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A 2022-11-26 01:43:24 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK. Let it be. |
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A* 2022-11-26 00:35:59 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I don't think either x-ref is particularly helpful. As Stephen points out, the "ノート = notebook" connection doesn't need to be explained. We even have "notebook" as a gloss. And we don't typically include an x-ref to an abbreviated form unless it's more common than the full form. I don't think that's the case here. |
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-<xref type="see" seq="1101570">パソコン</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1093450">ノート・4</xref> |
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A* 2022-11-25 20:03:53 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Oops, I neglected to check the history.
I suppose the sense cross-references serve two different purposes: one explains the etymology and the other explains that it may be abbreviated. I didn't think the former would be necessary since "notebook computer" is common in English as well, and probably nobody would think "note" refers to musical notes. But I may just be biased. |
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A* 2022-11-25 19:00:04 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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As Robin pointed out in 2018, the ノート is based on sense 1. Perhaps we should have both.
Not sure the パソコン xref is needed. |
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A* 2022-11-25 18:27:10 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Fixing x-ref |
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-<xref type="see" seq="1093450">ノート・1</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1093450">ノート・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1093450">ノート・4</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1093450">ノート・4</xref> |
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A 2021-07-27 00:58:49 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2021-07-26 23:55:34 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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ノートパソコン 1527653
ノート・パソコン 17826 |
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+<r_ele>
+<reb>ノート・パソコン</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -11,2 +14,2 @@
-<gloss>laptop computer</gloss>
-<gloss>notebook computer</gloss>
+<gloss>laptop (computer)</gloss>
+<gloss>notebook (computer)</gloss> |
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A 2018-06-05 09:30:55 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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A* 2018-06-05 04:43:51 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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GG5,中辞典 : notebook computer, リーダーズ+プラス: laptop.
G n-grams:
ノートパソコン 1527653
ラップトップ 115857
ラップトップコンピュータ 5155
ラップトップパソコン 3453 |
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This seems to be the main Japanese noun for laptops/notebooks, so it's worth making the glosses more meaningful. No real need for the note. |
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-<s_inf>from notebook personal computer</s_inf>
-<gloss>laptop</gloss>
-<gloss>notebook</gloss>
+<gloss>laptop computer</gloss>
+<gloss>notebook computer</gloss> |
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A* 2018-06-02 14:39:06 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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The ノート in ノートパソコン comes from the "book for taking notes" sense (sense 1), not sense 4, which is an abbreviation of ノートパソコン (this entry).
That's why I think the x-ref looks a little odd. |
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-<xref type="see" seq="1093450">ノート・4</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1093450">ノート・1</xref> |
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A* 2018-06-01 22:44:24 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I like both. |
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-<xref type="see" seq="1093450">ノート・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1093450">ノート・4</xref>
+<s_inf>from notebook personal computer</s_inf> |
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A* 2018-06-01 15:51:06 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I think I prefer the etymological note. An x-ref to ノート looks odd to me. |
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-<xref type="see" seq="1093450">ノート・3</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1093450">ノート・1</xref> |
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A 2015-01-13 07:56:44 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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A* 2015-01-12 02:28:47 Marcus Richert
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kind of superfluous, esp with the redirects |
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-<s_inf>from notebook personal computer</s_inf> |
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A 2014-05-17 01:50:56 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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+<xref type="see" seq="1093450">ノート・3</xref> |
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A 2008-02-28 00:00:00
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Entry created |