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紬糸つむぎ糸
つむぎいと
1. [n]
▶ tsumugi silk yarn
▶ (spun) silk noil yarn
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 1956710 紬 1. tsumugi; pongee; traditional rough-surfaced cloth woven from raw silk



History:
8. A 2023-03-27 23:13:18  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
7. A* 2023-03-27 06:58:55  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
6. A 2023-03-27 06:58:36  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
OK, I'll set up that split. I'll approve to limit confusion and reopen it,
  Diff:
@@ -4,3 +3,0 @@
-<k_ele>
-<keb>紡ぎ糸</keb>
-</k_ele>
@@ -17 +13,0 @@
-<stagk>紬糸</stagk>
@@ -19,3 +15,3 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1956710">紬・つむぎ</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1956710">紬・つむぎ</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1956710">紬・つむぎ</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1956710">紬</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1956710">紬</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1956710">紬</xref>
@@ -24,6 +19,0 @@
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<stagk>紡ぎ糸</stagk>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<gloss>spun thread</gloss>
-<gloss>spun yarn (silk, wool, cotton, etc.)</gloss>
5. A* 2023-03-26 05:43:58  Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
https://www.nagomi1ban.com/matue-ai/c3k-08beni-01.html
生糸(SILK FILAMENT)、絹紡糸(SPUN SILK YARN)も貴重ですが、紬糸(SILK NOIL YARN )は日本では手に入れにくい素材になっています。菱型と三角形の帯で面取りし、懐かしい味わいの紬の手まり(紅の花)です。

https://www.yarnitaly.com/listing/1397656003/100-tsumugi-silk-yarn-on-cone-japanese
100% tsumugi silk yarn on cone, japanese silk yarn for knitting, weaving and crochet, per 100g
This famous japanese yarn - 100% tsumugi silk - is very beautiful and soft. This is a real tsumugi silk yarn, NOT the italian bourette/noil silk also wrongly called tsumugi.
It is produced in Japan.

https://hasegawacorporation.com/?category_id=61fb5d52c15c5a748b09abb9
CATEGORY 紬糸 Silk Noil

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsumugi_(cloth)
 It is a tabby weave material woven from yarn produced using silk noil, short-staple silk fibre (as opposed to material produced using longer, filament silk fibres). 
Originally, tsumugi was homemade from domestic or wild-gathered silkworm cocoons that had been broken by hatching[8] or were irregularly formed.[4]

https://thesilkyweave.com/2016/01/10/tsumugi-silk-what-is-that/
Tsumugi silk – what is that?
Posted on January 10, 2016 by Sophie
I have been asked twice recently about tsumugi silk.  Well, the short answer is that tsumugi (紬) is a yarn spun from the silk waste, with nubs and some unevenness.  Not shiny, but has a good grip – excellent choice for a weft if you’re thinking about a baby wrap, a shawl, or a scarf.  And if it is spun firmly, it can be a warp too.  

In other words, the silk noil or bourette silk, known to the Western world, is tsumugi silk.
  Comments:
I think this should be two entries. 紬糸 refers only to a particular kind of silk 糸 used in 紬, and not all silk thread(in particular I've come to learn "silk noir" or "raw silk").  An xref to my now-edited 紬 would make the meaning clear with little effort.  

"tsumugi silk yarn" is a good gloss in the marketplace.  I think in Japanese that 紬糸 is probably a good translation of "silk noir", but in English "tsumugi" should only refer to Japanese products...

For 紡ぎ糸, I just proposed an related entry for the probably-more-practical:
手紡ぎ糸  
hand-spun yarn
  Diff:
@@ -16,0 +17 @@
+<stagk>紬糸</stagk>
@@ -18 +19,5 @@
-<gloss>(spun) silk thread</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1956710">紬・つむぎ</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1956710">紬・つむぎ</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1956710">紬・つむぎ</xref>
+<gloss>tsumugi silk yarn</gloss>
+<gloss>(spun) silk noil yarn</gloss>
@@ -20,0 +26 @@
+<stagk>紡ぎ糸</stagk>
@@ -22,2 +28,2 @@
-<s_inf>usu. 紡ぎ糸</s_inf>
-<gloss>spun thread (wool, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>spun thread</gloss>
+<gloss>spun yarn (silk, wool, cotton, etc.)</gloss>
4. A 2016-12-01 02:25:40  Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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