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泣いても笑っても
ないてもわらっても
1. [exp] [id]
《used when something is drawing near or coming to an end》
▶ whether you like it or not
▶ no matter what one may do
▶ in any event
▶ in any case
▶ [lit] whether you laugh or cry



History:
11. A 2022-09-30 22:44:17  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
I agree.
10. A* 2022-09-28 00:27:49  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
I think it's the sort of thing we'd usually put in a note. "things are coming to an end" could be interpreted as a completion of the phrase. A note seems clearer to me.
  Diff:
@@ -13 +13,2 @@
-<gloss>whether you like it or not (things are coming to an end)</gloss>
+<s_inf>used when something is drawing near or coming to an end</s_inf>
+<gloss>whether you like it or not</gloss>
@@ -16 +17 @@
-<gloss>at all events</gloss>
+<gloss>in any case</gloss>
9. A* 2022-09-27 09:45:39  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
I don't think that should be a note, it's about the meaning of the word, no?
  Diff:
@@ -13,2 +13 @@
-<s_inf>usu. said when the final moments are near</s_inf>
-<gloss>whether you like it or not</gloss>
+<gloss>whether you like it or not (things are coming to an end)</gloss>
8. A 2022-09-27 05:10:54  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Better as a note.
  Diff:
@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+<s_inf>usu. said when the final moments are near</s_inf>
@@ -18 +18,0 @@
-<gloss g_type="expl">phrase usu. used when the final moments are near</gloss>
7. A* 2022-09-26 17:19:48 
  Refs:
kojien: 残りがわずかしかないことにいう。
daijisen: 物事が最後の段階にきていることのたとえ。
  Diff:
@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<gloss g_type="expl">phrase usu. used when the final moments are near</gloss>
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