ回避)

Splitting into senses. Jwiki calls sense 2 a 俗称.

@@ -18 +17,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
@@ -19,0 +19,4 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>astrological sign</gloss>

Luminous, ALC

@@ -20,0 +20,2 @@
+<gloss>star sign</gloss>
+<gloss>zodiac sign</gloss>

gg5, chujiten

@@ -22 +22 @@
-<gloss>early</gloss>
+<gloss>a little early</gloss>
@@ -30 +30,2 @@
-<gloss>quickly</gloss>
+<gloss>rather quickly</gloss>
+<gloss>a little faster than usual</gloss>

Daijirin, 中辞典, etc. combine 早目 and 速目 into the one extry. We do that with "esp. ..." notes on the senses.
ルミナス: 速めに歩く walk a little quickly

A sense split and notes probably help here.

@@ -20,0 +21 @@
+<s_inf>esp. 早めに</s_inf>
@@ -25,0 +27,5 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&adv;</pos>
+<s_inf>esp. 速めに</s_inf>
+<gloss>quickly</gloss>
+</sense>

isn't 速め wrong here? it refers to speed, 
not time

gg5, prog

I think we can simplify sense 2.

@@ -20 +20,2 @@
-<gloss>relying upon others for attaining one's own objective</gloss>
+<gloss>relying on others</gloss>
+<gloss>depending on others</gloss>

@@ -18,0 +19 @@
+<misc>&yoji;</misc>

Kanji Haitani list

Adding yoji tagAdding yoji tag
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -13,0 +14 @@
+<misc>&yoji;</misc>

daij, koj

Last two senses are archaic.

@@ -33,0 +34 @@
+<misc>&arch;</misc>
@@ -35,0 +37,7 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&arch;</misc>
+<gloss>price</gloss>
+<gloss>cost</gloss>
+<gloss>money</gloss>
+</sense>

WWW images.

AFAICT シロモノ is more usually 白物.

@@ -12,0 +13,4 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>シロモノ</reb>
+<re_nokanji/>

We need to consider シロモノ (146327). It seems to be used for both 代物 and 白物. For the latter there's also 白モノ (5820).

Agree

I feel like "December 31" isn't a particularly helpful gloss here.  "New Year's Eve (December 31)" maybe but is this something that really needs to be clarified?

I don't think this is adv

大年 should be aligned

@@ -17 +16,0 @@
-<pos>&adv;</pos>
@@ -19 +17,0 @@
-<gloss>December 31</gloss>

Bulk update: Replace n-t with n,adv
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -16 +16,2 @@
-<pos>&n-t;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&adv;</pos>

https://www.edrdg.org/wiki/index.php/Editorial_policy#Date_Formats

https://www.editarians.com/ordinals-cardinals/

Please also align 「大年」.

@@ -18 +18 @@
-<gloss>December 31st</gloss>
+<gloss>December 31</gloss>

玉子	1,636,998

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>

玉子焼き	        295,841		
卵焼き	        489,562		
玉子料理	        5,607		
卵料理	        75,836

This is our usual style. I think I wanted to avoid this (when I added the original note) because it could imply that 玉子 is more common than 卵 in cooking contexts, but it's probably fine.

@@ -29 +29 @@
-<s_inf>玉子 oft. used in cooking</s_inf>
+<s_inf>oft. 玉子 in cooking</s_inf>

《玉子 oft. used in cooking》

I think this note is hard to make sense of, and could be made clearer.

mk

@@ -16,0 +17,2 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
+<pos>&vi;</pos>
@@ -22,0 +25,2 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
+<pos>&vi;</pos>

daij, meikyo

Splitting into senses.

@@ -18 +17,0 @@
-<gloss>talking to oneself</gloss>
@@ -20,0 +20,5 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<gloss>talking to oneself</gloss>
+</sense>

gg5, shinmeikai, www images

I don't think we need more than two senses. It almost always refers to insoles.

@@ -14,0 +15,2 @@
+<gloss>insole</gloss>
+<gloss>(shoe) insert</gloss>
@@ -19,6 +21 @@
-<gloss>insole</gloss>
-<gloss>whole length sock</gloss>
-<gloss>sock liner</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>rug</gloss>

@@ -15,1 +15,1 @@
-<gloss>an intermediate layer</gloss>
+<gloss>intermediate layer</gloss>

daij, prog, Luminous, ALC, 新和英中辞典

Only Luminous lists carpet.

@@ -4,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>中敷</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -14,0 +17,10 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>insole</gloss>
+<gloss>whole length sock</gloss>
+<gloss>sock liner</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>carpet</gloss>
+</sense>

@@ -12 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>back door or entrance</gloss>
+<gloss>back door</gloss>
+<gloss>back entrance</gloss>

Not music?

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>notochord (rudimentary spinal chord)</gloss>
+<gloss>notochord (rudimentary spinal cord)</gloss>

gg5, prog, daijr
舌触り	196204
舌ざわり	45896

@@ -7,0 +8,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>舌ざわり</keb>
@@ -16 +19,2 @@
-<gloss>texture of food</gloss>
+<gloss>feel on the tongue (of food or drink)</gloss>
+<gloss>texture</gloss>

Yes, on reflection I think it's really 3 single organizations, as opposed to "land, sea and air forces".

@@ -17 +17 @@
-<gloss>army, navy and air forces</gloss>
+<gloss>army, navy and air force</gloss>

i.e. you wouldn't say "air force, navy and armies" if the order was different

but "army" and "navy" aren't abbreviations of "army force"/"navy force".  I think Nicholas is correct here

No. It needs the "s" because there are 3 forces. It's like if I were referring to the French Navy, the Italian Navy and the Spanish Navy I'd say "the French, Italian and Spanish navies". It would only omit the "s" if there was a single force.

I think adding an "s" at the end implies saying "army forces" and "navy forces" too, no? Or that more than one air force is being discussed.

お玉	195379	34.4%
御玉	2523	0.4%
おたま	344106	60.7%
オタマ	25222	4.4%

assuming sense 2 is uk too.

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -15 +16,2 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1589210">お玉杓子・おたまじゃくし・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1589210">お玉杓子・1</xref>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -21,0 +24 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>

daijr: 〔もと近世女性語〕

Not a female term in modern Japanese.

@@ -22,2 +22 @@
-<misc>&fem;</misc>
-<gloss>hen egg</gloss>
+<gloss>(hen's) egg</gloss>

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
252,214	 95.4%	見張る
  5,048	  1.9%	見はる
  7,182	  2.7%	瞠る
114,128	  n/a 	みはる

192,508	 85.5%	目を見張る
 26,018	 11.6%	目をみはる
  6,535	  2.9%	目を瞠る
    145	  0.1%	めをみはる

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>

daijr, prog
目を見張る	192508
目をみはる	26018
目を瞠る	        6535

@@ -9,0 +10,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>目を瞠る</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -16,3 +19,3 @@
-<gloss>to be wide-eyed (in surprise)</gloss>
-<gloss>to open one's eyes wide (in wonder)</gloss>
-<gloss>to be amazed (at, by)</gloss>
+<gloss>to open one's eyes wide (in astonishment, wonder, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>to be wide-eyed</gloss>
+<gloss>to be amazed</gloss>

紙相撲	9666
紙ずもう	718

Added form.

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>紙ずもう</keb>
@@ -13 +15,0 @@
-<field>&sumo;</field>

@@ -12,2 +12,2 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1401360">相撲</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1401360">相撲</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1401360">相撲・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1401360">相撲・1</xref>

@@ -14,0 +14,1 @@
+<field>&sumo;</field>
@@ -15,1 +16,1 @@
-<gloss>children's game played with paper cutouts</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">children's game of sumo played with paper cutouts of wrestlers</gloss>

POS alignment. See 1189060.

@@ -11 +11 @@
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>

And thanks for correcting a 16(!)-year-old mistake.

Indeed. When 何 is read なん, it typically means "how many". Compare 何人/なんにん with 何人/なにじん.

https://youglish.com/pronounce/何座/japanese?

This was prompted by a friend being told by some japanese people it was absolutely read なにざ and not なんざ. I can't find a dictionary that has it, but youglish seems to confirm their opinion.

@@ -8 +8 @@
-<reb>なんざ</reb>
+<reb>なにざ</reb>

gg5, daijr/s

@@ -13 +13,7 @@
-<gloss>collecting eggs (i.e. from laying hens)</gloss>
+<gloss>egg collection (from hens, fish, etc.)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<field>&med;</field>
+<gloss>oocyte collection</gloss>

Entry created

Better

Better?

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>it often takes time to bear the fruit of one's actions</gloss>
+<gloss>it often takes time for one's actions to bear fruit</gloss>

The English of the main gloss seems odd.

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<misc>&proverb;</misc>
@@ -13 +14 @@
-<gloss g_type="lit">planted peach and chestnut seeds take three years to bear fruit, persimmons take eight</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">planted peach and chestnut seeds take three years (to bear fruit), persimmons take eight</gloss>

gg5

 桃栗三年柿八年. The peach and chestnut take three years to bear fruit, the 
persimmon eight years.

yup

@@ -12,1 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>it often takes time to bear the fruit of one's actions (lit: planted peach and chestnut seeds take three years to bear fruit, plums take eight)</gloss>
+<gloss>it often takes time to bear the fruit of one's actions</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">planted peach and chestnut seeds take three years to bear fruit, persimmons take eight</gloss>

eij

Readers aren't necessarily subscribers.

@@ -12,2 +12 @@
-<gloss>reader numbers</gloss>
-<gloss>number of subscribers (e.g. to a magazine)</gloss>
+<gloss>number of readers (of a magazine, newspaper, etc.)</gloss>

"readership" has a broader meaning than 読者数, and shouldn't be the first meaning.

@@ -11,0 +12,2 @@
+<gloss>reader numbers</gloss>
+<gloss>number of subscribers (e.g. to a magazine)</gloss>
@@ -13 +14,0 @@
-<gloss>number of subscribers (e.g. to a magazine)</gloss>

prog https://kotobank.jp/ejword/readership

More concise

@@ -12 +12 @@
-<gloss>reader numbers</gloss>
+<gloss>readership</gloss>

Entry created

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<field>&food;</field>

koj, daij, shinmeikai, meikyo, gakken katakana

unquestionably the spaghetti sense rules

@@ -9,2 +9,13 @@
-<lsource xml:lang="ita"/>
-<gloss>peperoncino</gloss>
+<gloss>spaghetti aglio, olio e peperoncino</gloss>
+<gloss>spaghetti aglio e olio</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">spaghetti with garlic, olive oil, and dried red chili flakes</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1446680">唐辛子・1</xref>
+<s_inf>orig. meaning</s_inf>
+<lsource xml:lang="ita">peperoncino</lsource>
+<gloss>capsicum</gloss>
+<gloss>chili pepper</gloss>
+<gloss>cayenne</gloss>
+<gloss>red pepper</gloss>

Entry created

@@ -33 +33 @@
-<gloss>something appearing from a place you wouldn't expect</gloss>
+<gloss>something appearing from a place one wouldn't expect</gloss>

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 瓢箪から駒　　　　 │ 17,719 │ 58.6% │
│ ひょうたんから駒　 │  5,296 │ 17.5% │
│ 瓢箪からこま　　　 │    307 │  1.0% │ 🡠 adding
│ 瓢箪から独楽　　　 │    303 │  1.0% │ 🡠 adding (meikyo: 「独楽(こま)」と書くのは誤り。)
│ ひょうたんから独楽 │     49 │  0.2% │ 🡠 adding
│ 瓢簞から駒　　　　 │      0 │  0.0% │ 🡠 adding (「簞」 is the jinmeiyō version of 「箪」)
│ ひょうたんからこま │  6,573 │ 21.7% │
╰─ーーーーーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯

@@ -8,0 +9,16 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>瓢箪からこま</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>瓢箪から独楽</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>ひょうたんから独楽</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>瓢簞から駒</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

瓢箪から駒	17719
ひょうたんから駒	5296
ヒョウタンから駒	382
daijs 瓢箪から駒が出る entry

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>ひょうたんから駒</keb>
@@ -12 +15,3 @@
-<gloss>something very unexpected</gloss>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&id;</misc>
+<gloss>something appearing from a place you wouldn't expect</gloss>
@@ -14 +19,8 @@
-<gloss g_type="lit">a horse comes from a gourd</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">a horse from a gourd</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&exp;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&id;</misc>
+<gloss>something impossible</gloss>
+<gloss>something ridiculous</gloss>

@@ -14,1 +14,1 @@
-<gloss>lit: a horse comes from a gourd</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">a horse comes from a gourd</gloss>

GG5: He that toucheth pitch shall be defiled．

I guess this can be closed. Seems OK.

https://www.bible.com/bible/compare/PRO.13.20

Proverbs 13:20 New Century Version (NCV)
Spend time with the wise and you will become wise, but the friends of fools will suffer.

https://yoji-jukugo.com/近朱必赤/#:~:text=人は交わる相手によって,必ず赤くなる」という意味。

http://www.nishikie.com/stories/TNS-1054-6_confessions_of_evil.html
Proverb (allegory) is modified by 朱(しゆ)に交(まぢ)ハれバ赤(あか)くなる (shiyu ni madjihareba akaku naru) -- which today would be written 朱に交われば赤くなる (Shu ni majiwareba akaku naru) -- meaning "when mixing (mingling, associating) with vermilion, one becomes red" -- in other words, one is inspired to be good or evil according to the friends or company one keeps.

The Japanese proverb reflects part of the the Chinese expression 近朱者赤、近墨者黒 (jìn zhū zhĕ chì, jìn mò zhĕ hēi) -- meaning "those tho get close to cinnabar [China] ink become red, [while] those who get close to soot [India] ink become black" -- attributed to the poet Fu Hsuan (傅玄, Fu Xuan, 217-278) -- among other expressions, like 近墨必緇、近朱必赤.

One reason I started looking at this was because of the dated nature of the gloss.  I wasn't familiar with it (doesn't mean it's bad or wrong, of course), so it didn't seem to clarify the meaning for me.  I actually internalized the "bad" reading from the outset, assuming that red=bad (as in 朱を入れる - to make a correction). 

Googling around I see this is a bible verse.  I ran into the "New Century Version" translation, and it seems a bit more accessible. (linked reference has various translations)

"Spend time with the wise and you will become wise, but the friends of fools will suffer."

What do you think? I don't know that any of the various formulations are extremely commonly known, so modern grammar seems preferable to me.  For what it's worth, I told a 50 year old friend about the "lay down with dogs" idiom, which is apparently also biblical, and he wasn't familiar with it.

I search backwards for the longer Chinese expression referencing both vermillion and soot (black), and found what I think is a better literal gloss.  

Also, "influenced by one's environment" is maybe not as specific as it could be (being overshadowed by a lot of talented people might impact someone negatively, for example, but that would be contrary to this idiom).

@@ -14,3 +14,3 @@
-<gloss>you are the company you keep</gloss>
-<gloss>if you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas</gloss>
-<gloss g_type="lit">if you mingle with vermillion, you will turn red</gloss>
+<gloss>people will take on the characteristics of those who surround them</gloss>
+<gloss>spend time with the wise and you will become wise, but the friends of fools will suffer</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">when mixing with vermillion, one becomes red</gloss>

If classes are divivided up by current academic performance, then what will happen to students after that...
https://twitter.com/Tontantan3/status/1630420102678978561
しかし成績によるクラス分けがその後「朱に交われば赤くなる」的に大きく影響すると言われればそれは確かにそうだろうとは思うし、

About changing your surroundings to improve
https://twitter.com/minagawashi/status/1628500627017064449
「朱に交われば赤くなる」。あなたはきっと良い方向へ変わっていける！

That's a good catch... I think I was influenced by some of the older glosses that float around, like "he who touches pitch shall be defiled therewith" and "one rotten apple spoils the barrel", and happened to stumble into a Japanese writeup that confirmed what I expected to hear.

"you are the company you keep" is, I think, usually used judgmentally, and about the quality of one's character (not financial or academic success, etc., or professional sports performance, as I saw in one post). 

朱に交われば赤くなる seems to be a lot more, general in observing that people will be influenced by the environment they are placed it. (there may also be a judgemental after-the-fast usage, but it's certainly not the only usage).

"with wolves", like the older, dropped "pitch" gloss, seems far too negative for how this is used in practice... I might suggest just reverting to where things were, not sure I have anything to add from that. Will think about it

Looking at examples on Twitter, I don't think ふつう、悪い意味の時に使う。 is true.

Important warning given on https://proverb-encyclopedia.com/syunimaziwarreba/
ふつう、悪い意味の時に使う。
「うちの子は進学塾に通うようになったら、朱に交われば赤くなるで、熱心に勉強して成績が上がるようになったの。」
と使うのは誤り。

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/if_you_lie_down_with_dogs,_you_get_up_with_fleas#:~:text=Proverb,-if you lie&text=Spending time with undesirable people,take on their undesirable traits.

"Spending time with undesirable people will cause one to take on their undesirable traits."

Some different gloss suggestions...

You could drop the dogs/flees gloss and just leave "you are the company you keep". I think it's basically a perfect match. (Especially if you want to preserve the theoretical ambiguity that it could be used in a positive sense).

In reply to Marcus's comments from 2020, I suspect the 国語辞典 has been lazy with discussing the nuance. 
As with this English saying, in theory it means "if you spend time with bad people, you'll get bad habits, if you spend time with good people, you'll get good habits".

But it's only really used as a cautionary admonition towards people who are doing bad things. (See reference note, ふつう、悪い意味の時に使う. Also, all example sentences in reference are negative）

We rarely say "you are the company the company you keep" of people who spend all their time working with charities and volunteer groups.

==== Note for curious === 
Apparently from a longer Chinese saying, same meaning -  that mixed with black ink turns black, that mixed with vermillion turns red.  What I read wasn't apparent about whether red and black were inherently good or bad - more just the notion that your surroundings rub off on you.

@@ -14,2 +14,3 @@
-<gloss>people are formed by their surroundings</gloss>
-<gloss>walk with the wise and become wise; associate with fools and get in trouble</gloss>
+<gloss>you are the company you keep</gloss>
+<gloss>if you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">if you mingle with vermillion, you will turn red</gloss>

@@ -12,2 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>egg-laying hens</gloss>
-<gloss>layers</gloss>
+<gloss>egg-laying hen</gloss>
+<gloss>layer</gloss>

スーパー大辞林: 卵を産ませるために改良された鶏。

@@ -21 +20,0 @@
-<gloss>December 31</gloss>

https://www.edrdg.org/wiki/index.php/Editorial_policy#Date_Formats

@@ -21 +21 @@
-<gloss>December 31st</gloss>
+<gloss>December 31</gloss>

koj, daijr, daijs

@@ -16,2 +16,2 @@
-<gloss>returning to one's parent's house to give birth</gloss>
-<gloss>giving birth at one's parent's home</gloss>
+<gloss>returning to one's parents' house to give birth</gloss>
+<gloss>giving birth at one's parents' home</gloss>

Daijr, ＫＯＤ追加語彙

Weblio英語表現辞典 (dunno where it's taken from)
734,000+18,200 results
they're talking about how to do "うまくいく里帰り出産” on asaichi 
right know.

I don't think this should have an expl.

@@ -17 +16,0 @@
-<gloss g_type="expl">regression to an earlier stage of childhood development</gloss>

GG5

Same handbook

saw as せんちで饅頭 on wiki
雪隠で饅頭	92
せんちで饅頭	26
せっちんで饅頭	No matches

@@ -6,0 +7,6 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>せんちで饅頭</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>せんちでまんじゅう</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -9,3 +15 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>せんちでまんじゅう</reb>
+<re_restr>雪隠で饅頭</re_restr>

"loo" is rather casual.

@@ -18 +18 @@
-<gloss g_type="lit">manju in the loo</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">manjū in the toilet</gloss>

daij

A bit odd glossing the first sense as proverb and the 
second as id, but...

Took me a while to see the difference.

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>curly hairstyle created by braiding (rather then perming)</gloss>
+<gloss>curly hairstyle created by braiding (rather than perming)</gloss>

貧乏パーマ	443
heard used in conversation

https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2016/4/2/11353328/the-story-behind-shinsuke-nakamuras-bomaye-becoming-kishasa-in-wwe

From Lingala, not Swahili. I don't think we need to mention the source language or give literal translations here. The meaning is far removed from the original expression.

@@ -10,4 +10,2 @@
-<lsource xml:lang="swa"/>
-<gloss>bomaye knee (wrestling)</gloss>
-<gloss g_type="lit">kill him</gloss>
-<gloss g_type="lit">finish him</gloss>
+<gloss>bomaye (wrestling move)</gloss>
+<gloss>Kinshasa knee strike</gloss>

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/中邑真輔

Charming.

@@ -8,6 +7,0 @@
-<pos>&int;</pos>
-<gloss>bomaye</gloss>
-<gloss>kill him</gloss>
-<gloss>finish him</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
@@ -15 +9,5 @@
-<gloss>bomaye knee (wrestling move):Kinshasa</gloss>
+<field>&sports;</field>
+<lsource xml:lang="swa"/>
+<gloss>bomaye knee (wrestling)</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">kill him</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">finish him</gloss>

lsrc:Lingala
sense 1:
rumble in the jungle fame, I think I've heard it chanted in Japanese somewhere
sense 2:
daijs+
http://fightland.vice.com/blog/pro-wrestlings-shinsuke-nakamura-and-the-bomaye-knee

No, just didn't occur to me.

Any reason it can't be this?

@@ -12 +12 @@
-<gloss>qualities of a star (i.e. celebrity)</gloss>
+<gloss>star quality</gloss>

OK

スター性	27306
heard on TV (pop star context)
worth having?

ＫＯＤ追加語彙

I can't find it being regularly used this way in English.

@@ -12 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>lucky item</gloss>
+<lsource ls_wasei="y">lucky item</lsource>
+<gloss>good-luck charm</gloss>

*that will give you luck

ラッキーアイテム	99872
saw on TV horoscope (占い) type of thing
(i.e. "the item that will give you look 
today is: something in your drawer タンスの
中のもの")

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>

OK with me.

can we trim it a little? I don't think " and community project " adds all that much (and I find it a little confusing)

@@ -18 +18 @@
-<gloss>volunteer-run cafeteria and community project providing free or inexpensive meals to children, elderly people, etc.</gloss>
+<gloss>volunteer-run cafeteria providing free or inexpensive meals (to children, etc.)</gloss>

Works for me.

https://musubie.org/faq/
"「子どもが一人でも行ける無料または低額の食堂」と定義しています。 多様な形態があり、共通点は「子ども」と「食」の「居場所」でしょうか。「子ども専用食堂」ではありません。実際には、子どもからお年寄りまで、地域の多様な方たちが参加される「多世代交流拠点」として運営されているところが多いです。参加者の９割が高齢者というこども食堂もあります。"

A romanisation might not be necessary. I added it because I assumed that "こども食堂" was founded and managed by a charity or NPO but there's actually no central organisation.
They're not just used by children. How about this?

@@ -18 +18 @@
-<gloss>cafeteria providing free or inexpensive meals for children</gloss>
+<gloss>volunteer-run cafeteria and community project providing free or inexpensive meals to children, elderly people, etc.</gloss>

バッテリーケージ	No matches
nothing on kotobank, nothing in the ngrams, not in eij, not in any of the EJ's on weblio

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/バタリーケージ

nothing in the ngrams
not in eij
nothing on kotobank (not as a headword, not in any entry)

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/強制摂食

ＫＯＤ追加語彙

bio-chem really.

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<field>&chem;</field>

レジスタントスターチ	1265
https://style.nikkei.com/article/DGXMZO08120100X01C16A0000000/
"炭水化物なのに太らない　秘密はレジスタントスターチ"

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>レジスタント・スターチ</reb>

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/レジスタントスターチ

or biol

ＫＯＤ追加語彙
レジスタントプロテイン	951

GG5 and other JEs.

"listenership" can also mean the totality of listeners, which misses the 率 aspect.

@@ -12 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>listenership (of radio, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>listener ratings (radio, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>listenership</gloss>

britannica https://kotobank.jp/word/聴取率-97911

GG5 (also has the old-fashioned "drawing a bath".)

@@ -13,0 +14 @@
+<gloss>running a bath</gloss>

https://www.weblio.jp/content/湯張り

祓魔師	594
祓魔式	57
祓魔	939
祓魔は	147
祓魔の	44

https://kotobank.jp/word/祓魔-125278

Daijr too

daijs

京に田舎あり	406

glosses can be improved

Jitenon has this expression with a comma.

https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/122
Adding commas to readings to align with kanji forms.

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>京の夢大阪の夢</keb>
+<keb>京の夢、大阪の夢</keb>
@@ -8 +8,2 @@
-<keb>京の夢、大阪の夢</keb>
+<keb>京の夢大阪の夢</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11 +12 @@
-<reb>きょうのゆめおおさかのゆめ</reb>
+<reb>きょうのゆめ、おおさかのゆめ</reb>

Yes, looks a tough one.

京の夢大阪の夢	1427
daijs:夢の話をする前に唱える言葉。
[補説]江戸いろはガルタで、最後の句。
https://imidas.jp/proverb/detail/X-02-C-07-8-0020.html
https://proverb-encyclopedia.com/kyounoyume/

hard to translate/make a useful entry out of.

Add POS to proverbs
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<pos>&v5r;</pos>

daijr
墨に染まれば黒くなる	130
朱に交われば赤くなる	10448

the xref is of the "(much) more common version of this saying with the same meaning is:" variety

daijr uses this in their 人食い馬にも合い口 entry

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>背戸の馬も合い口</keb>

daijr
背戸の馬も相口	41

背戸の馬も合口	No matches
背戸の馬にも相口	No matches
人喰馬にも相口	No matches
人喰馬も相口	No matches

Household word.

daijr
人食い馬	120
daijr's example is from 1723, so assuming arch

瓢箪から駒が出る	398
瓢箪から駒が出た	90
瓢箪から駒が出て	55

Adding inflection tags is possibly useful, but I wouldn't try to contort the gloss into a verb.

@@ -14,0 +15 @@
+<pos>&v1;</pos>
@@ -21,0 +23 @@
+<pos>&v1;</pos>

daijs nikk

Not sure what to do about glosses (should we make them more verb-y? should they maybe be tagged as v1?)

Sounds like a proverb.

daijr

maybe exp,n,id rather than exp,proverb

GG5

@@ -12 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>experimentalism</gloss>
+<gloss>experimentalism (philosophy, esp. Dewey)</gloss>
+<gloss>experientialism</gloss>

daijr, daijs, nikk: https://kotobank.jp/word/実験主義-521263
実験主義	874

(esp. Dewey)?

@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+<field>&phil;</field>
@@ -14 +15 @@
-<gloss>positivism (philosophy)</gloss>
+<gloss>positivism</gloss>

GG5

Will be getting a "philosophy" tag.

@@ -14 +14 @@
-<gloss>positivism</gloss>
+<gloss>positivism (philosophy)</gloss>

nikk: https://kotobank.jp/word/実験論-2046631
実験論	75
実証主義	30519
実験主義	874

very obscure

JLD, Eijiro

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1092680">ネオリアリズム</xref>

nikk: https://kotobank.jp/word/新写実主義-81881
新写実主義	112
ネオリアリズム	1692
ネオ・リアリズム	813
ネオレアリスム	No matches
ネオ・レアリスム	No matches
ネオレアリズモ	1283
ネオ・レアリズモ	341
ネオリアリズモ	488
ネオ・リアリズモ	341

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_neorealism

No, not used in English.

@@ -17,0 +18,2 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1092680">ネオリアリズム</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1092680">ネオリアリズム</xref>
@@ -19 +21 @@
-<gloss>Italian neorealism</gloss>
+<gloss>Italian neorealism (esp. in film)</gloss>

daijr, daijs, nikk: https://kotobank.jp/word/ネオレアリズモ-594635
ネオレアリズモ	1283
ネオ・レアリズモ	341
ネオリアリズモ	488
ネオ・リアリズモ	341

is "neorealismo" itself a translation (foreign or borrowed word in English)?

GG5

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>スリー・アウト</reb>

https://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=スリーアウト
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/アウト_(野球)#日本語におけるアウトの表現
アウトになった攻撃側プレイヤーの数はアウトカウントといい、日本語では、ノーアウト、ワンナウト、ツーアウト、スリーアウトと数えるのが一般的である

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ツー・アウト</reb>

GG5

https://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=ツーアウト
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/アウト_(野球)#日本語におけるアウトの表現
アウトになった攻撃側プレイヤーの数はアウトカウントといい、日本語では、ノーアウト、ワンナウト、ツーアウト、スリーアウトと数えるのが一般的である

ノーアウト、ワンナウト already exist.

I need to fix some sentence indices.

Splitting on source word (from 1056230).

はるのど.

@@ -8 +8 @@
-<reb>ひょういにでる</reb>
+<reb>いひょうにでる</reb>

gg5, daijr