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jmdict 2717290 Active (id: 2296404)
TV
ティー・ブイティーブイ [sk] ティーヴィー [sk]
1. [n]
《oft. read テレビ》
▶ television
▶ TV
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 1080510 テレビ 1. television; TV



History:
12. A 2024-03-28 20:47:34  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
11. A* 2024-03-28 14:45:50  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Updating readings to new style.
  Diff:
@@ -7,0 +8,3 @@
+<reb>ティー・ブイ</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
@@ -8,0 +12 @@
+<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
@@ -12,6 +16 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ティー・ブイ</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ティー・ヴィー</reb>
+<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
@@ -22 +21 @@
-<s_inf>freq. read テレビ</s_inf>
+<s_inf>oft. read テレビ</s_inf>
10. A 2017-11-30 21:53:17  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
In line with 2833798.
  Diff:
@@ -24 +24 @@
-<s_inf>freq. said テレビ</s_inf>
+<s_inf>freq. read テレビ</s_inf>
9. A 2017-11-22 11:05:25  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
OK
  Diff:
@@ -23 +23 @@
-<s_inf>occ. said テレビ</s_inf>
+<s_inf>freq. said テレビ</s_inf>
8. A* 2017-11-21 08:26:21  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
That'd be fine by me. I don't think "occassionally" is 
quite right though. I think "frequently" would be closer to 
the truth.
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jmdict 2717290 Rejected (id: 1964078)
TV
ティーブイティーヴィーティー・ブイティー・ヴィー
1. [n]
《occ. said テレビ》
▶ television
▶ TV
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 1080510 テレビ 1. television; TV

History:
8. R 2017-11-21 08:05:09  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Fork
7. A* 2017-11-21 08:00:52  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
NASA is a bit of a red herring. The Japanese say ジス for JIS and ジャスダック for JASDAQ. 
I think what we're seeing here is a sort of 義訓. People see TV and think テレビ, but like Rene I think it's too much to call テレビ a reading. I can accept 田舎 being read いなか, and (worse) 啄木鳥 being read けら, but merging テレビ into TV/ティーブイ it's a step too far.
How about a two-way xref with notes? I'll set one up here, and it can be used with OP if accepted.
  Diff:
@@ -20,0 +21,2 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1080510">テレビ・1</xref>
+<s_inf>occ. said テレビ</s_inf>
6. A* 2017-11-20 09:07:09  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
again:
https://kotobank.jp/word/どーす�%8
2%8B%21%3FTV%E3%82%BF%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AB-1717561
(TVタックル)
_
"通称はサンテレビ(SUN-TV)"
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/サンテ
%E3%83%AC%E3%83%93%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3
_
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/TVジョ�%
83%E3%82%AD%E3%83%BC
『TVジョッキー』(テレビジョッキー)
_
"テレビをTVと略すことはあっても「薄型ティーヴィー」とは言わんだ
ろ"
https://twitter.com/DimWryon/status/894785532479197185
_
テレビ番組 7.8m googits
ティーヴィー番組 58
TV番組 9.7m (not properly parsed because of the romaji 
but lots of real hits)
http://www.mag2.com/p/news/264014
「民放のTV番組は無料じゃない」と気づかぬ人がお金を失う理由
_
I showed the text "TV番組" to a native speaker and asked 
how they'd read it and they said テレビばんぐみ.
  Comments:
Abbreviations aren't always read exactly as they're 
written. Consider "etc." - if we used this spelling as a 
headword, wouldn't it make sense to add エトセトラ as a 
reading? 
daijr actually does
エトセトラ【et cetera】
以下に列挙すべき語を省略する場合に用いる。…等々。…など。その他
いろいろ。 〔etc.; &c. とも書く〕
_
"NASA" is never read as "N, A, S, A" but always as 
"Nasa". Then there's scuba, laser...
_
Some pronounce "SQL" as "sequel" 
http://patorjk.com/blog/2012/01/26/pronouncing-sql-s-q-l-
or-sequel/
_
Is it a *reading*? If it's the way it's read, I'd say 
yes.
_
Merging is maybe a little extreme since no other 
dictionary does this, I don't know, but I think there's 
at least a case for adding a note.
5. A 2017-11-20 04:31:53  Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
テレビ can't be merged in IMO.  surely a native speaker would agree that テレビ is not a *reading* of TV.
4. A* 2017-11-19 22:07:53  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
GG5, WWW hits for ティーヴィー
  Comments:
I think we need to think seriously about the issue of "readings" for acronyms/initials which are really meanings.
ティーヴィー also seems to be matching TB.
  Diff:
@@ -9,0 +10,9 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ティーヴィー</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ティー・ブイ</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ティー・ヴィー</reb>
+</r_ele>
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