gg5, prog, daij

Reordered the senses. I'll update the sentences.

@@ -11,0 +12,6 @@
+<gloss>rear</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>background</gloss>
+<gloss>backdrop</gloss>
@@ -22,11 +28,2 @@
-<gloss>background</gloss>
-<gloss>backdrop</gloss>
-<gloss>background colour (color)</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<field>&sports;</field>
-<gloss>backhand</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>backing</gloss>
+<gloss>support</gloss>
@@ -42,0 +40,2 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1098870">バックストローク</xref>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
@@ -43,0 +43,7 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1098970">バックハンド</xref>
+<field>&sports;</field>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
+<gloss>backhand</gloss>

@@ -16 +16 @@
-<gloss>backing</gloss>
+<gloss>backing (up)</gloss>

OK, drop it.

@@ -11 +10,0 @@
-<s_inf>also ベット</s_inf>

given that there's a separate entry for ベット now, is the note needed?  i don't think we normally use a note in such a case

I think the Daijirin entry tips the balance towards making it an entry. It's not a simple "ik" like バッグ/バック.
BTW, look at:
キャリーバッグ	217873
キャリーバック	68910
クラッチバッグ	27819
クラッチバック	5086
I hadn't realised it was so common.

@@ -9,4 +8,0 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ベット</reb>
-<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
-</r_ele>
@@ -14,0 +11 @@
+<s_inf>also ベット</s_inf>

I'm not 100% convinced it should be a separate entry. I think it's the same thing as バッグ/バック and ドッグ/ドック- in this 
case, it happens to be an entry in daijr as being German-derived, OK, but the regular usage is probably just a 
mispronunciation.

daijr
https://uranaru.jp/topic/1029976
https://thirties-library.jp/e1409905000/#outline__5

To my surprise, it's not actually irregular. ベット comes from German. Daijr has it. It should be a separate entry.

@@ -17 +17 @@
-<gloss>reach (advertising)</gloss>
+<gloss>reach (in advertising)</gloss>

daij, meikyo

@@ -9,0 +10,5 @@
+<field>&sports;</field>
+<gloss>reach (in boxing, tennis, etc.)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -11 +16,2 @@
-<gloss>reach</gloss>
+<pos>&vi;</pos>
+<gloss>reach (advertising)</gloss>

While I'm here I'll split this as they come from different English source words.

@@ -13,4 +12,0 @@
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<gloss>leech</gloss>
-</sense>

リーチ	956093
リーチし	15483
リーチする	6409

https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/7159363?hl=ja
バンパー広告は、簡潔で印象的なメッセージを使用してより多くのユーザーにリーチし

https://www.san-an.co.jp/media/business.html
ビジネスマンにリーチしたい

n-gram counts are a bit low (relatively), but I'd wager that the [vs] usage has become more common now. Counts may also be conflated with the mahjong term 立直.

@@ -9,0 +10 @@
+<pos>&vs;</pos>

Meikyo vt and vi additions to n,vs entries
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -16,0 +17 @@
+<pos>&vi;</pos>

大辞泉

@@ -15 +15,2 @@
-<pos>&n-adv;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&vs;</pos>

I'll close this now as it's not had any responses.

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<misc>&obsc;</misc>
@@ -16,0 +18 @@
+<misc>&obsc;</misc>

Unidic - has it as a morpheme.
WWW hits often for "偽兵の計".
https://twitter.com/hashtag/偽兵の計
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/articles/1610/28/news051.html
https://ncode.syosetu.com/n2714co/204/  <- second sense

Improvements welcome.

@@ -12 +12,6 @@
-<gloss>dummy soldier</gloss>
+<gloss>dummy supporters (e.g. for sports team)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<field>&mil;</field>
+<gloss>dummy soldiers (e.g. left behind when evacuating)</gloss>

not in koj.

if kept, i think it should be reglossed to be more clear or additional glosses or an expl should be added.  i saw the english gloss before the headword, and i thought "dummy" meant "idiot", but that's clearly not what it means if the headword is 偽

ngrams
偽兵	79

is this in koj or somewhere? it's not in daij/nikk (on kotobank at least)
if it's kept, should it be "dummy soldier" (singular)?

@@ -12 +12 @@
-<gloss>dummy soldiers</gloss>
+<gloss>dummy soldier</gloss>

Can't see the point of that xref.

@@ -29 +28,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1228130">及ばない</xref>
@@ -48 +47 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2181860">には及ばない</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2181860">には及ばない・1</xref>

@@ -48 +48 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1228130">及ばない</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2181860">には及ばない</xref>

@@ -24 +24 @@
-<gloss>to go on for/until</gloss>
+<gloss>to go on (for, until)</gloss>

大辞泉 + 大辞林

「五時間に―・ぶ討論」
「会議はしばしば深夜に－・んだ」

@@ -23,0 +24 @@
+<gloss>to go on for/until</gloss>

@@ -48 +48,2 @@
-<gloss>to require (to do) (usu. used in the negative)</gloss>
+<s_inf>usu. used in the negative</s_inf>
+<gloss>to require (to do)</gloss>

I don't like "to explain clearly and carefully". Too wordy.
It's not always telling someone *to do* something. e.g. "彼は息子に事の重大さをこんこんと言い聞かせた.　He repeatedly advised his son on the seriousness of the situation."

@@ -23,4 +23,2 @@
-<gloss>to persuade</gloss>
-<gloss>to instruct</gloss>
-<gloss>to explain clearly and carefully</gloss>
-<gloss>to tell (a person to do)</gloss>
+<gloss>to tell</gloss>
+<gloss>to (try to) persuade</gloss>

GG5, etc.

We usually try and avoid that style, instead ordering the glosses to give the relevant emphasis and nuance.

@@ -23 +23,2 @@
-<gloss>to tell (making sure that the listener understands)</gloss>
+<gloss>to persuade</gloss>
+<gloss>to instruct</gloss>
@@ -24,0 +26 @@
+<gloss>to tell (a person to do)</gloss>
@@ -29,2 +30,0 @@
-<gloss>to persuade</gloss>
-<gloss>to instruct</gloss>

daijs

(try to) convince, assure could fit

@@ -23 +23,2 @@
-<gloss>to tell</gloss>
+<gloss>to tell (making sure that the listener understands)</gloss>
+<gloss>to explain clearly and carefully</gloss>

closing.  can be raised on the mailing list if needed

i mean our other option is to nuke the majority of these の entries altogether and just expect readers to know that が may be replaced by の when used prenominally

Xのadjい expressions are always prenominal. Only in relative clauses can が can be replaced with の.
The issue is that we have nothing on these entries to indicate that. The glosses and PoS tags on 住み心地が良い and 住み心地の良い are the same.

住み心地のよい	6594
住み心地のよかった	88
住み心地のよくない	23
住み心地がよい	692   <- not an entry
住み心地がよかった	215
住み心地がよくない	98

I agree that the Xのadjい are usually prenominal and inflect far less often than their equivalent Xがadjい brethren, but I think that where possible this should be reflected in their respective translations. Phrases like these ending in an adjective are more likely to be prenominal or sentence-ending. It's probably more a grammar point than something that should be tagged.
I'll close this for now to shorten the list.

i could be wrong, but if memory serves, i think we used [exp,adj-f] for these at one point, or at least the argument has been raised before.  the problem is that the inflection isn't handled correctly. i guess we could call them [exp,adj-f,adj-i] but it seems excessive

dunno what to do but i agree that it would be better if we could indicate that all of these are used prenominally

Meikyo vt and vi additions to n,vs entries
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -18,0 +19 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos>

gg5, prog, daij

@@ -18,0 +19,2 @@
+<gloss>speaking about (one's thoughts, memories, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>relating (one's feelings, reminiscences, etc.)</gloss>
@@ -19,0 +22 @@
+<gloss>reminiscence</gloss>

gg5

@@ -14,2 +14 @@
-<gloss>to push in between</gloss>
-<gloss>to interrupt (conversation, quarrel)</gloss>
+<gloss>to push in (between)</gloss>
@@ -16,0 +16,2 @@
+<gloss>to interrupt (a conversation, quarrel, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>to intervene</gloss>

GG5, 中辞典

@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+<gloss>to step in (between)</gloss>

大辞林
https://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=割って入る

@@ -13 +13,3 @@
-<gloss>to force one's way through</gloss>
+<gloss>to wedge one's way in</gloss>
+<gloss>to push in between</gloss>
+<gloss>to interrupt (conversation, quarrel)</gloss>

@@ -10,0 +11 @@
+<pos>&exp;</pos>

In that case, I think it's useful to have the corresponding reading tagged as irregular as well.

@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>

Probably best to revert to the old restrictions and keep it as the one entry.

@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+<re_restr>二段ベッド</re_restr>
@@ -16 +17 @@
-<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
+<re_restr>二段ベット</re_restr>

With にだんベット hidden, 二段ベット needs to be hidden as well. Otherwise the reading is wrong. If we want it to be visible, I think it should be a separate entry.

Both forms get a ton of hits on twitter.

daijr:   ベット〖ドイツ Bett〗⇨ベッド
gg5:     ベット　＝ベッド.
nikk:    ベッド〘名〙 （英bed）｟ベット｠…
smk:     ベッド〔bed〕寝台。ベットとも。…
sankoku: ベッド｟名｠〔bed〕…〔なまって、ベット〕

https://dic.pixiv.net/a/ホットドック
>> ホットドック
>>『ホットドッ“グ”』の誤記。
>> ドイツ語やオランダ語で語尾の「b,d,g」を「p,t,k」と発音するのにつられてできた発音間違いと思われるが、これは英語由来の外来語。
>> ちなみに「ベッド」は、ドイツ語では「ベット(Bett)」で綴りも違うが、オランダ語では「ベット(Bed)」。

The German connection is from daijirin, although none of the other refs mention it. The quoted pixiv entry hints at some possible Dutch influence.

I think the irregular tag might be too strong considering how common the form is and how many sources acknowledge it. Probably not a big deal either way.

I think Marcus is correct. The reading can be hidden.

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&ik;</ke_inf>
@@ -12 +12,0 @@
-<re_restr>二段ベッド</re_restr>
@@ -16 +16 @@
-<re_restr>二段ベット</re_restr>
+<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>

With these new glosses, I don't think the note is needed.

@@ -17 +16,0 @@
-<s_inf>not used for individuals</s_inf>

I see GG5 has "(each)" plugged into each gloss, which is messy but I guess it gets the message across.
ルミナス has "なんでも思い思いのことをしてよい You can do just as you like", which is a bit ambiguous.

@@ -17,3 +17,4 @@
-<gloss>just as one likes</gloss>
-<gloss>as one pleases</gloss>
-<gloss>as one prefers</gloss>
+<s_inf>not used for individuals</s_inf>
+<gloss>just as (each) one likes</gloss>
+<gloss>as (each) one pleases</gloss>
+<gloss>as (each) one prefers</gloss>

大辞泉: めいめいが...
大辞林: 人々がそれぞれ...

The point was that you cannot use this for one person. It is always multiple people.

Daijr, GG5, etc.

Sorry, but those suggestions are not clear English phrases to me. I'm putting the originals back, and adding another (from GG5).

@@ -17,3 +17,4 @@
-<gloss>each as one likes</gloss>
-<gloss>each as one pleases</gloss>
-<gloss>each as one prefers</gloss>
+<gloss>just as one likes</gloss>
+<gloss>as one pleases</gloss>
+<gloss>as one prefers</gloss>
+<gloss>(each) in one's own way</gloss>

gg5

https://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=選択権

@@ -12 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>choice</gloss>
+<gloss>right to choose</gloss>
+<gloss>a say</gloss>

Fair point. I'll drop it.

@@ -10 +9,0 @@
-<s_inf>pronounced お in modern Japanese</s_inf>

I don't think this is necessary. Unlike へ　and は, を's pronunciation doesn't change depending on usage. Also, を is still pronounced "wo" in some dialects.

Yes, to be consistent.

@@ -9,0 +10 @@
+<s_inf>pronounced お in modern Japanese</s_inf>

Should this have a note, similar to notes for the particles は and へ, that it is pronounced お in modern Japanese?

Many, and probably most, of the entries for particles have these sorts of explanatory "translations". We may get to some more usage-note system eventually.

@@ -18,0 +19 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2842102">宣う</xref>

https://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/のたまう

Forgot about inflection. Shinmeikai and Wiktionary have 宣う/曰う as v5u.
I'll create a new entry. This one can be tagged as arch.

@@ -19 +18,0 @@
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -21 +20 @@
-<s_inf>originally respectful language; nowadays oft. used sarcastically</s_inf>
+<misc>&arch;</misc>
@@ -23 +21,0 @@
-<gloss>to be pleased to say</gloss>

It depends on inflection. If 宣う and 曰う are v4h too then they should be here, but if they are v5u they need their own entry.
From what I can see the kokugos are treating them as equivalents. The electronic editions of 広辞苑 and 大辞林 just map 宣う to the 宣ふ entry.
I'd be interested in Rene's view on this.

daij, koj
宣ふ	1169
曰ふ	4300
宣う	11138
曰う	4726

Shouldn't we have 宣う and 曰う here as well?
Added reading.
Added usage note.

@@ -12,0 +13,3 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>のたもう</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -14,0 +18 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
@@ -16 +20,2 @@
-<misc>&pol;</misc>
+<misc>&hon;</misc>
+<s_inf>originally respectful language; nowadays oft. used sarcastically</s_inf>
@@ -18 +23 @@
-<gloss>to be pleased to say (hint of sarcasm)</gloss>
+<gloss>to be pleased to say</gloss>

〈寝／ね〉〈付（き）／つき〉が〈良／い／よ〉い

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーー─┬───────┬───────╮
│ 寝つきがいい │ 3,700 │ 35.8% │
│ 寝つきが良い │ 3,080 │ 29.8% │ - sK
│ 寝付きがいい │ 1,798 │ 17.4% │ - sK
│ 寝付がいい　 │     0 │  0.0% │ - sK
│ 寝付きが良い │   854 │  8.3% │ - move up (to make all kanji visible)
│ 寝つきがよい │   647 │  6.3% │ - sK
│ 寝付きがよい │   205 │  2.0% │ - sK
│ ねつきがいい │    53 │  0.5% │
╰─ーーーーーー─┴───────┴───────╯

@@ -7,0 +8,3 @@
+<keb>寝付きが良い</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -8,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11,0 +16 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -15,3 +20 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>寝付きが良い</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -20,0 +24 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -23,0 +28 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -27,5 +31,0 @@
-<re_restr>寝つきがいい</re_restr>
-<re_restr>寝つきが良い</re_restr>
-<re_restr>寝付きがいい</re_restr>
-<re_restr>寝付がいい</re_restr>
-<re_restr>寝付きが良い</re_restr>
@@ -35 +34,0 @@
-<re_restr>寝つきが良い</re_restr>
@@ -37,2 +35,0 @@
-<re_restr>寝つきがよい</re_restr>
-<re_restr>寝付きがよい</re_restr>

@@ -44 +43,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1360000">寝つき</xref>

Shouldn't be glossed as a verb.

@@ -45,3 +45,2 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2827755">寝つきが良い・ねつきがよい</xref>
-<gloss>to find it easy to fall asleep</gloss>
-<gloss>to sleep well</gloss>
+<gloss>falling asleep easily</gloss>
+<gloss>finding it easy to fall asleep</gloss>

Thank you.

@@ -12 +11,0 @@
-<misc>&hum;</misc>
@@ -17,0 +17 @@
+<misc>&hum;</misc>

Entry created

GG5

@@ -10,0 +11 @@
+<pos>&exp;</pos>
@@ -12,0 +14 @@
+<gloss>everlasting rest</gloss>

Typo in the reading.

@@ -8 +8 @@
-<reb>えいえいんのねむり</reb>
+<reb>えいえんのねむり</reb>

daijs

No comments for some time. I'm putting it back the way it was, with a small expansion.

@@ -20,2 +20,3 @@
-<gloss>left with no chance to appeal someone's (sharp) reply</gloss>
-<gloss>left with no way to continue the conversation (due to the other party's curt refusal)</gloss>
+<gloss>left utterly helpless (e.g. by a curt reply or refusal)</gloss>
+<gloss>have no one to turn to</gloss>
+<gloss>unapproachable</gloss>

These are rather literal translations of the Daijirin explanations, and I don't think they work that well. I really prefer what we have now. which matches the 取りつく島もない entry.

大辞林
http://yourei.jp/取り付く島

It's used when someone rejects what you ask so sharply that you have no way to appeal.

@@ -20,3 +20,2 @@
-<gloss>left utterly helpless</gloss>
-<gloss>have no one to turn to</gloss>
-<gloss>unapproachable</gloss>
+<gloss>left with no chance to appeal someone's (sharp) reply</gloss>
+<gloss>left with no way to continue the conversation (due to the other party's curt refusal)</gloss>

Aligning.

@@ -20,0 +21,2 @@
+<gloss>left utterly helpless</gloss>
+<gloss>have no one to turn to</gloss>

ベッドカバー	72692
ベットカバー	13669

Common enough to include.

@@ -9,0 +10,8 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ベットカバー</reb>
+<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ベット・カバー</reb>
+<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>

GG5, etc.

2.3M hits.

Yes, this is a bit broader.

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>to put oneself in (a situation, environment)</gloss>
+<gloss>to put oneself in (situation, environment, etc.)</gloss>

https://weblio.jp/content/身を置く
https://ejje.weblio.jp/sentence/content/"身を置"

@@ -13,4 +13,2 @@
-<gloss>to put oneself in</gloss>
-<gloss>to enter</gloss>
-<gloss>to serve (e.g. in the army)</gloss>
-<gloss>to be enlisted</gloss>
+<gloss>to put oneself in (a situation, environment)</gloss>
+<gloss>to surround oneself with</gloss>

GG5

@@ -15,0 +15,2 @@
+<gloss>to serve (e.g. in the army)</gloss>
+<gloss>to be enlisted</gloss>

eij
http://careerhack.en-japan.com/report/detail/55
"「大企業に身を置くことが、致命的なリスクになる」"
used in 24 daijs entries, for example:
"か‐りゅう【渦流】
渦巻く流れ。「時代の―に身を置く」"

I think so.

koj: "太平洋戦争中、敵国の言葉として排斥・追放しようとした、主に英語単語。"
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/敵性語

Worth including? I've only ever seen it used in this context.

@@ -12 +12 @@
-<gloss>language of the enemy</gloss>
+<gloss>language of the enemy (esp. English in Japan during WWII)</gloss>

wiki (mentions "敵声語" as an ateji)

GG5

Doing the adj-ix/adj-i fixup.

G n-grams:
寝つきがいい	3700
寝付きがいい	1798
寝付がいい	No matches
寝つきが良い	3080
寝つきがよい	647
寝付きが良い	854
寝付きがよい	205

Better have this 良い form too.

daijr: "国の前途。国の運命。"

I don't think "state"/"condition" is a good translation.

@@ -13,2 +13,2 @@
-<gloss>state of a country</gloss>
-<gloss>condition of a country</gloss>
+<gloss>prospects of a country</gloss>
+<gloss>outlook for a country</gloss>

G n-grams: 国歩	390

koj, daijr, daijs, nikk: https://kotobank.jp/word/国歩-499789
国歩	390
Used once in BCCWJ, hence obsc

@@ -10,0 +11 @@
+<pos>&exp;</pos>

Daijr, ＫＯＤ追加語彙

Wiki
Digital daijisen

Daijr, ＫＯＤ追加語彙

@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>グリーンン・カーテン</reb>

Digital daijisen

Problem with stray UTF character.

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>破壊率​</keb>
+<keb>破壊率</keb>

https://ejje.weblio.jp/content/破壊率
破壊率	2291

I don't think it's 2 senses.

@@ -13,3 +12,0 @@
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>

JST, 
crosslanguage 
https://ejje.web
lio.jp/content/%
E7%A0%B4%E5%A3%8
A%E7%8E%87

Split from 1140630. Not common, but a couple of WWW sites use it.

凶星	10044

大辞林

GG5, 中辞典

https://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=金メダリスト

@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1633450">縮こまる・ちぢこまる</xref>

daij, meikyo
G n-grams:
縮こめる	17
縮こめ	46

gg5, shinmeikai
https://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/のたまう

From 2055480.

Some bad utf8 got in.

@@ -12 +12 @@
-<gloss>United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change​</gloss>
+<gloss>United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change</gloss>

I guess we need some sort of label for these.

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