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jmdict 1256670 Active (id: 2160670)
兼任 [news1,nf22]
【けんにん [news1,nf22] 】

1.

[n,vs,vt]
▶ serving concurrently as
▶ holding the additional post of

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 2846618 兼担【けんたん】 1. serving concurrently as; holding the additional post of

Conjugations

History:

6.	A 2021-11-18 00:46:52 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Meikyo vt and vi additions to n,vs entries -- via bulkupd.py --
	Diff:	@@ -16,0 +17 @@ +<pos>&vt;</pos>
5.	A 2018-03-29 23:51:13 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
4.	A* 2018-03-29 23:48:11 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	daij, gg5
	Comments:	This does not mean "concurrent post". Only one sense. Two or more posts.
	Diff:	@@ -16,3 +15,0 @@ -<gloss>concurrent post</gloss> -</sense> -<sense> @@ -20 +17,2 @@ -<gloss>to hold two posts concurrently</gloss> +<gloss>serving concurrently as</gloss> +<gloss>holding the additional post of</gloss>
3.	A 2010-07-31 16:46:44 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
2.	A* 2010-07-31 10:15:28 Paul Blay <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Re-open to allow comments.
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1.	A 2010-07-31 10:15:08 Paul Blay <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Just splitting the PoS
	Diff:	@@ -16,1 +16,0 @@ -<pos>&vs;</pos> @@ -19,0 +18,4 @@ +<sense> +<pos>&vs;</pos> +<gloss>to hold two posts concurrently</gloss> +</sense>

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jmdict 1265530 Active (id: 1975482)
古臭い [spec2,news2,nf41] ；古くさい
【ふるくさい [spec2,news2,nf41] 】

1.

[adj-i]
▶ stale
▶ old fashioned
▶ hackneyed
▶ trite
▶ antiquated
▶ obsolete
▶ musty
▶ outdated

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 1575410 カビ臭い【かびくさい】 2. old-fashioned; stale; hackneyed; worn-out

Conjugations

History:

2.	A 2018-03-29 10:36:51 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-29 09:12:22 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5
	Diff:	@@ -24,0 +25,4 @@ +<gloss>antiquated</gloss> +<gloss>obsolete</gloss> +<gloss>musty</gloss> +<gloss>outdated</gloss>

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jmdict 1270660 Active (id: 1976788)
ご迷惑；御迷惑
【ごめいわく】

1.

[n,adj-na]
▶ trouble
▶ bother
▶ annoyance

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 1532800 迷惑 1. trouble; bother; annoyance; nuisance; inconvenience

History:

10.	A 2018-04-15 19:36:33 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I agree with Marcus
9.	A* 2018-03-29 02:02:17 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Kyoto/Melbourne ngrams 迷惑 281001 ご迷惑 58981
	Comments:	I misunderstood Johan's number to come from the Kyoto/Melbourne N-gram Corpus, so I assumed this form was more common than it actually is. Still, 59k in the k/m ngrams is nothing to scoff at. I don't really think there's an issue with including ご/ お compounds merely based on them being very common? "... then there are probably dozens of words we could add." Let's add them, then.
8.	A* 2018-03-28 11:13:49 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	For 〜的 and ～性 compounds, I agree but the unwritten policy on ご〜/お〜 entries that we've been following up till now seems to work quite well. Typically, we don't accept ご〜/お〜 entries (that aren't listed in dictionaries) unless they satisfy at least one of the following two conditions. 1. The word is more commonly used with ご/お than without (e.g. お湯). 2. The ご/お version has a different or more restricted meaning (e.g. お会計). If a ご/お compound merely has to be common to warrant inclusion then there are probably dozens of words we could add.
7.	A 2018-03-28 10:41:12 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	OK. I'll retag them.
6.	A* 2018-03-28 08:26:26 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I agree with Marcus that ご～, お～, ～的, ～中, ～性 etc. compounds that are obvious and not in the refs should still be included if they are very common.
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5.	A* 2018-03-28 07:54:38 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I think it's common enough to include (looking at the ngrams).
4.	D 2018-03-28 05:01:49 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I retagged them to point to just 迷惑.
3.	D* 2018-03-27 09:03:45 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	G n-grams ご迷惑 2777437
	Comments:	There are 14 Tanaka sentences tagged ご迷惑 Resurrect or retag?
2.	D 2018-03-11 01:23:45 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	D* 2018-03-10 15:47:40 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	ご+[noun]. Same meaning as 迷惑. Not in the refs.

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jmdict 1342300 Active (id: 1975486)
順境
【じゅんきょう】

1.

[n]
▶ favorable circumstances
▶ prosperity

Cross references:
	⇔ ant: 1227010 逆境 1. adverse circumstances; unfortunate situation; adversity

History:

2.	A 2018-03-29 10:40:24 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-28 12:18:12 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5, prog, daij
	Comments:	Probably don't need to worry about reverse lookups in this case.
	Diff:	@@ -11,0 +12 @@ +<xref type="ant" seq="1227010">逆境</xref> @@ -13 +14 @@ -<gloss>favourable circumstances</gloss> +<gloss>prosperity</gloss>

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jmdict 1395200 Active (id: 1975456)
全国大会
【ぜんこくたいかい】

1.

[n]
▶ national convention
▶ national competition
▶ national athletic meet

History:

2.	A 2018-03-29 01:34:25 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-28 12:51:53 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/声楽アンサンブルコンテスト全国大会
	Comments:	One example above.
	Diff:	@@ -12,0 +13 @@ +<gloss>national competition</gloss>

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jmdict 1400670 Active (id: 2162783)
争奪 [news1,nf17]
【そうだつ [news1,nf17] 】

1.

[n,vs,vt]
▶ struggle (for)
▶ scramble
▶ contest

Conjugations

History:

3.	A 2021-11-18 01:09:11 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Meikyo vt and vi additions to n,vs entries -- via bulkupd.py --
	Diff:	@@ -16,0 +17 @@ +<pos>&vt;</pos>
2.	A 2018-03-29 10:30:21 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-29 10:22:06 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5, prog
	Diff:	@@ -17 +17,2 @@ -<gloss>struggle</gloss> +<gloss>struggle (for)</gloss> +<gloss>scramble</gloss>

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jmdict 1400680 Active (id: 1975480)
争奪戦
【そうだつせん】

1.

[n]
▶ contest
▶ competition
▶ struggle
▶ scramble

History:

2.	A 2018-03-29 10:35:57 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-29 10:24:08 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5
	Comments:	Don't agree with "argument".
	Diff:	@@ -15 +15 @@ -<gloss>argument</gloss> +<gloss>scramble</gloss>

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jmdict 1415830 Active (id: 2162989)
拓殖 [spec2,news2,nf27] ；拓植
【たくしょく [spec2,news2,nf27] 】

1.

[n,vs,vi]
▶ colonization
▶ colonisation
▶ development
▶ settlement
▶ exploitation

Conjugations

History:

5.	A 2021-11-18 01:11:26 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Meikyo vt and vi additions to n,vs entries -- via bulkupd.py --
	Diff:	@@ -21,0 +22 @@ +<pos>&vi;</pos>
4.	A 2021-01-25 10:57:11 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Koj, Daijr
3.	A* 2021-01-25 08:52:31 Opencooper
	Refs:	daijs
	Diff:	@@ -8,0 +9,3 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>拓植</keb>
2.	A 2018-03-29 10:43:08 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-29 10:25:37 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5
	Diff:	@@ -20,0 +21,2 @@ +<gloss>development</gloss> +<gloss>settlement</gloss>

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jmdict 1492680 Active (id: 2198043)
不自由 [ichi1,news1,nf07]
【ふじゆう [ichi1,news1,nf07] 】

1.	[n,adj-na,vs] ▶ discomfort ▶ inconvenience
2.	[n,adj-na,vs] ▶ poverty ▶ want ▶ destitution
3.	[n,adj-na] ▶ inability ▶ disability ▶ impairment (physical, mental, etc.) ▶ nonfluency (in a language)

Conjugations

History:

10.	A 2022-07-22 23:58:45 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	おｋ
	Diff:	@@ -34 +33,0 @@ -<misc>&euph;</misc>
9.	A* 2022-07-22 21:49:20 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I think that usage has become so ubiquitous that it probably isn't considered particularly euphemistic any more.
8.	A* 2022-07-22 11:07:41 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	maybe?
	Diff:	@@ -33,0 +34 @@ +<misc>&euph;</misc>
7.	A 2021-07-07 22:22:41 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
6.	A* 2021-07-07 20:57:55 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	https://www.city.miyazaki.miyazaki.jp/fs/4/2/7/6/9/8/_/413586.pdf 日本語が不自由な外国人
	Comments:	It feels a little weird to have "inability" and "disability" in the same sense.
	Diff:	@@ -33,0 +34 @@ +<gloss>inability</gloss> @@ -35,0 +37 @@ +<gloss>nonfluency (in a language)</gloss>
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5.	A 2018-03-30 23:39:55 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	OK. Let's leave it there.
4.	A* 2018-03-30 13:46:43 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5, prog, daij, etc.
	Comments:	All the refs have [vs] examples. Doesn't appear to apply to sense 3 though (if we're keeping this split).
	Diff:	@@ -18,0 +19 @@ +<pos>&vs;</pos> @@ -24,0 +26 @@ +<pos>&vs;</pos>
3.	A* 2018-03-30 02:01:00 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	ルミナス, 中辞典 (both have 3 senses)
	Comments:	This entry is as it was when it first appeared in the update logs in 2009 (its content is older). I'm inclined to leave the senses alone, but make the PoS match. The JEs all lead with noun glosses. I don't really see a case for adding "vs".
	Diff:	@@ -16,0 +17 @@ +<pos>&n;</pos> @@ -18 +18,0 @@ -<pos>&n;</pos> @@ -22,0 +23 @@ +<pos>&n;</pos> @@ -24 +24,0 @@ -<pos>&n;</pos> @@ -29,0 +30 @@ +<pos>&n;</pos> @@ -31 +31,0 @@ -<pos>&n;</pos>
2.	A* 2018-03-29 01:31:11 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	[vs] in gg5 and daij
	Comments:	I don't really mind either way (n or adj-na first). Another issue with this entry though is whether it makes sense to have it split into 3 senses (no pun intended). gg5 and daij only have 1 sense. Prog has 2 (putting discomfort/want in the same sense, and disability in the other).
1.	A* 2018-03-24 07:20:19 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	G n-grams: 不自由 1321307 不自由な 476450 不自由し 111238 不自由に 66002 不自由を 50595 不自由は 50587 不自由で 48540 不自由さ 42691 不自由だ 25984 不自由が 18197 不自由する 17858
	Comments:	which way should we go: [n,adj-na,vs] with noun glosses or [adj-na,n,vs] with adj glosses?

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jmdict 1512940 Active (id: 2298845)
弁済 [ichi1,news2,nf34] ；辨済 [oK]
【べんさい [ichi1,news2,nf34] 】

1.

[n,vs,vt]
▶ repayment
▶ settlement (of a debt)
▶ paying off
▶ reimbursement (of expenses)

Conjugations

History:

5.	A 2024-04-22 07:24:06 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
4.	A* 2024-04-22 07:12:10 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	辨 is a kyūjitai. I assume that it gets displayed in the kokugos (unlike most kyūjitai forms) because 弁 has multiple old forms, so it's not a trivial switch. https://www.kanjipedia.jp/kanji/0006281500 Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーー─┬─────────╮ │ 弁済　　 │ 294,547 │ │ 辨済　　 │ 0 │ - oK (meikyo, gendai reikai, mentioned in a note in smk) │ べんさい │ 2,269 │ ╰─ーーーー─┴─────────╯
	Diff:	@@ -11,0 +12 @@ +<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
3.	A 2021-11-18 00:47:19 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Meikyo vt and vi additions to n,vs entries -- via bulkupd.py --
	Diff:	@@ -21,0 +22 @@ +<pos>&vt;</pos>
2.	A 2018-03-29 23:42:17 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-29 10:48:56 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5, prog, daij
	Comments:	Clearer.
	Diff:	@@ -8,0 +9,3 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>辨済</keb> @@ -19,2 +22,4 @@ -<gloss>settlement</gloss> -<gloss>payment</gloss> +<gloss>repayment</gloss> +<gloss>settlement (of a debt)</gloss> +<gloss>paying off</gloss> +<gloss>reimbursement (of expenses)</gloss>

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jmdict 1516540 Active (id: 1975500)
放れる [ichi1]
【はなれる [ichi1] 】

1.

[v1,vi]
▶ to get free (from)
▶ to be freed
▶ to be released

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 2841325 放れ【はなれ】 1. getting free; being released
	⇐ see: 2722000 放る【はなる】 1. to get free; to be freed; to be released

Conjugations

History:

4.	A 2018-03-29 23:42:40 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
3.	A* 2018-03-29 11:53:21 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	meikyo ex: "親の束縛を放れる"
	Comments:	Can be used with を so I think this is helpful.
	Diff:	@@ -15 +15 @@ -<gloss>to get free</gloss> +<gloss>to get free (from)</gloss>
2.	A 2012-06-09 00:00:49 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2012-06-08 19:37:30 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5, etc.
	Comments:	distinguishing from 離れる, with which some glosses appear slightly confused
	Diff:	@@ -15,1 +15,0 @@ -<gloss>to leave</gloss> @@ -17,1 +16,2 @@ -<gloss>to cut oneself off</gloss> +<gloss>to be freed</gloss> +<gloss>to be released</gloss>

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jmdict 1558370 Active (id: 1975455)
列車 [ichi1,news1,nf04]
【れっしゃ [ichi1,news1,nf04] 】

1.

[n]
▶ train
▶ railway train

History:

4.	A 2018-03-29 01:34:00 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	http://ot8.jp/archives/991 "電車と列車―意味や違いと使い分け。汽車との違いもしっかり。" "◆列車鉄道の線路を走行する鉄道車両の総称です。国土交通省では『停車場が胃の線路を運転させる目的で組成された車両』を列車と定めています。貨物列車、特急列車、寝台列車、通勤列車などなど、すべてが列車に該当します。"
	Comments:	I think it's safe to remove.
	Diff:	@@ -20 +19,0 @@ -<gloss>non-express train</gloss>
3.	A* 2018-03-28 12:08:21 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5: a (railway) train. koj: 鉄道の本線路を運転する車両または車両の連なり dsijs:　旅客や貨物を運ぶために線路上を走る連結した車両。
	Comments:	yes, that's probably what was meant, but is it correct? For non-express train we have 普通列車
2.	A* 2018-03-28 11:08:14 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I think this is what was meant.
	Diff:	@@ -19,0 +20 @@ +<gloss>non-express train</gloss>
1.	A* 2018-03-28 10:54:57 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5 koj daijs
	Comments:	not sure what "(ordinary)" meant
	Diff:	@@ -18 +18,2 @@ -<gloss>train (ordinary)</gloss> +<gloss>train</gloss> +<gloss>railway train</gloss>

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jmdict 1598310 Active (id: 1994660)
梃子；梃
【てこ；テコ (nokanji) 】

1.

[n] [uk]
▶ lever

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 2833690 槓杆【こうかん】 1. lever

2.

[n] [uk]
▶ agent (causing something to happen)
▶ instrument
▶ force

3.

[n] [uk]
▶ assistant
▶ helper

History:

9.	A 2019-01-01 11:14:55 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -25 +25 @@ -<gloss>force (causing something to happen)</gloss> +<gloss>agent (causing something to happen)</gloss> @@ -27 +27 @@ -<gloss>agent</gloss> +<gloss>force</gloss>
8.	A* 2019-01-01 08:54:12
	Diff:	@@ -25 +25,9 @@ -<gloss>means or actions to achieve a goal</gloss> +<gloss>force (causing something to happen)</gloss> +<gloss>instrument</gloss> +<gloss>agent</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<misc>&uk;</misc> +<gloss>assistant</gloss> +<gloss>helper</gloss>
7.	A* 2018-12-31 10:14:17
	Comments:	Daijisen: ３「手子の衆(しゅ)」に同じ。
6.	A* 2018-12-31 07:25:15 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Daijr, 中辞典
	Comments:	I can't see that proposed sense in a reference.
	Diff:	@@ -25,2 +25 @@ -<gloss>assistant</gloss> -<gloss>helper</gloss> +<gloss>means or actions to achieve a goal</gloss>
5.	A* 2018-12-30 23:56:33
	Diff:	@@ -21,0 +22,6 @@ +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<misc>&uk;</misc> +<gloss>assistant</gloss> +<gloss>helper</gloss> +</sense>
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4.	A 2018-03-29 10:42:46 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
3.	A* 2018-03-29 01:24:39 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	https://mainichi.jp/articles/20180329/k00/00m/010/136000c "安倍政権下では、４条の「政治的公平」原則をテコに民放がけん制されてきた。"
	Diff:	@@ -12,0 +13,4 @@ +<r_ele> +<reb>テコ</reb> +<re_nokanji/> +</r_ele>
2.	A 2015-06-04 09:20:52 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2015-06-02 07:52:04 luce
	Refs:	prog, eij kana prog lacks the single-kanji form n-grams 梃 315 梃子 1317 てこ 387635
	Diff:	@@ -5 +5 @@ -<keb>梃</keb> +<keb>梃子</keb> @@ -8 +8 @@ -<keb>梃子</keb> +<keb>梃</keb> @@ -14,0 +15 @@ +<misc>&uk;</misc>

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jmdict 1984600 Active (id: 1975458)
吟醸酒 [news2,nf28]
【ぎんじょうしゅ [news2,nf28] 】

1.

[n]
▶ ginjō sake
▶ [expl] high-quality sake brewed by low temperature fermentation from white rice milled to 60%

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 2835112 吟醸【ぎんじょう】 1. ginjō sake; high-quality sake brewed by low temperature fermentation from white rice milled to 60%
	⇐ see: 2567880 純米吟醸酒【じゅんまいぎんじょうしゅ】 1. ginjō sake with no added alcohol; junmai ginjō sake

History:

2.	A 2018-03-29 01:35:43 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Are the news2,nf28 tags really correct?
1.	A* 2018-03-22 10:06:35 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	GG5, ルミナス
	Diff:	@@ -16 +16,2 @@ -<gloss>type of sake brewed by low temperature fermentation from white rice milled to 60%</gloss> +<gloss>ginjō sake</gloss> +<gloss g_type="expl">high-quality sake brewed by low temperature fermentation from white rice milled to 60%</gloss>

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jmdict 2002310 Active (id: 2074891)
その道；其の道
【そのみち】

1.

[exp,n]
▶ that road (path, street, way, etc.)

2.

[exp,n]
▶ that line (of business)
▶ that profession
▶ that trade

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 1454080 道 7. field (e.g. of medicine); subject; speciality

3.

[exp,n]
▶ love affairs
▶ romance

History:

18.	A 2020-07-12 22:58:33 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Yes, the "that" is better.
17.	A* 2020-07-12 16:07:06 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	daij, 中辞典 prog: 彼はすでに70代だが，その道にかけてはなかなかの男だ He is already in his seventies, but 「he's still quite a playboy [he still has quite an eye for women].
	Comments:	this -> that The sense 2 glosses need "that" in front of them. There's another sense we were missing.
	Diff:	@@ -16 +16 @@ -<gloss>this road (path, street, way, etc.)</gloss> +<gloss>that road (path, street, way, etc.)</gloss> @@ -21,4 +21,10 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="1454080">道・みち・7</xref> -<gloss>line (of business)</gloss> -<gloss>profession</gloss> -<gloss>trade</gloss> +<xref type="see" seq="1454080">道・7</xref> +<gloss>that line (of business)</gloss> +<gloss>that profession</gloss> +<gloss>that trade</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&exp;</pos> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<gloss>love affairs</gloss> +<gloss>romance</gloss>
16.	A 2020-07-12 06:22:41 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	OK, I'll drop the note and switch senses. Probably better this way.
	Diff:	@@ -15,0 +16,5 @@ +<gloss>this road (path, street, way, etc.)</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&exp;</pos> +<pos>&n;</pos> @@ -21,6 +25,0 @@ -<sense> -<pos>&exp;</pos> -<pos>&n;</pos> -<s_inf>usual meaning</s_inf> -<gloss>this road (path, street, way, etc.)</gloss> -</sense>
15.	A* 2020-06-22 03:04:45 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I'm OK having this as an entry (and prob. あの道 and この道) but I don't think the 2nd sense should be there. Either we do every single sense from 道, or we do just one, or we're being misleading. If it really must be kept, I think the note must go. What does "usual meaning" mean? I have my doubts it's actually "usual" as in "more common." But if it were, why isn't it sense 1? I think small inconsistencies like these makes the dictionary harder to use.
14.	A 2020-06-20 00:44:19 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Probably time to call it a day on this one. I'm leaving it in largely because of its presence in the JEs. I'm also leaving in the "usual meaning" because I'm aware this is primarily a decoding/passive dictionary and there's a risk that learners might think sense 1 is the only meaning of the expression. I see that GG5 also has この道 entry referencing the same sense of 道 (but not one for あの道.) [Daijr has a この道 entry too; for the 1927 song "この道はいつか来た道".]
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13.	A* 2020-06-03 01:48:57 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	koj
	Comments:	the kokugos have this too, but i agree that it's awkward
	Diff:	@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>其の道</keb>
12.	A* 2020-04-03 01:43:13 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	この道 701238 その道 508707 あの道 45677 The expressions この道/その道 are very common, but you'll also see あの道 with this meaning, e.g. あの道10年 gets plenty of google hits. If we keep その道, we should at the very least also have この道, but should we also do あの道, then? At that stage, it's starting to feel a little ridiculous. Also I don't think "usual meaning" in sense 2 is a good note. Should that sense even be included? What about the other 道 senses, why aren't they included if this one is?
11.	A* 2020-04-03 00:29:18 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Reopen.
10.	A 2020-04-03 00:28:57 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	My 3 online JEs all have entries for this one: - GG5 points to the "field; subject; speciality" sense of 道/みち, where there are a couple of examples of this - 中辞典: (1) 〈職業〉 the line (of business); the profession; the trade; 〈芸道〉 the art; 〈分野〉 the field - ルミナス: (専門･職業) the line　★口語的; (研究の分野) the field; (芸道) the art.
	Comments:	This is expression is using a low-order sense of 道/みち, which is probably why the JEs include it. I think we should too. In line with the JEs, I propose making it the first sense. I'll lock this in and reopen.
	Diff:	@@ -13,5 +12,0 @@ -<gloss>this road (path, street, way, etc.)</gloss> -</sense> -<sense> -<pos>&exp;</pos> -<pos>&n;</pos> @@ -22,0 +18,6 @@ +<sense> +<pos>&exp;</pos> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<s_inf>usual meaning</s_inf> +<gloss>this road (path, street, way, etc.)</gloss> +</sense>
9.	A* 2020-04-02 15:53:32 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I agree it probably isn't needed.
8.	A* 2020-04-02 12:58:16 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Should this really be an entry? この道 with the same meaning is prob more common but isn't an entry. Really this should be covered by the 道 entry, shouldn't it?
7.	A 2018-07-06 21:54:35 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -18 +18 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="1454080">道・みち・5</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="1454080">道・みち・7</xref>
6.	A 2018-04-21 04:35:12 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
5.	A* 2018-04-17 12:29:52 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Do we really need to point out that "this road" is the usual meaning? I think the comment can be dropped.
	Diff:	@@ -13 +12,0 @@ -<s_inf>usual meaning</s_inf>
4.	A 2018-04-17 10:51:34 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	No more comments.
3.	A* 2018-03-31 06:40:02 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Yes, probably.
	Diff:	@@ -11,0 +12,7 @@ +<pos>&n;</pos> +<s_inf>usual meaning</s_inf> +<gloss>this road (path, street, way, etc.)</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&exp;</pos> +<pos>&n;</pos> @@ -17,5 +23,0 @@ -<sense> -<pos>&exp;</pos> -<s_inf>usual meaning</s_inf> -<gloss>this road (path, street, way, etc.)</gloss> -</sense>
2.	A* 2018-03-31 03:10:49 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	If it's the "(more) usual meaning", shouldn't it come first?
1.	A* 2018-03-29 06:34:07 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	GG5
	Comments:	The entry is being matched against the far more common regular construction.
	Diff:	@@ -11,0 +12 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="1454080">道・みち・5</xref> @@ -15,0 +17,5 @@ +<sense> +<pos>&exp;</pos> +<s_inf>usual meaning</s_inf> +<gloss>this road (path, street, way, etc.)</gloss> +</sense>

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jmdict 2029110 Rejected (id: 2072804)

な [spec1]

1.

[prt]
《prohibitive; used with dictionary form verb》
▶ don't

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 2751590 わいの 1. indicates emotion and emphasis

2.

[prt] [abbr]
《imperative; used with masu stem verb》
▶ do

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 2192950 【なさい】 1. do ...

3.

[int]
▶ hey
▶ listen
▶ you

4.

[prt]
《when seeking confirmation, for emphasis, etc.; used at sentence end》
▶ now, ...
▶ well, ...
▶ I tell you!
▶ you know

5.

[prt]
《used to express admiration, emotionality, etc.; used at sentence end》
▶ wow
▶ ooh

History:

16.	R 2020-06-20 00:20:26 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Fork. Must be rejected.
15.	A* 2020-06-20 00:16:46 Nicolas Maia
	Comments:	I'm ok with Marcus's suggestion
14.	A* 2020-05-22 14:05:50 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I don't think it should be tagged as abbr (and I don't think the xref to なさい is helpful). daijr for example says 〔補助動詞「なさる」の命令の言い方「なさい」を省略したものからなさい is the etymology, it's not right to say it's an actual abbreviation of it today.
13.	A 2020-05-22 08:23:21 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Until 2018 there was a "from なさい" note,
12.	A* 2020-05-21 23:24:50 Nicolas Maia
	Refs:	https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/2707/using-な-in-positive-instead-of-negative-imperative-e-g-行きな
	Diff:	@@ -14,0 +15,2 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="2192950">なさい</xref> +<misc>&abbr;</misc>
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11.	A 2018-03-30 02:58:47 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	OK, let's close it for now.
10.	A* 2018-03-29 02:16:24 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	So to clarify my stance, I don't disagree with Robin that it's kind of dubious how helpful these glosses really are, but I prefer having them to moving what I think should obviously be usage notes to expl. I think we should try and be as consistent with our expl/note usage as possible.
9.	A* 2018-03-02 22:32:44 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Reopening. In a forked edit Marcus commented: I don't see how the [expl] glosses would be different from the notes, though...? I mean, if they are notes on usage, they should be in the notes. I've said it before on the mailing list though; I think we should let through senses which have notes but no gloss into the database.
8.	A 2018-03-02 22:31:40 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	OK. I'll approve to lock in this order and fix examples, and then reopen. I've suggested some extra glosses for 4 which match what I'm seeing.
	Diff:	@@ -28 +28,4 @@ -<gloss>now</gloss> +<gloss>now, ...</gloss> +<gloss>well, ...</gloss> +<gloss>I tell you!</gloss> +<gloss>you know</gloss> @@ -34 +37 @@ -<gloss>o</gloss> +<gloss>ooh</gloss>
7.	A* 2018-03-02 18:30:51 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I just don't think it's helpful to translate a particle like this (perhaps with the exception of sense 1). I don't associate "do" with imperative sentences and I think it's impossible to come up with translations for senses 4 and 5. I can't see how "now", "wow" and "o" would aid with translation or understanding. Since we can't just have notes, I'd make [expl] glosses out of the notes.
	Diff:	@@ -19 +19 @@ -<pos>&prt;</pos> +<pos>∫</pos>
6.	A* 2018-03-02 17:08:19 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	But sense 1 was previously literally just "emotionality/emphasis". "emphasis" is in sense 4 and "emotionality" is in sense 5.
5.	A* 2018-03-02 09:19:24 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Having trouble seeing it. There are 200+ sentences for the former sense 1, e.g. 「相変わらず短気だな」麗華の拳をいなしながら言う。"Short tempered as ever." He said while dodging Reika's fist. 「金なら貸さないからな」、俺はにべもなく言った。"If it's money then I'm not lending any" I said point blank. I can't see then fitting senses 4 or 5, but they're fine for the old sense 1. (Something odd going on with xrefs.)
	Diff:	@@ -20,2 +20 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref> -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> @@ -33,2 +31,0 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref> -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref>
4.	A* 2018-03-01 17:33:51 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Senses 4 and 5.
	Diff:	@@ -20,2 +20,2 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> -<xref type="see">なあ</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref> @@ -33,2 +33,2 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> -<xref type="see">なあ</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref>
3.	A* 2018-03-01 02:52:18 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	What's happened to the former sense 1? It has an example sentence and there's an xref pointing to it.
	Diff:	@@ -21 +21 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> +<xref type="see">なあ</xref> @@ -34 +34 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> +<xref type="see">なあ</xref>
2.	A* 2018-01-19 21:17:16 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	chujiten
	Comments:	A first attempt to improve this entry. It probably needs some work, still, not least to add the various meanings it can have in ksb...
	Diff:	@@ -10 +10,2 @@ -<gloss>(sentence end, mainly masc.) indicates emotion or emphasis</gloss> +<s_inf>prohibitive; used with dictionary form verb</s_inf> +<gloss>don't</gloss> @@ -14,3 +15,2 @@ -<misc>&abbr;</misc> -<s_inf>from なさい</s_inf> -<gloss>(used with masu stem verb) command</gloss> +<s_inf>imperative; used with masu stem verb</s_inf> +<gloss>do</gloss> @@ -20 +20,18 @@ -<gloss>(used with dictionary form verb) prohibition</gloss> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> +<gloss>hey</gloss> +<gloss>listen</gloss> +<gloss>you</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&prt;</pos> +<s_inf>when seeking confirmation, for emphasis, etc.; used at sentence end</s_inf> +<gloss>now</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&prt;</pos> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> +<s_inf>used to express admiration, emotionality, etc.; used at sentence end</s_inf> +<gloss>wow</gloss> +<gloss>o</gloss>
1.	A 2005-03-05 00:00:00
	Comments:	Entry created

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jmdict 2029110 Active (id: 2167230)

な [spec1] ；なあ [spec1] ；なー [spec1] ；なぁ

1.

(な only) [prt]
《prohibitive; used with dictionary form verb》
▶ don't

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 2834340 すんな 1. don't
	⇐ see: 2751590 わいの 1. indicates emotion and emphasis

2.

(な only) [prt]
《imperative (from なさい); used with -masu stem of verb》
▶ do

3.

[int]
《used to get someone's attention or press one's point》
▶ hey
▶ listen
▶ look
▶ say

4.

[prt]
《when seeking confirmation, for emphasis, etc.; used at sentence end》
▶ now, ...
▶ well, ...
▶ I tell you!
▶ you know

5.

[prt]
《used to express admiration, emotionality, etc.; used at sentence end》
▶ wow
▶ ooh

6.

[prt] Dialect: ksb
《used as a request for confirmation or agreement; used at sentence end》
▶ right?
▶ isn't it?
▶ doesn't it?
▶ don't you?
▶ don't you think?

History:

25.	A 2021-12-02 01:14:36 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	From deleted entry.
	Diff:	@@ -32,0 +33 @@ +<s_inf>used to get someone's attention or press one's point</s_inf> @@ -35 +36,2 @@ -<gloss>you</gloss> +<gloss>look</gloss> +<gloss>say</gloss>
24.	A 2021-11-01 10:50:59 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	aligning w other senses (but not sure which is best)
	Diff:	@@ -53 +53 @@ -<s_inf>at sentence end; used as a request for confirmation or agreement</s_inf> +<s_inf>used as a request for confirmation or agreement; used at sentence end</s_inf>
23.	A 2021-11-01 09:39:44 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
22.	A* 2021-11-01 00:42:10 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/663842052fda2bba03b7dc8a247d5afad9653f97 "真面目だったなぁ。"
	Diff:	@@ -14,0 +15,3 @@ +</r_ele> +<r_ele> +<reb>なぁ</reb>
21.	A* 2021-10-30 08:03:24 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/44f25ca79e3a0c1195675b0c24c26bbb943f4fc1 なんかあっという間に終わったなあっていう、何も感じなかったっていうのが正直な感想。
	Comments:	suggest merging in なあ as it can be used for 3 out of 5 senses here. adding one ksb sense also (though there's more), copied it from ね
	Diff:	@@ -7,0 +8,8 @@ +<r_ele> +<reb>なあ</reb> +<re_pri>spec1</re_pri> +</r_ele> +<r_ele> +<reb>なー</reb> +<re_pri>spec1</re_pri> +</r_ele> @@ -8,0 +17 @@ +<stagr>な</stagr> @@ -13,0 +23 @@ +<stagr>な</stagr> @@ -20,2 +29,0 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> @@ -38,0 +47,10 @@ +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&prt;</pos> +<s_inf>at sentence end; used as a request for confirmation or agreement</s_inf> +<dial>&ksb;</dial> +<gloss>right?</gloss> +<gloss>isn't it?</gloss> +<gloss>doesn't it?</gloss> +<gloss>don't you?</gloss> +<gloss>don't you think?</gloss>
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20.	A 2020-08-25 07:06:56 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -15 +15 @@ -<s_inf>imperative (from なさい); used with masu stem verb</s_inf> +<s_inf>imperative (from なさい); used with -masu stem of verb</s_inf>
19.	A 2020-06-20 16:12:58 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Nicolas: No worries. Jim: looks better.
18.	A* 2020-06-20 11:24:08 Nicolas Maia
	Comments:	Just to be clear, I don't do it on purpose.
17.	A* 2020-06-20 00:25:57 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Nicolas (forked comment): "I'm ok with Marcus's suggestion." Please note that comments and amendments MUST be attached to the most recent addition. Attaching a comment to an earlier one creates a "fork" in the flow of amendments, which can only be resolved by rejecting a branch.
16.	A* 2020-06-19 23:09:55 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Well, I've implemented my suggestion from last month. OK?
	Diff:	@@ -15,2 +15 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2192950">なさい</xref> -<s_inf>imperative; used with masu stem verb</s_inf> +<s_inf>imperative (from なさい); used with masu stem verb</s_inf>
15.	A* 2020-05-22 21:10:34 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I'd missed the addition of "abbr"; I agree it's not. I'd prefer a note about なさい, as there was earlier. Reinstate and remove xref?
	Diff:	@@ -16 +15,0 @@ -<misc>&abbr;</misc>
14.	A* 2020-05-22 14:05:50 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I don't think it should be tagged as abbr (and I don't think the xref to なさい is helpful). daijr for example says 〔補助動詞「なさる」の命令の言い方「なさい」を省略したものからなさい is the etymology, it's not right to say it's an actual abbreviation of it today.
13.	A 2020-05-22 08:23:21 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Until 2018 there was a "from なさい" note,
12.	A* 2020-05-21 23:24:50 Nicolas Maia
	Refs:	https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/2707/using-な-in-positive-instead-of-negative-imperative-e-g-行きな
	Diff:	@@ -14,0 +15,2 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="2192950">なさい</xref> +<misc>&abbr;</misc>
11.	A 2018-03-30 02:58:47 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	OK, let's close it for now.
10.	A* 2018-03-29 02:16:24 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	So to clarify my stance, I don't disagree with Robin that it's kind of dubious how helpful these glosses really are, but I prefer having them to moving what I think should obviously be usage notes to expl. I think we should try and be as consistent with our expl/note usage as possible.
9.	A* 2018-03-02 22:32:44 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Reopening. In a forked edit Marcus commented: I don't see how the [expl] glosses would be different from the notes, though...? I mean, if they are notes on usage, they should be in the notes. I've said it before on the mailing list though; I think we should let through senses which have notes but no gloss into the database.
8.	A 2018-03-02 22:31:40 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	OK. I'll approve to lock in this order and fix examples, and then reopen. I've suggested some extra glosses for 4 which match what I'm seeing.
	Diff:	@@ -28 +28,4 @@ -<gloss>now</gloss> +<gloss>now, ...</gloss> +<gloss>well, ...</gloss> +<gloss>I tell you!</gloss> +<gloss>you know</gloss> @@ -34 +37 @@ -<gloss>o</gloss> +<gloss>ooh</gloss>
7.	A* 2018-03-02 18:30:51 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I just don't think it's helpful to translate a particle like this (perhaps with the exception of sense 1). I don't associate "do" with imperative sentences and I think it's impossible to come up with translations for senses 4 and 5. I can't see how "now", "wow" and "o" would aid with translation or understanding. Since we can't just have notes, I'd make [expl] glosses out of the notes.
	Diff:	@@ -19 +19 @@ -<pos>&prt;</pos> +<pos>∫</pos>
6.	A* 2018-03-02 17:08:19 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	But sense 1 was previously literally just "emotionality/emphasis". "emphasis" is in sense 4 and "emotionality" is in sense 5.
5.	A* 2018-03-02 09:19:24 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Having trouble seeing it. There are 200+ sentences for the former sense 1, e.g. 「相変わらず短気だな」麗華の拳をいなしながら言う。"Short tempered as ever." He said while dodging Reika's fist. 「金なら貸さないからな」、俺はにべもなく言った。"If it's money then I'm not lending any" I said point blank. I can't see then fitting senses 4 or 5, but they're fine for the old sense 1. (Something odd going on with xrefs.)
	Diff:	@@ -20,2 +20 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref> -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> @@ -33,2 +31,0 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref> -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref>
4.	A* 2018-03-01 17:33:51 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Senses 4 and 5.
	Diff:	@@ -20,2 +20,2 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> -<xref type="see">なあ</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref> @@ -33,2 +33,2 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> -<xref type="see">なあ</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ・1</xref>
3.	A* 2018-03-01 02:52:18 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	What's happened to the former sense 1? It has an example sentence and there's an xref pointing to it.
	Diff:	@@ -21 +21 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> +<xref type="see">なあ</xref> @@ -34 +34 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> +<xref type="see">なあ</xref>
2.	A* 2018-01-19 21:17:16 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	chujiten
	Comments:	A first attempt to improve this entry. It probably needs some work, still, not least to add the various meanings it can have in ksb...
	Diff:	@@ -10 +10,2 @@ -<gloss>(sentence end, mainly masc.) indicates emotion or emphasis</gloss> +<s_inf>prohibitive; used with dictionary form verb</s_inf> +<gloss>don't</gloss> @@ -14,3 +15,2 @@ -<misc>&abbr;</misc> -<s_inf>from なさい</s_inf> -<gloss>(used with masu stem verb) command</gloss> +<s_inf>imperative; used with masu stem verb</s_inf> +<gloss>do</gloss> @@ -20 +20,18 @@ -<gloss>(used with dictionary form verb) prohibition</gloss> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> +<gloss>hey</gloss> +<gloss>listen</gloss> +<gloss>you</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&prt;</pos> +<s_inf>when seeking confirmation, for emphasis, etc.; used at sentence end</s_inf> +<gloss>now</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&prt;</pos> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2100620">なあ</xref> +<s_inf>used to express admiration, emotionality, etc.; used at sentence end</s_inf> +<gloss>wow</gloss> +<gloss>o</gloss>
1.	A 2005-03-05 00:00:00
	Comments:	Entry created

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jmdict 2052210 Active (id: 2200276)
腹八分目；腹８分目
【はらはちぶんめ】

1.

[n]
▶ being moderate in eating
▶ stopping short of stuffing oneself

History:

6.	A 2022-08-01 02:17:34 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Remove unsupported yoji tag -- via bulkupd.py --
	Diff:	@@ -15 +14,0 @@ -<misc>&yoji;</misc>
5.	A 2021-06-30 22:03:09 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Full width.
	Diff:	@@ -8 +8 @@ -<keb>腹8分目</keb> +<keb>腹８分目</keb>
4.	A 2018-03-29 10:41:30 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
3.	A* 2018-03-29 03:55:03 Annamaria
	Comments:	for searching
	Diff:	@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>腹8分目</keb>
2.	A 2014-08-25 02:38:15 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Kanji Haitani list
	Comments:	Adding yoji tagAdding yoji tag -- via bulkupd.py --
	Diff:	@@ -11,0 +12 @@ +<misc>&yoji;</misc>
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1.	A 2005-06-10 00:00:00
	Comments:	Entry created

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jmdict 2057540 Active (id: 2085070)
実機
【じっき】

1.	[n] ▶ real machine (as opposed to a model or simulation) ▶ actual machine ▶ actual device
2.	[n] ▶ real aeroplane ▶ actual aircraft

History:

6.	A 2020-10-24 11:19:40 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -12 +12 @@ -<gloss>real machine (as opposed to model or simulation)</gloss> +<gloss>real machine (as opposed to a model or simulation)</gloss>
5.	A 2020-10-23 23:01:44 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
4.	A* 2020-10-23 22:33:31 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	reverso
	Comments:	Probably clearer as two senses.
	Diff:	@@ -12,0 +13,5 @@ +<gloss>actual machine</gloss> +<gloss>actual device</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> @@ -13,0 +19 @@ +<gloss>actual aircraft</gloss>
3.	A 2018-03-29 23:41:53 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
2.	A* 2018-03-29 19:07:18 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5 daijr: "実物の機械や飛行機。「―訓練」"
	Comments:	"existing equipment" looks odd to me.
	Diff:	@@ -13 +13 @@ -<gloss>existing equipment</gloss> +<gloss>real aeroplane</gloss>
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1.	A 2005-06-10 00:00:00
	Comments:	Entry created

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jmdict 2647260 Active (id: 1975501)
見世物小屋；見せ物小屋
【みせものごや】

1.

[n]
▶ show tent
▶ circus tent
▶ freak show

History:

4.	A 2018-03-29 23:45:37 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Indeed
3.	A* 2018-03-29 15:27:48
	Refs:	http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/見世物小屋
	Diff:	@@ -11 +11 @@ -<reb>みせものこや</reb> +<reb>みせものごや</reb>
2.	A 2011-07-14 06:55:18 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2011-07-14 05:40:39 Nils Roland Barth <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/見世物小屋

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jmdict 2757200 Active (id: 1975487)
通訳案内士；通訳案内師 [iK]
【つうやくあんないし】

1.

[n] [obs]
▶ tour guide-interpreter
▶ [expl] tour guide licensed for guiding foreigners in Japan

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 2835167 全国通訳案内士 1. tour guide-interpreter; tour guide licensed for guiding foreigners in Japan

History:

11.	A 2018-03-29 10:40:52 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
10.	A* 2018-03-29 02:50:55 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Obsolete since January 4 this year, in favor of 全国通訳案内士
	Diff:	@@ -16 +16,2 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2757520">通訳ガイド</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2835167">全国通訳案内士</xref> +<misc>&obs;</misc>
9.	A 2013-09-06 00:53:06 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
8.	A* 2013-09-06 00:48:46 Hendrik
	Comments:	Roger. "iK" is probably the best marker we have right now...
7.	A 2013-09-05 11:28:09 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Comments noted. It could be quite ephemeral, never really catch on, etc. Since it's an alterntive kanji form, I guess we can bend and add it, but I'll mark it as "iK" which means it's "irregular kanji". If it get more common over the years, that tag could be dropped. We have the "obsc" tag (obscure), but that applies to the whole entry; not just individual surface forms or readings.
	Diff:	@@ -6,0 +6,4 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>通訳案内師</keb> +<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>
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6.	A* 2013-09-05 07:31:08 Hendrik
	Refs:	http://pr.cgiboy.com/07411640/
	Comments:	Allow me to add to the comments: ;-) The cited site of the Chamber of Commerce in Sapporo seems pretty authoritative to me - especially in view of the accompanying photo that shows that more than 50% of the people who were certified on that occasion were women. ;-) On one occasion i met a teacher of Japanese who (emphatically) told me that 看護師 was the wrong term when denoting a certain female acquaintance and that i should use 看護婦 (i didn't say anything at that time, although i knew that the professional nurses association in Japan thinks otherwise). So i think with 案内師 we are probably witnessing language change in action, toward a more gender neutral expression (and i imagine especially educated bi-/multi-lingual foreigners might well be contributing to that trend). In any case, maybe it is time to create another marker, along the lines of "obsolete", to indicate "too new/rare to know whether it will become established". :-) Here is, by the way, another interesting (older) item: http://kindai.ndl.go.jp/info:ndljp/pid/854858
5.	A 2013-08-28 22:59:44 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	41 Google hits cf 450k for 通訳案内士. I see 案内師 is getting some use generally, although about 1% of the usage level of 案内士. I think I'd like to see this more widely used before giving it a place.
	Diff:	@@ -5,1 +5,1 @@ -<keb>通訳案内士,通訳案内師</keb> +<keb>通訳案内士</keb>
4.	A* 2013-08-28 07:14:48 Marcus Richert
	Refs:	"通訳案内師" -"通訳案内士" 14 results on bing nothing on ngram
	Comments:	several of the examples Hendrik posted were actually penned by non-native speakers... in the lang-8 example (written by somebody learning Japanese), "案内師" is even marked as incorrect by a native speaker. too few hits to be wortwhile to add even as an ik, in my opinion.
3.	A* 2013-08-28 06:27:08 Hendrik
	Refs:	https://www.sapporo-cci.or.jp/content/details/business/2012/05/post-30.html http://lang-8.com/114456/journals/400200/下見の内容 http://kint.jp/wte/prfdtlfrm/34 http://www.chishokan.co.jp/t-oyako.html http://www.1hangul.com/fts/detail_8032.html http://kohada.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/job/1338009632/266 and more...
	Comments:	Using 師 instead of 士 makes the expression gender neutral, (analoguous to the usage change from 看護婦/看護士 to 看護師 that the Japanese Nursing Association adopted some years ago).
	Diff:	@@ -5,1 +5,1 @@ -<keb>通訳案内士</keb> +<keb>通訳案内士,通訳案内師</keb>
2.	A 2012-11-18 00:21:09 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	ＫＯＤ追加語彙 (equates with 通訳ガイド)
	Diff:	@@ -12,0 +12,1 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="2757520">通訳ガイド</xref>
1.	A* 2012-11-14 05:40:47 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	cross, wiki http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/通訳案�% 86%85%E5%A3%AB en: http://www.mlit.go.jp/kankocho/en/shisaku/kokusai/tsuyaku.ht ml ja: http://www.mlit.go.jp/kankocho/shisaku/kokusai/tsuyaku.html http://www.jnto.go.jp/jpn/interpreter_guide_exams/index.html

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jmdict 2835110 Active (id: 1975459)
推尊
【すいそん】

1.

[n,vs] [rare]
▶ revering
▶ idolizing

Conjugations

History:

2.	A 2018-03-29 01:39:52 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	daijs ngrams 推尊 4 daijr example: 1884 daijs example: 1888
	Comments:	My IME didn't want have anything to do with this. I was going to say arch but we treat Meiji as contemporary, right? So maybe obsc is fitting.
	Diff:	@@ -12,0 +13 @@ +<misc>&obsc;</misc>
1.	A* 2018-03-22 09:44:12 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Koj, Daijr, JWN

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jmdict 2835112 Active (id: 1975457)
吟醸
【ぎんじょう】

1.

[n] [abbr]
▶ ginjō sake
▶ [expl] high-quality sake brewed by low temperature fermentation from white rice milled to 60%

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 1984600 吟醸酒 1. ginjō sake; high-quality sake brewed by low temperature fermentation from white rice milled to 60%

History:

2.	A 2018-03-29 01:35:11 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-22 10:08:46 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	GG5: ぎんじょう(しゅ)【吟醸(酒)】

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jmdict 2835133 Rejected (id: 1975464)

すっごい

1.

[adj-i] [col]
▶ terrible
▶ dreadful
▶ terrific
▶ amazing
▶ great
▶ wonderful
▶ to a great extent

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 1374550 凄い 1. terrible; dreadful
	⇒ see: 1374550 凄い 2. amazing (e.g. of strength); great (e.g. of skills); wonderful; terrific
	⇒ see: 1374550 凄い 3. to a great extent; vast (in numbers)

Conjugations

History:

3.	R 2018-03-29 02:19:50 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Fork
2.	A* 2018-03-29 02:04:17 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Wouldn't this be better as an additional reading on the すんごい entry?
1.	A* 2018-03-25 09:24:17 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	G n-grams 2327048 3 examples in Tanaka
	Comments:	aligning with すんごい, すげい and すげー entries

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jmdict 2835166 Active (id: 1975484)

グリッドガール；グリッド・ガール

1.

[n]
▶ grid girl

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 2394970 レースクイーン 1. pit babe; paddock girl; grid girl

History:

2.	A 2018-03-29 10:38:57 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-29 02:38:14 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	知恵蔵mini ngrams 25
	Comments:	I think more commonly レースクイーン in Japanese

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jmdict 2835167 Active (id: 1975481)
全国通訳案内士
【ぜんこくつうやくあんないし】

1.

[n]
▶ tour guide-interpreter
▶ [expl] tour guide licensed for guiding foreigners in Japan

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 2757200 通訳案内士【つうやくあんないし】 1. tour guide-interpreter; tour guide licensed for guiding foreigners in Japan

History:

2.	A 2018-03-29 10:36:29 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-29 02:50:38 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	http://www.mlit.go.jp/kankocho/shisaku/kokusai/tsuyaku.html
	Comments:	New term for 通訳案内士 since the law regulating this changed this year. Might as well add it in already.

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jmdict 2835168 Active (id: 2197887)
腹八分目に医者いらず；腹八分目に医者要らず；腹８分目に医者要らず
【はらはちぶんめにいしゃいらず】

1.

[exp] [proverb]
▶ eating moderately keeps the doctor away

History:

7.	A 2022-07-22 11:00:49 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	に医者いらず 1323 57.6% に医者要らず 972 42.4% there's also another version without the 目腹八分目に医者 1094 72.9% 腹八分に医者 406 27.1%
	Diff:	@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@ +<k_ele> +<keb>腹八分目に医者いらず</keb> +</k_ele>
6.	A 2021-07-02 23:47:29 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Better.
5.	A* 2021-07-02 03:15:48
	Diff:	@@ -16 +16 @@ -<gloss>eat moderately to avoid the doctor</gloss> +<gloss>eating moderately keeps the doctor away</gloss>
4.	A 2021-07-01 11:18:49 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -14,0 +15 @@ +<misc>&proverb;</misc>
3.	A 2021-06-30 22:04:48 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Full width.
	Diff:	@@ -8 +8 @@ -<keb>腹8分目に医者要らず</keb> +<keb>腹８分目に医者要らず</keb>
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2.	A 2018-03-29 10:42:14 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-29 03:55:15 Annamaria
	Refs:	http://kotowaza-allguide.com/ha/harahachibunme.html

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jmdict 2835169 Active (id: 2153392)

リディア；リュディア

1.

[n] [hist]
▶ Lydia (Iron Age kingdom of Asia Minor)

History:

3.	A 2021-10-23 14:19:40 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -11,0 +12 @@ +<misc>&hist;</misc>
2.	A 2018-03-29 10:44:57 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-29 06:04:40 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	daijr, wiki

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jmdict 2835170 Active (id: 1975485)

エンゼルケーキ；エンゼル・ケーキ

1.

[n]
▶ angel cake
▶ angel food cake

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 2835171 エンゼルフードケーキ 1. angel food cake; angel cake

History:

2.	A 2018-03-29 10:39:32 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-29 08:47:34 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	daijs eij

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jmdict 2835171 Active (id: 1975483)

エンゼルフードケーキ；エンゼル・フード・ケーキ

1.

[n]
▶ angel food cake
▶ angel cake

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 2835170 エンゼルケーキ 1. angel cake; angel food cake

History:

2.	A 2018-03-29 10:38:09 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-29 08:48:59 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	和・洋・中・エスニック　世界の料理がわかる辞典 ngrams エンゼルケーキ 23 エンゼルフードケーキ 8

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jmdict 2835172 Active (id: 1975948)
手先が不器用
【てさきがぶきよう】

1.

[exp,adj-na]
▶ clumsy with one's hands
▶ all thumbs

History:

2.	A 2018-04-05 04:57:10 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2018-03-29 10:35:33 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	2 GG5 examples, Eijiro, 1 Tanaka sentence. 手先が不器用 8489 手先が不器用な 4245 手先が不器用で 1497 手先が不器用なので 1064 手先が不器用な私 591 手先が不器用だ 579 ...
	Comments:	Not uncommon, and the meaning isn't immediately clear as 手先 usually refers to fingers whereas this expression would be translated as relating to the hands.

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jmdict 2835173 Active (id: 1975503)

トラベルマグ；トラベル・マグ

1.

[n]
▶ travel mug
▶ flask

History:

2.	A 2018-03-29 23:50:22 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	https://www.house.com.au/kitchen/coffee-~-tea/travel-mugs-~-flasks
	Comments:	Often "travel mug" in English.
	Diff:	@@ -6,0 +7,3 @@ +<r_ele> +<reb>トラベル・マグ</reb> +</r_ele> @@ -9 +12,2 @@ -<gloss>flask (wasei: travel mug)</gloss> +<gloss>travel mug</gloss> +<gloss>flask</gloss>
1.	A* 2018-03-29 20:18:13
	Refs:	https://www.amazon.co.jp/OXO-トラベル-マグ-シルバー-11144500/dp/B00XF97JB6

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1.	[n] ▶ finance ▶ financing ▶ credit transacting ▶ loaning of money ▶ circulation of money
2.	[adj-no] ▶ monetary ▶ financial ▶ credit

17.	A 2018-03-30 01:13:51 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Let's close this one off for now. It can be revisited if we look more deeply into POSs.
16.	A* 2018-03-29 01:57:10 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I've kept out of this until now, but I'm in general agreement with Robin that here are cases where の is truly adjectival, and others where it's clearly not, but just an "of", of sorts. 結婚, like Robin mentioned, is a good example of the second category. There's still some merit to adding "adj-no" as a separate sense with separate adjectival glosses for not- truly-adjectival usage of の in entries like this one, like both eij and gg5 do. It's good for reverse searches, sure, but more importantly, it's also helpful to translators trying to come up with the right English term for a Japanese word. That said, GG5 usually splits out every PoS, e.g. they'll usually lead with noun definitions, followed by ～な and separate adjectival definitions, ～する, and so on. If we're not following their example on splitting n and adj-na, etc., I don't think it makes much sense to treat adj-no different from any other PoS.
15.	A* 2018-03-23 01:19:00 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I don't want to expend any more effort on this debate so I'm going to let it go. Feel free to accept the amendment. I just want it on the record that I disagree. It does feel like no one gets what I'm saying. To me it seems quite obvious that 金融のグローバル化 doesn't demonstrate [adj-no] usage any more than 数学の問題 (mathematical problem) or 企業の体質 (corporate culture) do. They're trivial cases we can forget about.
14.	A* 2018-03-22 07:16:49 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Gngrams: 金融 19360443 金融の 2406250 金融は 291791 金融を 218573 金融に　101698 金融で　101283 金融が 54581 ------- 金融の充実 695037 金融の導入 283717 金融の対象 264709 金融の推進 215796 金融の実状 49090 金融の審査 39721
	Comments:	The ngrams support [adj-no]
13.	A* 2018-03-22 04:50:06 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	GG5: 金融の monetary; financial; credit ・金融のグローバル化 financial globalization ・金融の中心地 a 「financial [moneylending, banking] center. リーダーズ+プラス: monetary: ...,金融の,... 研究社ビジネス英和辞典: monetary ...,金融の,... Eijiro: 金融の {形} : financial●monetary ・金融のガバナンス : financial governance ・金融のグローバル化 : financial globalization many more Tatoeba: ご存知のように、東京は世界の金融の中心地だ。 Tokyo, as you know, is one of the financial centers of the world.
	Comments:	After 3 months this needs some resolution. I'm in the adj-no camp on this, and as the references/examples above show, I think it's pretty clearly in Robin's category 1. Since it would be good to have reverse lookups for "monetary" and "financial", I'm going to propose a second sense just for adj-no.
	Diff:	@@ -23,0 +24,6 @@ +<sense> +<pos>&adj-no;</pos> +<gloss>monetary</gloss> +<gloss>financial</gloss> +<gloss>credit</gloss> +</sense>
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12.	A* 2017-12-25 01:55:28 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	>> if adj-no is to be kept, i'm more on board with Johan's method of "this seems to get used a lot as a descriptor and if you look it up in gg5 and eijiro, they offer adj-no translations, so we should have it as adj-no". I really don't know why you're saying this given the discussion up to this point. My previous two comments go into detail about why translations tell us nothing useful. "金融" is no more of a "descriptor" than "人", or indeed any noun.
11.	A* 2017-12-24 23:23:58 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	reopening and removing adj-no, as it was before i closed, though i think it should remain
	Diff:	@@ -18 +17,0 @@ -<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
10.	A 2017-12-24 23:23:28 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	temporarily closing to get these entries out of the queue
	Diff:	@@ -17,0 +18 @@ +<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
9.	A* 2017-12-24 19:19:27 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	i guess my point is that i don't we have any evidence that there's a difference between category 1 and category 2 in the minds of most native speakers. i think it's the result of "this japanese-english dictionary has a PoS called [adj-no], so now i need to seek out some distinction between japanese words in order to make sense of it", even though there's no consistent japanese reference for the PoS existing at all, let alone for different categories of nouns to which it can and cannot be applied. - if adj-no is to be kept, i'm more on board with Johan's method of "this seems to get used a lot as a descriptor and if you look it up in gg5 and eijiro, they offer adj-no translations, so we should have it as adj-no". at least then we have some references we can consult to decide whether or not something should be marked [adj-no] - or we could just delete adj-no altogether since the evidence that it actually exists as a PoS is scant, and we're really just using it for our own convenience.
8.	A* 2017-12-20 03:50:49 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I probably shouldn't have used the terms "category 1" and "category 2"; I only did that for convenience. What I'm arguing is that only a small proportion of words that take の behave like adjectives. I wouldn't say this is "shoehorning Japanese into English translations"; I'm actually trying to forget English altogether. Thinking in English is part of the problem. --- Structurally, there's no difference between 金融のガバナンス and 牛の飼育 (cattle raising/raising of cattle), but I don't think anyone would say that 牛 is functioning like an adjective here. The way I see it, it's only because the English adjective "financial" exists that someone would argue that 金融 should be classified as [adj-no]. Now compare 牛の飼育 and 牛の病気. Again, these are structurally identical but because we can translate the latter as "bovine diseases", 牛の suddenly beings to look like an adjective to some people. If 金融 should be considered [adj-no], then I see no reason why 牛 shouldn't either. The question then becomes "which nouns aren't [adj-no]?" --- Simply put, it's useful to be told that words like 衝撃 can be used in in constructions like 衝撃の事実 because you can't do this with most nouns. (悲哀の事実, for example, does not mean "saddening fact"). However, we don't need to be told that 金融 can be used in constructions like 金融のガバナンス because all nouns can be used like this. I don't know how to explain in linguistic terms the difference between 衝撃の事実 and 金融のガバナンス but I feel it's clear that 衝撃 looks and behaves like a 形容詞 or 形容動詞 here whereas 金融 doesn't. --- Regarding those meikyo examples, I would say they're all [adj-no], including 鉄. 鉄 describes an attribute of 扉. Contrast with 鉄の生産.
7.	A* 2017-12-19 08:08:08 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	It is possible that in the mind of a Japanese person there is really no difference between Robin's category 1 and 2. But how could I know? -------- Here is how I go about these things 金融 is mostly used as part of longer compounds, such as 金融機関 For independent use we have the KM ngrams 金融の 16790 金融に 5255 金融と 3047 金融を 3021 金融が 1687 金融は 1572 We see that independent use is about 50% 金融の. I'd be happy to make it an [n,adj-no] ---- If we remove adj-no from the dictionary, should we use noun glosses for all these words? That can lead to some awkward glosses.
6.	A* 2017-12-18 04:35:13 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	and i mean this is also in gg5: 金融の　monetary; financial; credit ... so they don't follow the proposed categorization either. i think we'd just be making it up without reference
5.	A* 2017-12-18 04:20:57 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	i think that's a good classification, at least as far as it goes for us as non-native speakers/translators trying to turn japanese into english. what i wonder is: -- 1) is there actually a difference in japanese between your category 1 and category 2 that most japanese linguists would recognize, or is that categorization merely the result of trying to shoehorn japanese into english translations? for example, meikyo does not seem to distinguish. 状態・状況・素材などの特性を表す。「薄幸の人」「休業中の店」「鉄の扉」 if i'm following you, you would argue that 薄幸 should be an adj-no, but that 鉄 should not be an adj-no? but meikyo does not distinguish. -- 2) if this is not a recognized PoS, should we really be defining our own japanese PoS simply because it helps us translate? -- 3) what are our references for what are 'category 1' and 'category 2' nouns? if we are the only source that recognizes this, are we just making it up as we go along? are any of us qualified to be dictating japanese grammar without any reference?
4.	A* 2017-12-17 23:12:22 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I'm strongly in favour of keeping the [adj-no] tag but I think it needs a much stricter definition if it's to be of any use to anyone. As it stands, the entries that are tagged [adj-no] can be split roughly into two categories. The first comprises words that function much like 形容動詞 (na-adjectives): 衝撃 (e.g. 衝撃の告白), 地下 (e.g. 地下の水流), 使い捨て (e.g. 使い捨ての紙おむつ), 偽 (e.g. 偽のダイヤ), 厚手 (e.g. 厚手のセーター), etc. (Here I'm ignoring actual 形容動詞 that can also take の). Some of these are almost always used with の (like 厚手) while others also function as regular nouns (like 衝撃 and 地下). The second (much larger) category consists of everything that doesn't fall into the previous category — essentially any noun, e.g. 結婚, 俳優, 医師, 下痢, 喘息, 骨盤. A large proportion of these nouns have been tagged [adj-no] solely because of Eijiro, which uses [noun]-の constructions to translate thousands upon thousands of (often obscure) English adjectives (e.g. "iatric" - 医師の, "histrionic" - 俳優の). Unlike the category 1 words, these nouns do not function anything like 形容動詞. "結婚の誓い" can be translated as "marital vow" but 結婚な誓い is nonsensical (unlike 衝撃な告白 which is merely ungrammatical). What's more, you can't flip the sentence round and preserve the meaning — compare 誓いは結婚 with 告白は衝撃. When の is used with these category 2 nouns, it really means "of or relating to", and there's no end to the number of nouns for which this sort of usage is applicable. For that reason, I'm in favour of dropping [adj-no] from all category 2 nouns. If usage of the tag is restricted to words from the first category, [adj-no] actually serves a purpose and conveys useful information to the learner. Otherwise, it isn't really helpful at all. I'm sure there are cases which don't fit neatly into this 2-category model but I think it's a good starting point. I'm interested to hear other people's thoughts.
3.	A* 2017-12-17 13:35:04 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I agree with Rene that adj-no is not a real PoS. And it can often be difficult to decide whether an entry is [n] or [n,adj-no]. In such cases I'm happy to go either way. -------------------------------- But I still think that adj-no can give useful information. For instance [adj-no] = almost only used with の [adj-no,n] = usually used with の [adj-na,adj-no] = used with either な or の with the same meaning [adj-no,adj-na] = used with either の or な with the same meaning
2.	A* 2017-12-17 06:09:10 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	eij 金融の【形】 financial moneyed 金融のガバナンス financial governance 金融のグローバル化 financial globalization -- etc.
	Comments:	obviously "金融の" could just as easily be translated as "of finance" as it could be translated as "financial". but i'm not sure that [adj-no] is a real PoS at all, and this seems just as valid as some other [adj-no] that are recorded... -- (this is one of the reasons i'd prefer to get rid of [adj-no]. it's not clear when we should say that something is an adj-no or just a use of "...of [noun]", and the kokugos are useless since they don't recognize adj-no.)
1.	A* 2017-12-16 14:11:23 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	prog
	Comments:	For reverse searches. Not [adj-no].
	Diff:	@@ -18 +18 @@ -<pos>&adj-no;</pos> +<gloss>finance</gloss>

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