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木星型惑星
【もくせいがたわくせい】

[n] {astronomy}
▶ gas giant (Jupiter, Saturn)

Cross references:
	⇔ see: 2830806 天王星型惑星 1. ice giant (Uranus, Neptune)
	⇐ see: 2830816 ガスジャイアント 1. gas giant
	⇐ see: 2830815 巨大ガス惑星【きょだいガスわくせい】 1. gas giant

[n] {astronomy}
▶ giant planet (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune)
▶ Jovian planet

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 2830802 大惑星【だいわくせい】 2. giant planet; Jovian planet

History:

11.	A 2021-09-12 00:15:02 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -12 +12 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2830806">天王星型惑星・てんのうせいがたわくせい</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="2830806">天王星型惑星</xref>
10.	A 2021-09-11 01:37:43 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	don't think this xref is needed
	Diff:	@@ -18,2 +17,0 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2830802">大惑星・だいわくせい</xref> -<xref type="see" seq="2830802">大惑星・だいわくせい・1</xref>
9.	A 2016-12-17 16:13:46 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I think we got it more or less right at last
8.	A* 2016-12-17 16:07:37 Robin Scott
	Comments:	Johan, this looks good. ------ Sorry, I misread the tag. Also, I of course meant to say "JAXA only includes Jupiter and Saturn in their definition of 木星型惑星" in my previous comment, but the most recent edit reflects that.
7.	A* 2016-12-16 19:46:10 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -11,0 +12 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="2830806">天王星型惑星・てんのうせいがたわくせい</xref> @@ -16,0 +18 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="2830802">大惑星・だいわくせい</xref>
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6.	A 2016-12-16 19:39:29 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Robin, obs = obsolete, obsc = obscure ---- Since this is rather confusing, I made the glosses more explicit ---- we will have to clean up the xrefs
	Diff:	@@ -13 +13 @@ -<gloss>gas giant</gloss> +<gloss>gas giant (Jupiter, Saturn)</gloss> @@ -18 +18 @@ -<gloss>giant planet</gloss> +<gloss>giant planet (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune)</gloss>
5.	A* 2016-12-16 16:12:48 Robin Scott
	Refs:	https://kotobank.jp/word/木星型惑星-142227 http://spaceinfo.jaxa.jp/ja/solar_system_formation.html
	Comments:	As can be seen from the first of the two refs above, both definitions appear in reputable sources so I wouldn't label either sense as "obscure". Daijs is right in saying that Uranus and Neptune have been reclassified as "ice giants", but contradicts itself somewhat by redirecting both 巨大ガス惑星 and 大惑星 to 木星型惑星 even though Uranus and Neptune are still very much 大惑星 (giant planets). The confusion is compounded by the fact that "gas giant" is still often used synonymous with "giant planet" in English. Given that JAXA only includes Uranus and Neptune in their definition of 木星型惑星 (ref 2), I agree with placing the "gas giant" sense first. However, I've removed "Jovian planet" from that sense because it's only ever a synonym for "gas giant" when "gas giant" refers to all four giant planets.
	Diff:	@@ -14 +13,0 @@ -<gloss>Jovian planet</gloss> @@ -19 +17,0 @@ -<misc>&obs;</misc>
4.	A* 2016-12-16 11:35:22 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	daijs
	Comments:	jwiki uses 木星型惑星 in sense 2, but I find daijs more convincing
	Diff:	@@ -12,0 +13 @@ +<gloss>gas giant</gloss> @@ -13,0 +15,5 @@ +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<field>&astron;</field> +<misc>&obs;</misc> @@ -14,0 +21 @@ +<gloss>Jovian planet</gloss>
3.	A 2016-12-16 07:54:32 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -13 +13 @@ -<gloss>jovian planet</gloss> +<gloss>Jovian planet</gloss>
2.	A 2016-12-16 02:50:50 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2016-12-15 22:31:40 Robin Scott
	Refs:	Daijr, Daijs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_planet https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/木星型惑星

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jmdict 2830801 Rejected (id: 1941268)
木星型惑星
【もくせいがたわくせい】

1.	[n] {astronomy} ▶ gas giant (Jupiter, Saturn)
2.	[n] {astronomy} ▶ giant planet (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune) ▶ Jovian planet

History:

6.	R 2016-12-16 19:35:07 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	fork
5.	A* 2016-12-16 15:02:11 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	google
	Comments:	It seems that in English the 8 planets are classified as 4 terrestrial and 4 jovian planets. In japanese they are either classified the same way, or as 4 terrestrial, 2 jovian and 2 uranian planets --- this is rather confusing, so I made the glosses more explicit
	Diff:	@@ -13,2 +13 @@ -<gloss>gas giant</gloss> -<gloss>Jovian planet</gloss> +<gloss>gas giant (Jupiter, Saturn)</gloss> @@ -19,2 +18 @@ -<misc>&obs;</misc> -<gloss>giant planet</gloss> +<gloss>giant planet (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune)</gloss>
4.	A* 2016-12-16 11:35:22 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	daijs
	Comments:	jwiki uses 木星型惑星 in sense 2, but I find daijs more convincing
	Diff:	@@ -12,0 +13 @@ +<gloss>gas giant</gloss> @@ -13,0 +15,5 @@ +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<field>&astron;</field> +<misc>&obs;</misc> @@ -14,0 +21 @@ +<gloss>Jovian planet</gloss>
3.	A 2016-12-16 07:54:32 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -13 +13 @@ -<gloss>jovian planet</gloss> +<gloss>Jovian planet</gloss>
2.	A 2016-12-16 02:50:50 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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1.	A* 2016-12-15 22:31:40 Robin Scott
	Refs:	Daijr, Daijs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_planet https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/木星型惑星

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