daij, koj

@@ -18,0 +19,6 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1150650">愛犬家</xref>
+<gloss>love of dogs</gloss>
+<gloss>fondness for dogs</gloss>
+</sense>

prog, nc, gg5

@@ -16,0 +16,1 @@
+<gloss>pet dog</gloss>
@@ -17,1 +18,0 @@
-<gloss>pet dog</gloss>

daij, nikk

@@ -16,0 +16,1 @@
+<gloss>beloved dog</gloss>

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
| 陰鬱　　 | 76,102 | 94.1% |
| 陰うつ　 |  2,030 |  2.5% |
| 陰欝　　 |  1,740 |  2.2% |
| いんうつ |  1,033 |  1.3% |

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>

欝 = 鬱 itaiji, so it's not iK

@@ -12 +11,0 @@
-<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>

gg5, prog
陰鬱を	349
陰鬱が	142
陰鬱な	47356

-> adjective glosses

@@ -20 +20 @@
-<gloss>gloom</gloss>
+<gloss>gloomy</gloss>
@@ -21,0 +22,3 @@
+<gloss>dreary</gloss>
+<gloss>depressed</gloss>
+<gloss>dismal</gloss>

@@ -8,0 +8,3 @@
+<keb>陰うつ</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -10,3 +13,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>陰うつ</keb>

@@ -13 +13,2 @@
-<gloss>to put on (coats and similar)</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1171770">羽織</xref>
+<gloss>to put on (coat, gown, etc.)</gloss>

https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/33266/is-はおる-a-commonly-used-verb

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>to put on</gloss>
+<gloss>to put on (coats and similar)</gloss>

this is not a duplicate.  both are entry ID 1208920; however, it appears that because an anonymous editor revived a rejected fork and Jim approved on that branch instead of rejecting, this one entry now has two approved branches.  (if you search for 株, two entries will show.)  this should not be able to happen, so it appears to be a database error.  i will raise this on the mailing list so it can be fixed

i will try deleting the other forked branch; however, i suspect that it will delete the entire entry and it will need to be restored.

if it was you who revived the rejected branch, please do not do so again.  edit off of the approved branches that represent the current entries only.

duplicate entry: see https://www.edrdg.org/jmdictdb/cgi-bin/entr.py?svc=jmdict&sid=&q=1208920.1

In the absence of a reference or examples I'm dropping this edit.

@@ -49,7 +48,0 @@
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="1208980">株式会社</xref>
-<misc>&abbr;</misc>
-<gloss>stock company</gloss>
-</sense>

(a) please provide a case for this edit - references, examples, etc.
(b) why was the cross-reference to お株 removed?

@@ -45,0 +46 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1694520">御株・おかぶ</xref>
@@ -51 +52,3 @@
-<gloss>abbreviation for stock company (株式会社)</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1208980">株式会社</xref>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
+<gloss>stock company</gloss>

@@ -46 +45,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1694520">お株</xref>
@@ -48,0 +48,5 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
+<gloss>abbreviation for stock company (株式会社)</gloss>
+</sense>

Jim approved an edit made to a rejected fork, which appears to have caused this entry to show up twice in the database.  (株[Seq=1208920] has two approved Seq numbers: this one, ID=2051055, and another one, ID=1070337).

i will raise it on the mailing list, but i'm seeing what happens if i delete this entry.  will it delete both of the ID numbers or only one?

In the absence of a reference or examples I'm dropping this edit.

@@ -49,7 +48,0 @@
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="1208980">株式会社</xref>
-<misc>&abbr;</misc>
-<gloss>stock company</gloss>
-</sense>

(a) please provide a case for this edit - references, examples, etc.
(b) why was the cross-reference to お株 removed?

@@ -45,0 +46 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1694520">御株・おかぶ</xref>
@@ -51 +52,3 @@
-<gloss>abbreviation for stock company (株式会社)</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1208980">株式会社</xref>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
+<gloss>stock company</gloss>

@@ -46 +45,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1694520">お株</xref>
@@ -48,0 +48,5 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
+<gloss>abbreviation for stock company (株式会社)</gloss>
+</sense>

Noted [8-)}].
The "edict2" format used by WWWJDIC uses EUC-JP coding which supports the JIS X 0208 and 0212 character sets. The standard conversion from UTF-8 to EUC simply drops unsupported characters, but our routine does a few fiddles of the ㈱ -> (株) variety. sometimes with amusing results.

Just noting that ㈱ is rendered as "(株)" on WWWJDIC, so the note reads "written as (株) or (株)".

I've reindexed sentences.

I'll move it to #5. I quite like that odd glyph.

@@ -41,0 +42,10 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1208980">株式会社</xref>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
+<s_inf>in company names; written as (株) or ㈱</s_inf>
+<gloss>stock company</gloss>
+<gloss>corporation</gloss>
+<gloss>kabushiki kaisha</gloss>
+<gloss>KK</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -58,10 +67,0 @@
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="1208980">株式会社</xref>
-<misc>&abbr;</misc>
-<s_inf>in company names; written as (株)</s_inf>
-<gloss>stock company</gloss>
-<gloss>corporation</gloss>
-<gloss>kabushiki kaisha</gloss>
-<gloss>KK</gloss>

Missed that it doesn't always come after the company name, my bad. I think this use is very common, not sure if sense 2 might have been one position 
too high up but it's definitely not 8/8 in terms of percentage of usage.

I think it was worthwhile to include the glyph ㈱ in the note because searching for it right now (on jisho for example) doesn't turn up anything.

@@ -29 +29 @@
-<gloss>(emoyionally) cold</gloss>
+<gloss>(emotionally) cold</gloss>

@@ -28,0 +29 @@
+<gloss>(emoyionally) cold</gloss>
@@ -32,0 +34 @@
+<gloss>distant</gloss>

I think it's OK.

the "(to the touch)" part could be reworked into a note, if 
somebody's up for it.

daijr

@@ -30,0 +31,2 @@
+<gloss>indifferent</gloss>
+<gloss>unfriendly</gloss>

daij, koj

Kokugos redirect to 逐語訳.

@@ -12 +12,3 @@
-<gloss>verbatim or literal translation</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1422490">逐語訳</xref>
+<gloss>word-for-word translation</gloss>
+<gloss>literal translation</gloss>

daij, koj, gg5, prog

@@ -8,0 +9,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>縹眇</keb>
@@ -20 +23,3 @@
-<gloss>boundlessly wide or vast</gloss>
+<gloss>boundless</gloss>
+<gloss>vast</gloss>
+<gloss>limitless</gloss>
@@ -25 +30,4 @@
-<gloss>dim and indistinct</gloss>
+<gloss>faint</gloss>
+<gloss>hazy</gloss>
+<gloss>dim</gloss>
+<gloss>indistinct</gloss>

Entry created

yes; should be merged

Only in koj, which has it as a redirect

ラジアン	21036
ラディアン	2298

Should be merged with 「ラジアン」

Entry created

@@ -10 +10 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1188760">何時・いつ・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1188760">いつ・1</xref>

@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<re_pri>spec2</re_pri>

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<gloss>how long until</gloss>

I think the "sl" sends the message.

I think it should lead with "fake 
breasts". register

This definitely isn't a technical term and it's not in any dictionary. I think "sl" is appropriate here.

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<misc>&sl;</misc>

偽パイ	469
偽乳	2332
WWW images

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<gloss>artificial breasts</gloss>

https://dic.pixi
v.net/a/%E5%81%B
D%E4%B9%B3
alc

Definitely slang.

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<misc>&col;</misc>
+<misc>&sl;</misc>

偽おっぱい	129
偽パイ	469
偽乳	2332

Could be ぎパイ. Can't find out.

@@ -13,0 +14 @@
+<gloss>artificial breasts</gloss>

https://matome.n
aver.jp/m/odai/2
1476158177585344
01

Reading is 
presumed. Not 
sure whether 偽お
っぱい is more 
common 
https://joshi-
spa.jp/286883

Oops, didn't mean to add adj-t to this entry.

@@ -12 +11,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-t;</pos>

daijr, nikk
G n-grams: No matches

Couldn't be any more obscure. The only example is from a Natsume Sōseki novel.

@@ -11,0 +12,2 @@
+<pos>&adj-t;</pos>
+<misc>&obsc;</misc>
@@ -13 +15 @@
-<gloss>dark atmosphere</gloss>
+<gloss>dark sign</gloss>

daijirin etc 
https://kotobank
.jp/word/%E7%9E%
91%E6%B0%9B-
395520

daijs: "「霊気（れいき）」に同じ"
G n-grams: No matches

@@ -12 +12,4 @@
-<gloss>aura</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1557780">霊気</xref>
+<misc>&obsc;</misc>
+<gloss>mysterious presence</gloss>
+<gloss>aura of mystery</gloss>

digital daijisen
https://kotobank
.jp/word/%E9%9C%
8A%E6%B0%9B-
661191

I'm not fussed, but actual WWW hits are lowish.

https://twitter.com/search?q=神乳&src=typed_query&f=live 
(nsfw)

It's def not obsc - 神 as a n-pref is a pretty recent invention.

@@ -13 +12,0 @@
-<misc>&obsc;</misc>

神乳	63

Not actually that common.

@@ -12,0 +13,2 @@
+<misc>&obsc;</misc>
+<gloss>large breasts</gloss>
@@ -14 +15,0 @@
-<gloss>fantastic breasts</gloss>

ngrams google images

氛氳	No matches

This isn't in koj, daijr or daijs, and there are no matches in the n-grams. The nikk source is from 797 and written in classical Chinese.
I don't think something this obscure and archaic is worth adding to a Japanese-English dictionary.

Daijiten 
https://kotobank
.jp/word/%E6%B0%
9B%E6%B0%B3-
2080859

G n-grams: No matches

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<misc>&obsc;</misc>
@@ -12,0 +14 @@
+<gloss>lively</gloss>

digital daijisen 
https://kotobank
.jp/word/%E6%B0%
A4%E6%B0%B3-
437135

Not in koj, daijr, daijs.

See comments on 2841988. Same reasons.

Daijiten 
https://kotobank
.jp/word/%E5%A6%
96%E6%B0%9B-
2091033

Seems not.

any further comments?

approve & reopen

https://osamuko.com/big-list-of-japanese-mahjong-terminology/ - "A strategy that attempts to win a hand at all costs while ignoring the possibility of dealing into an opponent's hand."

As I understand it, it's not tempering one's discards according to what the opponent may be collecting.

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>going all out even though another player is likely to win the hand</gloss>
+<gloss>going all out without regarding an opponent's hand</gloss>

https://mj-dragon.com/glos/se/zentsuppa.html

This is how I understand it.

Usually you "safe play" by giving up (おりる) and discard only safe tiles (安全牌) for the rest of the hand.

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>?</gloss>
+<gloss>going all out even though another player is likely to win the hand</gloss>

please add dotted versions also

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>スノー・グローブ</reb>

d-daijs: https://kotobank.jp/word/スノーグローブ-542874

I'm not sure it's wasei either but we can move it to a lsrc tag anyway.

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>snow dome</gloss>
+<lsource xml:lang="eng">snow dome</lsource>

koj says it's wasei; i'm not sure about that but "snow dome" is not in any of my dictionaries, and google image search shows that this is overwhelmingly not what is meant by "snow dome" in english

@@ -6,0 +7,3 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>スノー・ドーム</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -8,0 +12 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2841992">スノーグローブ</xref>
@@ -9,0 +14 @@
+<gloss>snow globe</gloss>

d-daijs: https://kotobank.jp/word/スノードーム-542879

I'm prepared to wave this through, but it is VERY marginal. 氛 is virtually unused in Japanese; I think it only got into the JIS 208 standard because it appeared in a place name. The only reference I can find for a word is the New Nelson, where John Haig says it can be used in ふんいき (雰囲気) instead of the usual 雰.
Nicolas, looking for words that use really obscure kanji is a waste of time (yours and ours) which could better be spent identifying and entering more recent and useful words. I'm only accepting this because of the 日本国語大辞典 entry. Don't take it as an encouragement to pursue this approach.

I saw 氛 as a 
suggestion in my IME, 
noticed JMdict had no 
words using this 
kanji and looked it 
up on Kotobank. 
That's how I found 
these terms.

I'm not opposed in principle to adding archaic terms here, but if a word is so obscure that even the most comprehensive kokugo dictionaries ignore it, I think we need a higher threshold. There's no end to the number of obscure archaic words you can find by sifting through dictionaries and kanbun texts. The overwhelming majority of them will be of no use to anyone (probably never looked up once). However, stumbling across an old word while reading Japanese literature might be a good reason for adding it. I'd be interested to know how Nicolas found this one.
Without JE dictionaries to refer to, it can be quite challenging (and time consuming) to come up with good, accurate translations for these words. It's probably not the best use of our time to be reviewing them unless there's a reason to believe they could be helpful.
I don't want us to be a situation where we have a constant backlog of super obscure archaic words in the pending submissions queue.

Maybe we need to decide if we maybe want to draw the line somewhere. For example, do we really need/want Old Japanese (上代日
本語) in jmdict? Since the nikk usage was from 796 this particular word would qualify as Early Middle Japanese (中古日本語, 
794-1185), though.

nikkoku, kanjigen

resubmitting entry from Nicholas that was rejected.

IMO, something being archaic/obscure is no reason for it to be rejected as long as there are solid kokugo references for it.  that's why the [arch] tag exists (now added)

nikk: "わざわいをおよぼす気。悪気。妖気。"
kanjigen: "よくないことがおこりそうなあやしい気配。ぶきみな雰囲気"

Those glosses weren't right. The 悪気 in the nikk definition is あっき, not わるぎ. Kanjigen redirects to 妖気.
This is part of the reason I feel we're wasting our time with entries like this. Writing glosses is not a trivial task. Our efforts are better spent on words that people are actually going to see. Like 氛氳, this probably doesn't exist outside of kanbun.

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1818800">妖気</xref>
@@ -13,3 +14,3 @@
-<gloss>malice</gloss>
-<gloss>evil intent</gloss>
-<gloss>ill will</gloss>
+<gloss>ominous air</gloss>
+<gloss>weird air</gloss>
+<gloss>menacing atmosphere</gloss>

https://kotobank.jp/word/妖氛-2091033

I'm comfortable with this approach.

nikk, kanjigen

resubmitting another of Nicholas's rejected entries

the reason i started working on edict in the first place was because i was translating some akutagawa & soseki stuff and i could not find a japanese-english dictionary that had some of the old words i was finding.  i was using kokugos to make my own list of translated words and then i discovered that i could share them by submitting to edict

IMO, the archaic stuff is exactly where edict excels over GG5.  so i would prefer to allow in archaic words so long as they are backed up by solid kokugo references and marked as [arch]

志を同じく	19480
志を同じくする	16806
志を同じくして	1093
GG5 examples too.

Almost always with する/して. Often prenominal.

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<pos>&vs-i;</pos>

https://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=志を同じく

Also an example in 大辞林 大辞泉

daijr/s as well

jwiki

lots of examples on the web

Adding spec1
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>

I don't think the Romanized Russian works here.

@@ -13 +12,0 @@
-<gloss>Na dne</gloss>

* GG5
* daijs
* enwki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lower_Depths