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A 2018-07-24 05:27:20 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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All has been quiet. I'll close it. |
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A* 2018-06-20 06:07:03 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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せられる 1551372
がせられる 185
をせられる 4036
とせられる 1673
はせられる 616 |
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Aren't both senses ONLY aux verbs? I suggest going back to my 2010 thought bubble and just having one sense. |
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@@ -8,8 +7,0 @@
-<pos>&v1;</pos>
-<pos>&aux-v;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="2568000">られる・4</xref>
-<misc>&hon;</misc>
-<s_inf>verb used as an honorific for others' actions</s_inf>
-<gloss>to do</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
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+<xref type="see" seq="2568000">られる・4</xref>
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-<s_inf>auxiliary verb used as an honorific for others' actions</s_inf>
+<s_inf>used for others' actions</s_inf> |
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A* 2018-06-15 02:33:48 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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I think these notes need to be expanded on because I don't get the difference between sense 1 and 2 here (esp. as they have the same
tags).
I don't see the case for "extreme honorific" for sense 2 in daijs. (which unfortunately make the two senses even more confusingly
similar) |
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-<xref type="see" seq="2567990">られる・4</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2568000">られる・4</xref>
@@ -12 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>verb used as an honorific for others' actions</gloss>
+<s_inf>verb used as an honorific for others' actions</s_inf>
+<gloss>to do</gloss>
@@ -16,0 +18 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2568020">せる・3</xref>
@@ -18 +20,2 @@
-<gloss>auxiliary verb used as an extreme honorific for others' actions</gloss>
+<s_inf>auxiliary verb used as an honorific for others' actions</s_inf>
+<gloss>to do</gloss> |
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A 2010-08-14 01:49:54 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Let it stand. |
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A* 2010-08-11 03:47:06 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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i'm open to any changes |
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A* 2010-08-10 22:07:26 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I wouldn't want it to be a grammar lesson, but should it mention that sense 1 is from サ変動詞 and sense 2 from せる?
Also, couldn't it just have one sense in English, and a not mentioning サ変動詞/せる? |
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A* 2010-08-06 08:54:47 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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koj, daij, meikyo |
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unsure about the PoS of sense 1. would be a standalone verb with respect to する, but an auxiliary with respect to things like 愛する??? |