I sometimes check twitter for mentions of jmdict/jisho and I've noticed that this entry frequently comes up for discussion. It's apparent there's a sizable contingent of anime/manga fans who are into "lolicon content" that are adamant that being sexually attracted to prepubescent girls is a completely different thing from pedophilia. I don't know anything about Kevin in particular and am certainly not accusing him of anything, but I think we need to be aware there are a lot of people online who are very strongly opposed to "ロリコン" being defined as "pedophile" solely because it makes them feel personally attacked. Here's an example of a recent (June 24) Twitter thread where you can see how this usually plays out: https://twitter.com/COEofTypo/status/1539386476537970689 (there's a lot of replies but here's one that leads into this discussion of our definition as it appeared at the time on Jisho: https://twitter.com/ElFazendobarra/status/1539858524548632576 )

The argument that people on Twitter are making (that it seems Kevin is similarly arguing for) is that "ロリコン" should not be translated as "pedophile" because there are other words in Japanese that are also translated as "pedophilia/pedophile" and there is a distinction between those words (ペドフィリア/小児性愛 etc.) and ロリコン. While this is no doubt true, that it's only ロリコン that is used self-referentially, this doesn't mean that glosses like "male pedophile" or "male pedophilia" don't also belong here. We are not only concerned with getting the nuance right but also conveying the actual meaning of the word. Kevin changed "male pedophilia" to "sexual attraction to young girls" and "male pedophile" to "male with such an attraction", but are these really closer in nuance and meaning to ロリコン or just wordier and wafflier ways of saying the exact same things? That's a rhetorical question - it's obvious to me its the latter. It's hairsplitting. Look up the definitions of "pedophile" and "pedophilia" in any English dictionary. Notice also that ALL the kokugo definitions for ロリコン mention "性欲" - that an otaku-dominated wiki site like pixiv disagrees ("特別な感情" is what they call it) seems entirely irrelevant to me. This isn't a case of "Western bias", it's a case of looking at reliable sources instead of user-generated content.

I agree that "lolicon" rather than "male pedophile" should lead, for nuance etc. reasons, but that word will be meaningless to a lot of people, so we need to also include glosses that pithily explain what this actually means. We always strive for the most economical definitions so why exactly is it that we shouldn't call a spade a spade here?

Another point about the other reference Kevin posted is a blog post written by a person calling himself "初老のオタ" and the argument he is making is that ロリコン IS in fact used to refer to male pedophiles/pedophilia in Japanese media but that he finds this usage "wrong" because he has personally somewhat convolutedly decided that a "ロリコン" is somebody who is "sexually or romantically attracted to underage girls but doesn't necessarily want to act on it in real life" and that a ペド on the other hand is somebody whose "ultimate purpose" (最終目的) is to have sex with underage girls:

"ロリコン、ペド、チャイルド・マレスター……
これらの違いが曖昧な日本ならではの報道だなぁと。
...
少女・幼女に対し性的嗜好や恋愛感情を持つ事で、
最終的目標が性交の有無であるか否かは関係ありません。
...
●ロリは必ずしも性交を最終目的とはしておらず、
　ペドは性交を最終目的としている。"

We should really not be concerned with what "otaku purists" consider the correct use of the word (which by the way still would translate into "male pedophile" in English) but with how it's actually used in mainstream Japanese society. For more on that, see the multiple links I've previously posted.

@@ -10,0 +11 @@
+<s_inf>oft. used self-referentially</s_inf>
@@ -12,2 +13,2 @@
-<gloss>(often sexual) attraction to young girls</gloss>
-<gloss>male (sexually) attracted to young girls</gloss>
+<gloss>male pedophile</gloss>
+<gloss>male pedophilia</gloss>

I missed this, apologies. Kevin, welcome to JMDict. We always appreciate input on definitions but the multiple accusations of "cultural ignorance", "Western bias", "chauvinism", "strangeness" and  "glibness" are not at all appropriate and if you wish to continue participating in the discussion on how we should define this word, I would hope you would afford other editors more respect than you've done so far. I've changed "male with _such_ an attraction" to "male (sexually) attracted to young girls" because style-wise, we try to avoid glosses that explicitly refer to previous ones. I don't have time right now but I will try and revisit this at a later date as I'm not sure I fully agree with the changes made.

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>a male with such an attraction</gloss>
+<gloss>male (sexually) attracted to young girls</gloss>

Hmm. I guess this covers Marcus' view on  "male pedophile" and "male pedophilia" references.

Kevin's case and amendments seem sound but I'd like to see Marcus's response before approving.

日本の場合、ロリコンとペドフィリアが混同され、日常語としての「ペドフィリア」は、ロリコンに比べて病的・犯罪的ニュアンスを伴って使用される場合が多い。(wiki)

現在では幼い少女を性的に好んでいる人のことを指して使われることが多いが、本来ロリータ・コンプレックスとは性的な意味合いは薄く、（異性愛の）女性がロリータ・コンプレックスであるということも大いにありえる。本来は対象は「美」少女に限らない。(pixiv)

https://dic.pixiv.net/a/ロリコン

A whole blog post on the subject:
http://yamatoasuka02.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-762.html?sp

Video series on the topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=lETPaGnl2aI&ab_channel=PauseandSelect

Many of the references given by others below, despite their intentions, clearly imply a distinction between the concepts of lolicon and pedophilia. Some of them, such as the Wiki quote, literally state that they are different concepts. Despite this, this same reference was somehow used to justify including the gloss of "pedophile"? Truly strange, and obviously Western bias.

The pixiv article clearly states that lolicon is not necessarily sexual, which is not something that can be said about the different concept of pedophilia. Indeed, the very fact that "pedophilia" has entered the Japanese lexicon in katakana implies a core difference.

The blog article I provide underscores the fact that this is, at best, a debated topic. The current entry glibly sides with one side of this "debate" in a way that is unscholarly. Japan has a big cultural preference for the young and 未熟, and understanding that at a deep level is essential to understanding why it's inappropriate to glibly label lolicon to be pedophilia.

Honestly, they are quite obviously similar but different concepts, and it's culturally ignorant and chauvinistic to include this gloss.

@@ -12,3 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>sexual attraction to young girls</gloss>
-<gloss>male pedophilia</gloss>
-<gloss>male pedophile</gloss>
+<gloss>(often sexual) attraction to young girls</gloss>
+<gloss>a male with such an attraction</gloss>

https://nikkan-spa.jp/1481525
小児性愛は病気なのか？人口の5％いる彼らの犯罪を防ぐには
さらに、週刊誌報道によると、「中学生時代は遊び相手といえば小さな子どもだった」「いつも小さな子にベタベタと接する」といった記事もあり、今回の事件もいわゆる「ロリコン」――小児性愛者による犯
罪で、しかも、再犯だったと見られる。
...
まず、「ロリコン」とも言われる小児性愛は“病気”なのだろうか？
this article treats ロリコン as a colloquial term for 小児性愛者/小児性愛 (pedophile/pedophilia)

https://www.kadokawa.co.jp/product/301509001364/
"幼児性愛病者（ロリコン）の魔法を完全に解くことができず、10歳の子供と18歳の大人姿の二重生活をしながら王宮に勤めるリーフィア。"
as does this one

https://www.cocolabo.me/loli-com/
"世の中には社会的に認められない欲望というものがあります。その中の一つとして割とメジャーなものが「子どもへの性的欲求」いわゆる「ロリコン」です。
精神医学的には、13歳以下の子どもへ性的欲求を持つことを「幼児性愛」（ペドフェリア）と呼びます。（参考：小児性愛障害-MSDマニュアル）"
and this one

https://www.mag2.com/p/money/1076497
"ロリコン犯罪の温床「性的同意年齢13歳」をすぐに引き上げよ。親の貧困化とSNSも要因、少年少女の性暴力被害者増加＝鈴木傾城"

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/195397d3006e3ef705118829b4e31f779a8068eb
《少女わいせつ》前科3犯・ロリコン容疑者の卑劣な手口と、実母が涙で語る“性依存の闇”
"すでに仕事を引退し、いまは農業を営む両親。40歳近くにもなって自立せず、性犯罪を繰り返すロリコン息子についてどう考えているのか。"
　"改めて翌日、自宅にいる母親を訪ねてみた。すると、
「本当にすみません……。もうどうしていいのか……。息子は完全に（性犯罪の）依存症です……」"

https://www.excite.co.jp/news/article/Tocana_201805_post_16895/
週刊誌記者によると「自宅へのガサ入れで幼児性愛者である証拠品が押収されたとの情報もある。やはりロリコンの線は消せない」という。

https://friday.kodansha.co.jp/article/10174
新潟少女殺害死体遺棄事件 「ロリコン性欲者」小林遼容疑者野放し

https://bunshun.jp/articles/-/29765
子どもへの性加害は「平均週2～3回」小児性犯罪者のすさまじい実態
「そりゃセックスもしましたよ。恋人同士ですもん。それを周りの人たちが、ぶち壊したんです。私がロリコンで、Yちゃんは被害者だといって引き離したんです。
　私はそんな人達によって犯罪者にさせられました。おかしいのはどっちだっていいたいです……」
　これは、12歳の少女に性加害をした49歳の男性の言葉である。

https://somec.org/activity2012.html
"「小児性愛は日本では『ロリコン』など好みの一種とされ、治療が受けにくい状況だ。治せる疾患という認識を社会が共有し、加害者をなくす道を広げるべきだ」と話す。"

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/11ef2d546dd9c5be5d70e3a7eb861825eaed35de
3月場所中「16歳の少女」になりすまし11歳女児を…ロリコン力士の巧妙かつ卑劣な手口

https://dot.asahi.com/webdoku/2017060700082.html
ロリコン大国ニッポン 「アメリカだったら児童ポルノ扱い」

jawiki:ペドフィリア
日本の場合、ロリコンとペドフィリアが混同され、日常語としての「ペドフィリア」は、ロリコンに比べて病的・犯罪的ニュアンスを伴って使用される場合が多い。

https://www.police.pref.wakayama.lg.jp/01_anzen/syonen/kanren/index.html
児童ポルノとは、児童（18歳未満の少年。以下同じ。）を性欲の対象にした、児童のわいせつな画像(写真や動画など)のことをいいます。世間では、「ロリコン」といった呼び方で、児童ポルノを成人向けア
ダルト製品と見る風潮があります。しかしその本質は、児童に対する性犯罪・性的虐待の記録にほかなりません。
Here's a page from the Wakayama Prefectrual police explicitly saying that "lolicon" is the same thing as child pornography.



https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2019-08-09/.149914
English language discussion where a manga translator suggests "pedophile" can't be the correct translation for ロリコン because the word "ペドファイル" (a pretty rare word 
in Japanese) exists. I disagree.


Daijs: "幼女・少女にのみ性欲を感じる異常心理"
Daijr: "性愛の対象を少女にのみ求める心理"
Koj: "性的対象として少女・幼女を愛すること。"
Shinjirin: "性愛の対象を少女にのみ求める心理。"
Nikk: "男性が、性愛の対象として少女に偏執すること。"

I think it's remiss to not include the glosses "male pedophile" and "male pedophilia". It's obvious that in Japan, this is how the word is used.

@@ -13 +13,2 @@
-<gloss>person attracted to young girls</gloss>
+<gloss>male pedophilia</gloss>
+<gloss>male pedophile</gloss>

Reopen.

Perhaps this addresses Marcus' point? I'll approve and reopen.

@@ -12 +12 @@
-<gloss>attraction to young girls</gloss>
+<gloss>sexual attraction to young girls</gloss>

Chanced upon this headline just now:
少女買春ロリコン大富豪のジェフリー・エプスタイン逮
捕で新世界秩序の予定が狂う!? 陰謀の世界が大混乱… 
モサドが全方位で暗躍中！

daijr: 性愛の対象を少女にのみ求める心理。
nikk:男性が、性愛の対象として少女に偏執すること。
daijs: 幼女・少女にのみ性欲を感じる異常心理。

I agree 1 sense is actually better, but 
the previous glosses "male pedophile" and 
"male sexually attracted to prepubescent 
girls" align much closer with what's in 
the kokugos. The new glosses on the other 
hand skip out on the "性愛／性欲” part 
(which is in all 3 kokugos) and on the "男
性が、” in nikk. So I don't see how that's 
an improvement.

reopen

english wikipedia

i don't think it's sexist, but i agree that it's too limited.  also, i don't think it's two senses.  we usually put the person in together with the action, etc.

i'm temp approving because i think the existing entry is clearly not right

the proposed "definition" is not appropriate for a japanese-english dictionary

@@ -9,7 +8,0 @@
-<misc>&abbr;</misc>
-<gloss>lolicon</gloss>
-<gloss>male pedophile</gloss>
-<gloss>male sexually attracted to prepubescent girls</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -19 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>male pedophilia</gloss>
+<gloss>attraction to young girls</gloss>
+<gloss>person attracted to young girls</gloss>

The definition of "lolicon" is 
problematic, and I'd like to persuade you 
to update it since it is misinformation 
and sexist.

The definition erroneously uses the 
definition of male paedophile. A 
paedophile is the attraction to 
prepubescent individuals, and pedophilia 
is the attraction itself to prepubescent 
individuals. The term "Lolita" comes from 
the novel and is only about an early 
adolescence girl. Lolita was depicted as 
12 in the novel, and 14 in the film. 99% 
of the depictions of fictional minors in 
the lolicon genre have small breasts. 
Prepubescent children don't have breasts. 
They're flat as a board.

The shotacon entry doesn't say "female 
pedophile". This is sexist because it 
implies only men can have attractions to 
minors. Women can be attracted to female 
and/or male minors and men can be 
attracted to male minors.

Here is my proposed updated definition 
with better parity to shotacon:

ロリコン (lolicon) sometimes shortened to 
ロリ (loli), is a Japanese slang 
portmanteau of the phrase "lolita complex" 
and describes an attraction to early 
adolescent girls, or an individual with 
such an attraction, although it has become 
a blanket term to refer to any minor 
attracted person/attraction to a minor. 
Outside Japan, the term is used less often 
with this meaning, and is used to refer to 
a genre of manga and anime wherein mostly 
preadolescent or early adolescent female 
characters are depicted in a suggestive or 
erotic manner.

daij　gg5 jawiki
Daij and jawiki say "lolita complex" is wasei. Enwiki has 
no article on "lolita complex", only on "lolicon" 
(interestingly, that page does not show up in Google 
searches)

I don't think ロリ and ロリコン should be the same entry. 
Splitting out ロリ
_
Based on enwiki, it seems "lolicon" can refer both to 
the "phenomenon" and the "person" in English. I think 
the English term refers esp. to a

@@ -7,3 +7,7 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ロリ</reb>
-</r_ele>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
+<gloss>lolicon</gloss>
+<gloss>male pedophile</gloss>
+<gloss>male sexually attracted to prepubescent girls</gloss>
+</sense>
@@ -13 +16,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2399250">小児性愛者</xref>
@@ -15,5 +18,2 @@
-<gloss>Lolita complex (sexual attraction to children, esp. young girls)</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
-<gloss>portraying children in an erotic style</gloss>
+<gloss>lolicon</gloss>
+<gloss>male pedophilia</gloss>

I'll align the ロリータコンプレックス and ロリ glosses.

I don't mind it.

I asked a native speaker btw what they thought and they said （ことばとして）軽いじゃ軽いけど、ペドファイルじゃペドファイル。 I don't think they're actually considered two different things to most Japanese (outside of the otaku realm), but it might certainly be the case that there's a weaker connotation of "actual child molester" than there is for say ペドファイル.

@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+<gloss>sexual obsession with young girls</gloss>

GG5: 〔その男性〕 a man attracted to very young girls.
●あいつはロリコンだ. He's into very young girls. | He has a thing for very young girls.
中辞典:  a sexual obsession with young girls; a “Lolita complex”.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

I'll accept that pedophile/pedophilia are probably accurate glosses, but I note that the JEs avoid that term. I suspect that in Japan there is a view that lolicon and pedophilia are slightly different things, but if you look at the actual definition of pedophilia, they are really the same.
Is there a problem with including "sexual obsession with young girls" in the glosses?

I sometimes check twitter for mentions of jmdict/jisho and I've noticed that this entry frequently comes up for discussion. It's apparent there's a sizable contingent of anime/manga fans who are into "lolicon content" that are adamant that being sexually attracted to prepubescent girls is a completely different thing from pedophilia. I don't know anything about Kevin in particular and am certainly not accusing him of anything, but I think we need to be aware there are a lot of people online who are very strongly opposed to "ロリコン" being defined as "pedophile" solely because it makes them feel personally attacked. Here's an example of a recent (June 24) Twitter thread where you can see how this usually plays out: https://twitter.com/COEofTypo/status/1539386476537970689 (there's a lot of replies but here's one that leads into this discussion of our definition as it appeared at the time on Jisho: https://twitter.com/ElFazendobarra/status/1539858524548632576 )

The argument that people on Twitter are making (that it seems Kevin is similarly arguing for) is that "ロリコン" should not be translated as "pedophile" because there are other words in Japanese that are also translated as "pedophilia/pedophile" and there is a distinction between those words (ペドフィリア/小児性愛 etc.) and ロリコン. While this is no doubt true, that it's only ロリコン that is used self-referentially, this doesn't mean that glosses like "male pedophile" or "male pedophilia" don't also belong here. We are not only concerned with getting the nuance right but also conveying the actual meaning of the word. Kevin changed "male pedophilia" to "sexual attraction to young girls" and "male pedophile" to "male with such an attraction", but are these really closer in nuance and meaning to ロリコン or just wordier and wafflier ways of saying the exact same things? That's a rhetorical question - it's obvious to me its the latter. It's hairsplitting. Look up the definitions of "pedophile" and "pedophilia" in any English dictionary. Notice also that ALL the kokugo definitions for ロリコン mention "性欲" - that an otaku-dominated wiki site like pixiv disagrees ("特別な感情" is what they call it) seems entirely irrelevant to me. This isn't a case of "Western bias", it's a case of looking at reliable sources instead of user-generated content.

I agree that "lolicon" rather than "male pedophile" should lead, for nuance etc. reasons, but that word will be meaningless to a lot of people, so we need to also include glosses that pithily explain what this actually means. We always strive for the most economical definitions so why exactly is it that we shouldn't call a spade a spade here?

Another point about the other reference Kevin posted is a blog post written by a person calling himself "初老のオタ" and the argument he is making is that ロリコン IS in fact used to refer to male pedophiles/pedophilia in Japanese media but that he finds this usage "wrong" because he has personally somewhat convolutedly decided that a "ロリコン" is somebody who is "sexually or romantically attracted to underage girls but doesn't necessarily want to act on it in real life" and that a ペド on the other hand is somebody whose "ultimate purpose" (最終目的) is to have sex with underage girls:

"ロリコン、ペド、チャイルド・マレスター……
これらの違いが曖昧な日本ならではの報道だなぁと。
...
少女・幼女に対し性的嗜好や恋愛感情を持つ事で、
最終的目標が性交の有無であるか否かは関係ありません。
...
●ロリは必ずしも性交を最終目的とはしておらず、
　ペドは性交を最終目的としている。"

We should really not be concerned with what "otaku purists" consider the correct use of the word (which by the way still would translate into "male pedophile" in English) but with how it's actually used in mainstream Japanese society. For more on that, see the multiple links I've previously posted.

@@ -10,0 +11 @@
+<s_inf>oft. used self-referentially</s_inf>
@@ -12,2 +13,2 @@
-<gloss>(often sexual) attraction to young girls</gloss>
-<gloss>male (sexually) attracted to young girls</gloss>
+<gloss>male pedophile</gloss>
+<gloss>male pedophilia</gloss>

I missed this, apologies. Kevin, welcome to JMDict. We always appreciate input on definitions but the multiple accusations of "cultural ignorance", "Western bias", "chauvinism", "strangeness" and  "glibness" are not at all appropriate and if you wish to continue participating in the discussion on how we should define this word, I would hope you would afford other editors more respect than you've done so far. I've changed "male with _such_ an attraction" to "male (sexually) attracted to young girls" because style-wise, we try to avoid glosses that explicitly refer to previous ones. I don't have time right now but I will try and revisit this at a later date as I'm not sure I fully agree with the changes made.

@@ -13 +13 @@
-<gloss>a male with such an attraction</gloss>
+<gloss>male (sexually) attracted to young girls</gloss>

Hmm. I guess this covers Marcus' view on  "male pedophile" and "male pedophilia" references.

Kevin's case and amendments seem sound but I'd like to see Marcus's response before approving.

日本の場合、ロリコンとペドフィリアが混同され、日常語としての「ペドフィリア」は、ロリコンに比べて病的・犯罪的ニュアンスを伴って使用される場合が多い。(wiki)

現在では幼い少女を性的に好んでいる人のことを指して使われることが多いが、本来ロリータ・コンプレックスとは性的な意味合いは薄く、（異性愛の）女性がロリータ・コンプレックスであるということも大いにありえる。本来は対象は「美」少女に限らない。(pixiv)

https://dic.pixiv.net/a/ロリコン

A whole blog post on the subject:
http://yamatoasuka02.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-762.html?sp

Video series on the topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=lETPaGnl2aI&ab_channel=PauseandSelect

Many of the references given by others below, despite their intentions, clearly imply a distinction between the concepts of lolicon and pedophilia. Some of them, such as the Wiki quote, literally state that they are different concepts. Despite this, this same reference was somehow used to justify including the gloss of "pedophile"? Truly strange, and obviously Western bias.

The pixiv article clearly states that lolicon is not necessarily sexual, which is not something that can be said about the different concept of pedophilia. Indeed, the very fact that "pedophilia" has entered the Japanese lexicon in katakana implies a core difference.

The blog article I provide underscores the fact that this is, at best, a debated topic. The current entry glibly sides with one side of this "debate" in a way that is unscholarly. Japan has a big cultural preference for the young and 未熟, and understanding that at a deep level is essential to understanding why it's inappropriate to glibly label lolicon to be pedophilia.

Honestly, they are quite obviously similar but different concepts, and it's culturally ignorant and chauvinistic to include this gloss.

@@ -12,3 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>sexual attraction to young girls</gloss>
-<gloss>male pedophilia</gloss>
-<gloss>male pedophile</gloss>
+<gloss>(often sexual) attraction to young girls</gloss>
+<gloss>a male with such an attraction</gloss>

https://nikkan-spa.jp/1481525
小児性愛は病気なのか？人口の5％いる彼らの犯罪を防ぐには
さらに、週刊誌報道によると、「中学生時代は遊び相手といえば小さな子どもだった」「いつも小さな子にベタベタと接する」といった記事もあり、今回の事件もいわゆる「ロリコン」――小児性愛者による犯
罪で、しかも、再犯だったと見られる。
...
まず、「ロリコン」とも言われる小児性愛は“病気”なのだろうか？
this article treats ロリコン as a colloquial term for 小児性愛者/小児性愛 (pedophile/pedophilia)

https://www.kadokawa.co.jp/product/301509001364/
"幼児性愛病者（ロリコン）の魔法を完全に解くことができず、10歳の子供と18歳の大人姿の二重生活をしながら王宮に勤めるリーフィア。"
as does this one

https://www.cocolabo.me/loli-com/
"世の中には社会的に認められない欲望というものがあります。その中の一つとして割とメジャーなものが「子どもへの性的欲求」いわゆる「ロリコン」です。
精神医学的には、13歳以下の子どもへ性的欲求を持つことを「幼児性愛」（ペドフェリア）と呼びます。（参考：小児性愛障害-MSDマニュアル）"
and this one

https://www.mag2.com/p/money/1076497
"ロリコン犯罪の温床「性的同意年齢13歳」をすぐに引き上げよ。親の貧困化とSNSも要因、少年少女の性暴力被害者増加＝鈴木傾城"

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/195397d3006e3ef705118829b4e31f779a8068eb
《少女わいせつ》前科3犯・ロリコン容疑者の卑劣な手口と、実母が涙で語る“性依存の闇”
"すでに仕事を引退し、いまは農業を営む両親。40歳近くにもなって自立せず、性犯罪を繰り返すロリコン息子についてどう考えているのか。"
　"改めて翌日、自宅にいる母親を訪ねてみた。すると、
「本当にすみません……。もうどうしていいのか……。息子は完全に（性犯罪の）依存症です……」"

https://www.excite.co.jp/news/article/Tocana_201805_post_16895/
週刊誌記者によると「自宅へのガサ入れで幼児性愛者である証拠品が押収されたとの情報もある。やはりロリコンの線は消せない」という。

https://friday.kodansha.co.jp/article/10174
新潟少女殺害死体遺棄事件 「ロリコン性欲者」小林遼容疑者野放し

https://bunshun.jp/articles/-/29765
子どもへの性加害は「平均週2～3回」小児性犯罪者のすさまじい実態
「そりゃセックスもしましたよ。恋人同士ですもん。それを周りの人たちが、ぶち壊したんです。私がロリコンで、Yちゃんは被害者だといって引き離したんです。
　私はそんな人達によって犯罪者にさせられました。おかしいのはどっちだっていいたいです……」
　これは、12歳の少女に性加害をした49歳の男性の言葉である。

https://somec.org/activity2012.html
"「小児性愛は日本では『ロリコン』など好みの一種とされ、治療が受けにくい状況だ。治せる疾患という認識を社会が共有し、加害者をなくす道を広げるべきだ」と話す。"

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/11ef2d546dd9c5be5d70e3a7eb861825eaed35de
3月場所中「16歳の少女」になりすまし11歳女児を…ロリコン力士の巧妙かつ卑劣な手口

https://dot.asahi.com/webdoku/2017060700082.html
ロリコン大国ニッポン 「アメリカだったら児童ポルノ扱い」

jawiki:ペドフィリア
日本の場合、ロリコンとペドフィリアが混同され、日常語としての「ペドフィリア」は、ロリコンに比べて病的・犯罪的ニュアンスを伴って使用される場合が多い。

https://www.police.pref.wakayama.lg.jp/01_anzen/syonen/kanren/index.html
児童ポルノとは、児童（18歳未満の少年。以下同じ。）を性欲の対象にした、児童のわいせつな画像(写真や動画など)のことをいいます。世間では、「ロリコン」といった呼び方で、児童ポルノを成人向けア
ダルト製品と見る風潮があります。しかしその本質は、児童に対する性犯罪・性的虐待の記録にほかなりません。
Here's a page from the Wakayama Prefectrual police explicitly saying that "lolicon" is the same thing as child pornography.



https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2019-08-09/.149914
English language discussion where a manga translator suggests "pedophile" can't be the correct translation for ロリコン because the word "ペドファイル" (a pretty rare word 
in Japanese) exists. I disagree.


Daijs: "幼女・少女にのみ性欲を感じる異常心理"
Daijr: "性愛の対象を少女にのみ求める心理"
Koj: "性的対象として少女・幼女を愛すること。"
Shinjirin: "性愛の対象を少女にのみ求める心理。"
Nikk: "男性が、性愛の対象として少女に偏執すること。"

I think it's remiss to not include the glosses "male pedophile" and "male pedophilia". It's obvious that in Japan, this is how the word is used.

@@ -13 +13,2 @@
-<gloss>person attracted to young girls</gloss>
+<gloss>male pedophilia</gloss>
+<gloss>male pedophile</gloss>

Reopen.

Perhaps this addresses Marcus' point? I'll approve and reopen.

@@ -12 +12 @@
-<gloss>attraction to young girls</gloss>
+<gloss>sexual attraction to young girls</gloss>

Chanced upon this headline just now:
少女買春ロリコン大富豪のジェフリー・エプスタイン逮
捕で新世界秩序の予定が狂う!? 陰謀の世界が大混乱… 
モサドが全方位で暗躍中！

daijr: 性愛の対象を少女にのみ求める心理。
nikk:男性が、性愛の対象として少女に偏執すること。
daijs: 幼女・少女にのみ性欲を感じる異常心理。

I agree 1 sense is actually better, but 
the previous glosses "male pedophile" and 
"male sexually attracted to prepubescent 
girls" align much closer with what's in 
the kokugos. The new glosses on the other 
hand skip out on the "性愛／性欲” part 
(which is in all 3 kokugos) and on the "男
性が、” in nikk. So I don't see how that's 
an improvement.

reopen

english wikipedia

i don't think it's sexist, but i agree that it's too limited.  also, i don't think it's two senses.  we usually put the person in together with the action, etc.

i'm temp approving because i think the existing entry is clearly not right

the proposed "definition" is not appropriate for a japanese-english dictionary

@@ -9,7 +8,0 @@
-<misc>&abbr;</misc>
-<gloss>lolicon</gloss>
-<gloss>male pedophile</gloss>
-<gloss>male sexually attracted to prepubescent girls</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -19 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>male pedophilia</gloss>
+<gloss>attraction to young girls</gloss>
+<gloss>person attracted to young girls</gloss>

The definition of "lolicon" is 
problematic, and I'd like to persuade you 
to update it since it is misinformation 
and sexist.

The definition erroneously uses the 
definition of male paedophile. A 
paedophile is the attraction to 
prepubescent individuals, and pedophilia 
is the attraction itself to prepubescent 
individuals. The term "Lolita" comes from 
the novel and is only about an early 
adolescence girl. Lolita was depicted as 
12 in the novel, and 14 in the film. 99% 
of the depictions of fictional minors in 
the lolicon genre have small breasts. 
Prepubescent children don't have breasts. 
They're flat as a board.

The shotacon entry doesn't say "female 
pedophile". This is sexist because it 
implies only men can have attractions to 
minors. Women can be attracted to female 
and/or male minors and men can be 
attracted to male minors.

Here is my proposed updated definition 
with better parity to shotacon:

ロリコン (lolicon) sometimes shortened to 
ロリ (loli), is a Japanese slang 
portmanteau of the phrase "lolita complex" 
and describes an attraction to early 
adolescent girls, or an individual with 
such an attraction, although it has become 
a blanket term to refer to any minor 
attracted person/attraction to a minor. 
Outside Japan, the term is used less often 
with this meaning, and is used to refer to 
a genre of manga and anime wherein mostly 
preadolescent or early adolescent female 
characters are depicted in a suggestive or 
erotic manner.

daij　gg5 jawiki
Daij and jawiki say "lolita complex" is wasei. Enwiki has 
no article on "lolita complex", only on "lolicon" 
(interestingly, that page does not show up in Google 
searches)

I don't think ロリ and ロリコン should be the same entry. 
Splitting out ロリ
_
Based on enwiki, it seems "lolicon" can refer both to 
the "phenomenon" and the "person" in English. I think 
the English term refers esp. to a

@@ -7,3 +7,7 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ロリ</reb>
-</r_ele>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
+<gloss>lolicon</gloss>
+<gloss>male pedophile</gloss>
+<gloss>male sexually attracted to prepubescent girls</gloss>
+</sense>
@@ -13 +16,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2399250">小児性愛者</xref>
@@ -15,5 +18,2 @@
-<gloss>Lolita complex (sexual attraction to children, esp. young girls)</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
-<gloss>portraying children in an erotic style</gloss>
+<gloss>lolicon</gloss>
+<gloss>male pedophilia</gloss>

GG5

@@ -16,0 +16,2 @@
+<gloss>Yours sincerely</gloss>
+<gloss>Yours truly</gloss>

Links term in note

@@ -15,0 +15,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1472260">拝啓</xref>

rōnin/ronin will be messy in EDICT-land because the UTF-8->EUC conversion changes ō to o.

daij gg5
daijs: １ 古代、本籍地を離れ、他国を流浪している者。浮浪人。

I don't think the "wandering" part is necessary in the first sense. Maybe the often wandered about (?) but it's not explicitly 
mentioned in either daij, gg5 or jawiki, though "wanderer" is the original meaning.
_
GG5's definition of the 2nd sense is much more detailed/precise than ours: （学生の） a high-school graduate who failed to enter 
a college and is waiting for another chance; a student who failed the entrance examination and has been cramming to try again; a 
would-be but disappointed university entrant. They also gloss it as a "student" rather than the "waiting" said student does.
daijr is more general: "進学や就職に失敗し，次の機会を待ってその準備をすること。また，その人。" but then again they don't have a 
separate sense for "person out of work" like we and GG5 do.
_

@@ -24 +24,7 @@
-<gloss g_type="expl">wandering samurai without a master to serve</gloss>
+<gloss>masterless samurai</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<stagk>浪人</stagk>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<gloss>waiting for another chance to enter university after having failed the yearly entrance examination</gloss>
@@ -29,0 +36 @@
+<gloss>jobless person</gloss>
@@ -34,2 +41,4 @@
-<pos>&vs;</pos>
-<gloss>waiting for another chance to enter a university</gloss>
+<misc>&arch;</misc>
+<s_inf>orig. meaning</s_inf>
+<gloss>wanderer</gloss>
+<gloss>drifter</gloss>

Do we have a policy on this? In English, "ronin" will obviously be more common than "rōnin".

@@ -22,0 +23 @@
+<gloss>ronin</gloss>

gg5, daij

I don't think any of the senses are [adj-no].

@@ -22,3 +22,7 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
-<gloss>ronin</gloss>
-<gloss>wandering samurai without a master to serve</gloss>
+<gloss>rōnin</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">wandering samurai without a master to serve</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<stagk>浪人</stagk>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>person out of work</gloss>
@@ -30,8 +33,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
-<gloss>out of work</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<stagk>浪人</stagk>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<pos>&vs;</pos>
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>

daijs nipp　wiki nikk

@@ -9,0 +9,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>牢人</keb>
@@ -24,0 +27,1 @@
+<stagk>浪人</stagk>
@@ -30,0 +34,1 @@
+<stagk>浪人</stagk>

Koj & Daijr combine, GG5 & ルミナス split on the kanji. N-grams:
小量	13568
少量	1495902

@@ -4,4 +3,0 @@
-<k_ele>
-<keb>小量</keb>
-<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
-</k_ele>
@@ -12,0 +9,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>小量</keb>
+<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
@@ -23,0 +24 @@
+<s_inf>esp. 少量</s_inf>
@@ -25,0 +27,6 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
+<pos>&n-adv;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<s_inf>esp. 小量</s_inf>

gg5, prog, daijs

all waeis split these two まわりs.  kokugos merge but with some pretty strict restrictions.  i want to add more senses to 回り, which would make this a hideous mess.  probably best to split with xrefs between them

@@ -4,4 +4,0 @@
-<k_ele>
-<keb>回り</keb>
-<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
-</k_ele>
@@ -13,3 +9,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>廻り</keb>
@@ -25,1 +18,1 @@
-<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2800530">回り・まわり・1</xref>
@@ -27,2 +20,1 @@
-<gloss>perimeter</gloss>
-<gloss>edge</gloss>
+<gloss>girth</gloss>
@@ -32,1 +24,0 @@
-<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
@@ -34,1 +25,1 @@
-<gloss>locality</gloss>
+<gloss>neighbourhood</gloss>
@@ -36,8 +27,1 @@
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<stagk>回り</stagk>
-<stagk>廻り</stagk>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
-<gloss>rotation</gloss>
-<gloss>circulation</gloss>
+<gloss>vicinity</gloss>

gg5, daij

I don't think it's [n-adv]. It's followed by に in expressions like 隔週に行く.

@@ -15,2 +15,2 @@
-<pos>&n-adv;</pos>
-<pos>&n-t;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<gloss>every two weeks</gloss>

daijr, daijs

@@ -10,0 +10,4 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>まんくう</reb>
+<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
@@ -12,0 +16,1 @@
+<pos>&n;</pos>

daijr/s: "また、その人"

@@ -13,0 +14 @@
+<gloss>sponger</gloss>

Daijr "親などから..."

@@ -13,1 +13,1 @@
-<gloss>sponging off one's parents</gloss>
+<gloss>sponging (e.g. off one's parents)</gloss>

web hits-390k vs 30k

@@ -12,0 +12,1 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>

I agree. We don't have a "cop" PoS, I guess "unc" with the note works?

@@ -23 +23 @@
-<pos>&cop-da;</pos>
+<pos>&unc;</pos>

this is a copula, but not cop-da

GG5 has a sense which it describes as "軽く言い放つ" and for which it gives two examples:
もうどうなったっていいや. Hey, I don't care either way.
そりゃいい. 一緒に行こうや. Good idea. Let's go together.
I don't think we cover this, and it seems to match the Tanaka sentence tagged for sense 4: "これじゃあ、僕は一生結婚なんて出来やしないや。   I guess I'm never going to get married."
Should we add another sense? Or tweak sense 5?

Moved "be; is" sense 6 to place 3.

@@ -22,0 +23,8 @@
+<pos>&cop-da;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2089020">だ・1</xref>
+<s_inf>plain copula</s_inf>
+<dial>&ksb;</dial>
+<gloss>be</gloss>
+<gloss>is</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
@@ -40,8 +47,0 @@
-<pos>&cop-da;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="2089020">だ・1</xref>
-<s_inf>plain copula</s_inf>
-<dial>&ksb;</dial>
-<gloss>be</gloss>
-<gloss>is</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>

I guess it's not a problem here.

Aligining with か.

I realized by the way that we only have cop-da on very 
few entries (だ,そうだ and ニダ, and I'm the one adding it 
one ニダ). Is cop-da ok here? Are there conjugation 
tables somewhere for this which complicates things?

@@ -57 +57,4 @@
-<gloss>?</gloss>
+<gloss>yes?</gloss>
+<gloss>no?</gloss>
+<gloss>is it?</gloss>
+<gloss>isn't it?</gloss>

sense 1,3,4: moving usage note to [note]
sense 3: I've seen "や" translated as "o" (Basho's 松島 
haiku)
sense 6: Aligning with だ. Really this isn't ksb but very 
widely used [western Japanese]

@@ -10 +10,2 @@
-<gloss>such things as (non-exhaustive list related to a specific time and place)</gloss>
+<s_inf>used for non-exhaustive lists related to a specific time and place</s_inf>
+<gloss>such things as ...</gloss>
@@ -23 +24,3 @@
-<gloss>punctuational exclamation in haiku, renga, etc.</gloss>
+<s_inf>punctuational exclamation in haiku, renga, etc.</s_inf>
+<gloss>o</gloss>
+<gloss>oh</gloss>
@@ -27 +30,3 @@
-<gloss>interjection expressing surprise</gloss>
+<s_inf>interjection expressing surprise</s_inf>
+<gloss>huh</gloss>
+<gloss>what</gloss>
@@ -35 +40 @@
-<pos>&aux;</pos>
+<pos>&cop-da;</pos>
@@ -37,0 +43 @@
+<s_inf>plain copula</s_inf>
@@ -39 +45,2 @@
-<gloss>plain copula</gloss>
+<gloss>be</gloss>
+<gloss>is</gloss>
@@ -50 +57,2 @@
-<gloss>indicates a question</gloss>
+<s_inf>indicates a question</s_inf>
+<gloss>?</gloss>

@@ -15 +15 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2018190">や否や</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2018190">や否や・1</xref>

@@ -16 +16,2 @@
-<gloss>(after the dictionary form of a verb) the minute (that) ...</gloss>
+<s_inf>after the dictionary form of a verb</s_inf>
+<gloss>the minute (that) ...</gloss>

GG5

@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<gloss>as soon as</gloss>

I sometimes see "ya" used in place of "ka" in older Japanese. For example Daijirin says, "体言およびそれに準ずる語に付く。「…やもしれない」の形で，軽い疑いの意を表す。 「近いうちに大地震がある－も知れない」" Also, on ejje.weblio.jp there is a sentence, "中学課程の範囲内において如何にして英語を完全に教授すべきや How best to teach English within the limits of the middle-school curriculum" which uses "subeki ya" instead of "subeki ka".

@@ -41,0 +42,5 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&prt;</pos>
+<misc>&arch;</misc>
+<gloss>indicates a question</gloss>
+</sense>

daijr, daijs
daijs doesn't mention the greeting (which I put down as "hi") 
being specifically male: "突然または偶然に出会った人に呼びかけるときに発
する語。「―、しばらく」", but daijr does.

@@ -24,0 +24,9 @@
+<pos>&int;</pos>
+<gloss>interjection expressing surprise</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&int;</pos>
+<misc>&male;</misc>
+<gloss>hi</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
@@ -29,0 +38,6 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&int;</pos>
+<misc>&arch;</misc>
+<gloss>yes</gloss>
+<gloss>what?</gloss>
+</sense>

Entry created

gg5

@@ -10,2 +10,9 @@
-<gloss>(after volitional form of verb) to try to (verb)</gloss>
-<gloss>(after dictionary form) to (decide to) do</gloss>
+<s_inf>after the volitional form of verb</s_inf>
+<gloss>to try to ...</gloss>
+<gloss>to be about to do ...</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&exp;</pos>
+<pos>&vs-i;</pos>
+<s_inf>after the dictionary form of verb</s_inf>
+<gloss>to decide to ...</gloss>

Hi, as I understand it, after the volitional form of a verb, とする (or at least the form としている) can also mean "be about to do something". If I'm correct, perhaps this meaning could be added?

Entry created

Jim, in Tatoeba there are 621 ん that are tagged の

@@ -23 +23,2 @@
-<gloss>negative verb ending used in informal speech (abbr. of negative verb ending "nu")</gloss>
+<s_inf>negative verb ending used in informal speech; abbr. of negative verb ending ぬ</s_inf>
+<gloss>not</gloss>
@@ -29 +30,2 @@
-<gloss>abbr. of particle "no"</gloss>
+<s_inf>abbr. of particle の; indicates possessive</s_inf>
+<gloss>'s</gloss>
@@ -34 +36,5 @@
-<gloss>abbr. of particle "ni" (used especially when it precedes the verb "naru")</gloss>
+<s_inf>abbr. of particle に, used esp. when it precedes the verb なる</s_inf>
+<gloss>at (place, time)</gloss>
+<gloss>in</gloss>
+<gloss>on</gloss>
+<gloss>during</gloss>

@@ -30 +29,0 @@
-<xref type="see">の</xref>

daijs
１ 相手の意向を了解・承諾したときに用いる語。うん。「―、いいよ」
２ 疑問を表すときに用いる語。「―、何か変だぞ」
no mention of abbr

(I'm not touching the xref for の, that's happening 
automatically)

@@ -10 +9,0 @@
-<misc>&abbr;</misc>
@@ -13,0 +13,5 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&int;</pos>
+<gloss>huh?</gloss>
+<gloss>what?</gloss>
@@ -25,2 +29 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1469800">の・1</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1469800">の・4</xref>
+<xref type="see">の</xref>

PoS are wonky.  copying from xref targets
synching sense 1 with うん

@@ -11,1 +11,3 @@
-<gloss>used to express approval, especially in slurred or unclear speech (abbr. of interjection "un")</gloss>
+<gloss>yes</gloss>
+<gloss>yeah</gloss>
+<gloss>uh huh</gloss>
@@ -14,1 +16,2 @@
-<pos>&int;</pos>
+<pos>&aux-v;</pos>
+<pos>&suf;</pos>
@@ -19,1 +22,5 @@
-<pos>&int;</pos>
+<pos>&prt;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1469800">の・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1469800">の・4</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1469800">の・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1469800">の・4</xref>
@@ -23,1 +30,1 @@
-<pos>&int;</pos>
+<pos>&prt;</pos>

Probably just an xref.

@@ -9,0 +9,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1001090">うん</xref>

Should sense 1 just be combined with うん? We could give it a note if that's felt to be necessary.

@@ -14,1 +14,1 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2441300">ぬ</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2441300">ぬ・1</xref>
@@ -19,1 +19,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1469800">乃・の</xref>

Entry created

daij, gg5, prog

Added senses.

@@ -13,2 +13,18 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1291050">左様なら</xref>
-<gloss>good-bye</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1291050">さようなら</xref>
+<gloss>goodbye</gloss>
+<gloss>so long</gloss>
+<gloss>farewell</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<gloss>saying goodbye to (e.g. life as a bachelor)</gloss>
+<gloss>putting an end to</gloss>
+<gloss>parting with</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
+<gloss>farewell (performance, party, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>final</gloss>
+<gloss>last</gloss>
+<gloss>game-winning (e.g. hit)</gloss>

All fixed.

Jim, there are 31 さよなら and 1 サヨナラ that are tagged さようなら

Entry created

Might help.

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1454080">道・みち・1</xref>
@@ -13,0 +15,3 @@
+<gloss>path</gloss>
+<gloss>street</gloss>
+<gloss>route</gloss>
@@ -16,0 +21 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1454080">道・みち・3</xref>
@@ -17,0 +23,2 @@
+<gloss>set of practices</gloss>
+<gloss>rules for conducting oneself</gloss>

Could this be expanded on? The difference between sense 1 
and 2 for example.

Entry created

G n-grams:
けちな	25236
ケチな	108021

@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ケチ</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -10 +13,2 @@
-<s_inf>also 吝嗇</s_inf>
+<xref type="see" seq="1585670">吝嗇・りんしょく</xref>
+<s_inf>also written 吝嗇</s_inf>

@@ -14 +14 @@
-<gloss>cheesparing</gloss>
+<gloss>cheeseparing</gloss>

Entry created

Why gloss this as a noun? The original gloss looked fine to me.

@@ -13 +13,2 @@
-<gloss>The merits and demerits offset each other</gloss>
+<gloss>merits and demerits offsetting each other</gloss>
+<gloss>producing results means small mistakes will be forgiven</gloss>

Entry created

矢っ張り	5293
やっぱり	44395677
矢張り	116014
やはり	30086722

The JEs mostly lead with "too, also", but I can go along with this. I'll align the やっぱり entry.
Initial approval, then I'll do the xrefs.

gg5, prog, daij, meikyo

Given how common the "as expected" sense is, I thought it was odd that we had it at the bottom. I suggest this order.
I'll reindex the sentences if this is approved.

@@ -20 +20,15 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1012810">矢っ張り・やっぱり・1</xref>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<gloss>as expected</gloss>
+<gloss>sure enough</gloss>
+<gloss>just as one thought</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&adv;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<gloss>after all (is said and done)</gloss>
+<gloss>in the end</gloss>
+<gloss>as one would expect</gloss>
+<gloss>in any case</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&adv;</pos>
@@ -23,0 +38 @@
+<gloss>as well</gloss>
@@ -25 +40 @@
-<gloss>either</gloss>
+<gloss>(not) either</gloss>
@@ -29 +43,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1012810">矢っ張り・やっぱり・2</xref>
@@ -36 +49,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1012810">矢っ張り・やっぱり・3</xref>
@@ -37,0 +51 @@
+<gloss>all the same</gloss>
@@ -39 +53 @@
-<gloss>either way</gloss>
+<gloss>still</gloss>
@@ -41,8 +54,0 @@
-<gloss>in any event</gloss>
-<gloss>all the same</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&adv;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="1012810">矢っ張り・やっぱり・4</xref>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<gloss>as expected</gloss>

Fixed.

Jim, there are 47 やはり that are tagged やっぱり

xrefs disappeared; trying again

@@ -19,0 +20 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1012810">矢っ張り・やっぱり・1</xref>
@@ -27,0 +29 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1012810">矢っ張り・やっぱり・2</xref>
@@ -33,0 +36 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1012810">矢っ張り・やっぱり・3</xref>
@@ -42,0 +46 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1012810">矢っ張り・やっぱり・4</xref>

@@ -19,0 +20 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1012810">矢っ張り・やっぱり・1</xref>
@@ -27,0 +29 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1012810">矢っ張り・やっぱり・2</xref>
@@ -33,0 +36 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1012810">矢っ張り・やっぱり・3</xref>
@@ -42,0 +46 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1012810">矢っ張り・やっぱり・4</xref>

@@ -20,0 +20,1 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -27,0 +28,1 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -32,0 +34,1 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -40,0 +43,1 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>

prog, nc, gg5, etc.

split out of the mess that is やっぱり

I fixed all I could find.

Jim, in Tatoeba there are 1600 いい that are mistagged 良い

Making the POS change, as discussed.

@@ -9 +9 @@
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-ix;</pos>
@@ -19 +19 @@
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-ix;</pos>
@@ -26 +26 @@
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-ix;</pos>
@@ -32 +32 @@
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-ix;</pos>

reopen.  see comment above regarding PoS

from other entry

@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>

temporarily approved the split, but i don't think adj-f is a correct PoS for this

See discussion starting https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/edict-jmdict/conversations/messages/5203

Aligning with 良い entry.

@@ -42,0 +43 @@
+<s_inf>as ていい, after the ren'yōkei form of a verb; indicates concession or compromise</s_inf>

OK, I'll go for a note.

@@ -10,0 +11 @@
+<s_inf>also written 良い</s_inf>

This entry could have 良い added and "uk" added to the senses, which would bring it into line with the kokugos, GG5, etc. Alternatively a "also written 良い" note could be added. If we were to add 良い I'll have to reindex about 1500 sentences.
I guess it's not been a problem, so maybe a note would do.

I fixed all I could find.

Jim, in Tatoeba there are 1600 いい that are mistagged 良い

Making the POS change, as discussed.

@@ -9 +9 @@
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-ix;</pos>
@@ -19 +19 @@
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-ix;</pos>
@@ -26 +26 @@
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-ix;</pos>
@@ -32 +32 @@
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-ix;</pos>

reopen.  see comment above regarding PoS

from other entry

@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>

temporarily approved the split, but i don't think adj-f is a correct PoS for this

See discussion starting https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/edict-jmdict/conversations/messages/5203

gg5

I don't think these glosses are great, but I don't like 
artificially splitting up the notes into note and expl 
either.

@@ -12,2 +12,2 @@
-<s_inf>used at sentence end</s_inf>
-<gloss g_type="expl">adds light force or emphasis to a sentence</gloss>
+<s_inf>used at sentence end; adds light force or emphasis to a sentence</s_inf>
+<gloss>I can tell you</gloss>
@@ -18,2 +18,2 @@
-<s_inf>at sentence end</s_inf>
-<gloss g_type="expl">used to make a sentence threating or ironic</gloss>
+<s_inf>at sentence end; used to make a sentence threating or ironic</s_inf>
+<gloss>heh</gloss>

daij

split from ぞ