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言うて
ゆうてゆーて (nokanji)
1. [exp] [uk,sl]
《orig. ksb て-inflection of 言う》
▶ that said
▶ that being said



History:
5. A 2021-10-29 00:37:24  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
How's this?
  Diff:
@@ -18 +18 @@
-<s_inf>irreg. て-inflection of 言う</s_inf>
+<s_inf>orig. ksb て-inflection of 言う</s_inf>
4. A* 2021-10-21 22:20:21  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
How's this? I don't think the xref is needed. It would be good to get closure on this.
  Diff:
@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<s_inf>irreg. て-inflection of 言う</s_inf>
3. A* 2021-09-30 04:01:09  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Read the rest of the Nikkei article, apparently the intonation is not the same as in ksb: 
"SNSを介して広がったことの裏付けとなり得るのがアクセントだ。関西で使われる「言うて」は1音目の「ゆ」が高いのに対し、若者言葉のゆうてには
高い音がない。字面だけがネットで広まり、独自のアクセントで読みあげられるようになった。"
interesting/odd
2. A* 2021-09-30 03:45:14  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXMZO50734640Y9A001C1AA1P00/
"「ゆうて」という言葉をご存じだろうか。「そうは言っても」との意味を持つ若者言葉で、関西弁から派生した表現である可能性が高い。最近は関西弁の影響を受け
た若者言葉が増えているとされる。理由を探った。
東京都出身の記者(27)がゆうてを初めて耳にしたのは大学生のころ。友人たちが多用するようになって面食らった。「あした提出の課題、全然終わってない」「ゆ
うてオールすればワンチャンいける(そうは言っても徹夜して頑張れば何とかなる)」。自分が使うには抵抗を感じたものの、いまではすっかり聞き慣れてしまっ
た。"
  Comments:
I'm not sure the filler note is needed (based on the description in the Nikkei article)

I'm a little "weirded out" by this (for lack of a better word) because ゆうて is orig. Kansai-ben of 言って, something I hear often, but 
I've never heard it used like described above.

I don't want to add every single sense from 言う and try and give them conjugated glosses, what a nightmare of an entry that'd be, but 
if we allowed for entries without definitions (which I think is planned for JMdict 2.0?) I'd like to add a sense that looked something 
like this:

[1][exp][ksb]
[note="te-conjugation of 言う][see=言う] (where the xref is to all senses of いう)
  Diff:
@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<re_nokanji/>
@@ -17 +17,0 @@
-<s_inf>oft. used as a filler word</s_inf>
1. A* 2021-09-23 05:25:22  Opencooper
  Refs:
* jitsuyō: https://www.weblio.jp/content/ゆうて

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