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A 2020-09-08 09:23:30 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Koj, Daijs (neither has あとう). Koj has 適う as well. |
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That's certainly a solution. I was a little reluctant as あとう is in Daijirin and GG5. |
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+<k_ele>
+<keb>適う</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -9,3 +11,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>あとう</reb>
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+<s_inf>plain form pronounced あとう(アトー)</s_inf> |
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A* 2020-09-08 07:01:08 dine <...address hidden...>
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remove あとう from reading and add [note="dictionary form pronounced あとう(アトー)"]? |
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A* 2020-09-08 03:53:56 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think the options here are:
(a) do nothing. (It's a very marginal situation)
(b) split 能う/あとう off into a v5u-s entry as was done with 給う. (I'm not sure it really behaves like the other v5u-s verbs.)
(c) create a special reading tag ("no-infl"?)
(d) add a note, e.g. "あとう does not inflect".
My inclination is to do (d), although (a) is tempting. Any other suggestions? |
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A* 2020-09-07 21:42:11 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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koj |
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+<pos>&vi;</pos> |
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A* 2020-09-07 15:30:54 dine <...address hidden...>
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meikyo: 表記終止形・連体形では「アトー」と発音し、「あとう」と書くことが多い。 |
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I think we should have a label for such ウ音便 readings as あとう, to indicate that it is to be pronounced アトー and not to be conjugated further.
(Only a few verbs had their ウ音便 forms split into a new stem+ending combination, e.g. 酔う(えう→よう) and 言う(いう→ゆう). Most are pronounced as a single morpheme, despite Daijirin's cross-reference entry formatting.)
It is simpler to label the ウ音便 readings than splitting them to a new entry, as we did with 給う. Doing so also avoids duplication and overloading the [v5u-s] label. |
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A 2014-11-05 01:18:12 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Daijr,GG5 |
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Daijirin says "( 動ワ五[ハ四] )", so I think we can regard it as v5u. |
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+<r_ele>
+<reb>あとう</reb>
+</r_ele>
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-<pos>&v5r;</pos>
-<gloss>to be able to</gloss>
+<pos>&v5u;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2005790">能わず・あたわず</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2825915">能う限り</xref>
+<gloss>to be able (to do)</gloss>
+<gloss>to be capable (of doing)</gloss> |
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A* 2014-11-04 20:02:14 Raph <...address hidden...>
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http://blog.mainichi-kotoba.jp/2013/08/blog-post_17.html
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1497042609 |
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Checked in a few dictionaries, all agree on the main (kanji-related) meaning of being able to, and add some different secondary meanings (agreement, appropriateness, understanding) that my level of Japanese doesn't allow me to elaborate on. 能う限り seems to be related and rare enough to require explanations for some native speakers (meaning close to できるだけ as I understood).
Ancient conjugation as 4 grade verb. |