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A 2022-04-02 00:32:43 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Sorry, I hadn't twigged you proposed dropping 針眼 as well as みず. As it's in all the kokugos I think it's best in its own "arch" entry. |
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A* 2022-04-01 23:14:16 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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The entry is much cleaner and easier to read without it. If the inclusion of an archaic form introduces a lot of restr tags, I think it should be split out into a separate arch entry or dropped entirely (my preferred option). |
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@@ -10,3 +9,0 @@
-<k_ele>
-<keb>針眼</keb>
-</k_ele>
@@ -15,2 +11,0 @@
-<re_restr>針孔</re_restr>
-<re_restr>穴</re_restr>
@@ -26,6 +20,0 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>みず</reb>
-<re_restr>針孔</re_restr>
-<re_restr>針眼</re_restr>
-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
-</r_ele>
@@ -33,2 +21,0 @@
-<stagk>針孔</stagk>
-<stagk>針眼</stagk>
@@ -39,2 +26 @@
-<stagk>針孔</stagk>
-<stagk>穴</stagk>
+<stagr>めど</stagr> |
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A 2022-04-01 06:03:12 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think みず can stay with a tag. It's in the kokugos, and removing it doesn't simplify the glosses. |
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@@ -22,0 +23,4 @@
+<reb>はりめど</reb>
+<re_restr>針孔</re_restr>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
@@ -26,4 +30 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>はりめど</reb>
-<re_restr>針孔</re_restr>
+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf> |
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A* 2022-03-30 23:02:32 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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みず appears to be archaic. I think it should be split out. Most of the restr tags can then be dropped.
しんこう is only in the unabridged edition of nikk. I think we can drop it. |
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-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>しんこう</reb>
-<re_restr>針孔</re_restr>
-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf> |
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A 2022-03-29 10:26:53 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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No objections, it seems. |
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A* 2022-03-21 06:06:39 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Daijs. |
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An attempt to bring in a searchable 穴/めど. |
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@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>穴</keb>
@@ -12,0 +16 @@
+<re_restr>穴</re_restr>
@@ -19,0 +24,2 @@
+<re_restr>針孔</re_restr>
+<re_restr>針眼</re_restr>
@@ -30,0 +37,2 @@
+<stagk>針孔</stagk>
+<stagk>針眼</stagk>
@@ -35,0 +44 @@
+<stagk>穴</stagk> |
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A 2012-09-11 23:19:01 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK |
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@@ -32,1 +32,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1254480">穴・あな・1</xref>
@@ -35,0 +34,7 @@
+<sense>
+<stagk>針孔</stagk>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1254480">穴・あな・1</xref>
+<s_inf>dialectal</s_inf>
+<gloss>hole</gloss>
+</sense> |
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A* 2012-09-11 10:32:31 Marcus
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nikk |
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shouldn't the 2nd meaning, "hole," at least be included here,
even if the kanji 穴 isn't? It's in the daijs entry for 針孔,
plus the other sources I quoted (that say it's dialectal). |
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+<r_ele>
+<reb>しんこう</reb>
+<re_restr>針孔</re_restr>
+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
+</r_ele> |
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A 2012-09-11 07:02:29 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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A* 2012-09-08 07:49:30 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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The dominant words here are "穴/あな/hole", which is VERY common and "針孔/めど/eye of a needle", which is not nearly as common. めど may well be an alternative reading for 穴, but bringing 穴 into this entry and tying to the second, rarer sense is making rather a mess.
Better:
(a) keep 穴 away from here;
(b) add めど to the 穴/あな entry as an "also read ..." on the first sense. I don't want to add it as a full reading as it would have to crossed off 8 of the 9 senses.
That way we don't have a heap of restrictions and possible confusion.
I'll set that up and we can see how it looks. |
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@@ -10,3 +10,0 @@
-<k_ele>
-<keb>穴</keb>
-</k_ele>
@@ -16,1 +13,0 @@
-<re_restr>穴</re_restr>
@@ -24,2 +20,0 @@
-<re_restr>針孔</re_restr>
-<re_restr>針眼</re_restr>
@@ -33,0 +27,2 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1254480">穴・あな・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1254480">穴・あな・1</xref>
@@ -35,5 +31,0 @@
-<sense>
-<stagr>めど</stagr>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<gloss>hole</gloss>
-</sense> |
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A* 2012-09-08 02:04:13 Marcus
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daijs
め‐ど【針孔／穴】
１ 針の、糸を通すあな。はりのみみ。２ 穴。
it's probably in nikk too, but since I can only see the 3
first results, I can't get to that particular entry.
けつ‐めど【尻穴】 is also in nikk
on this blog, the author says めど is dialectal (fukushima)
for hole.
http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/toshikatu0214/26613313.html
in the zokugo dic entry for ケツメド, they say "関東エリアで穴を意
味する『メド』" |
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A* 2012-09-07 19:40:44 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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What is the source for 穴 being read めど? I can't find it anywhere.
I think it best this change be dropped, and at most an "also read めど" note put on 穴/あな, but I'm not at all convinced it's needed. |
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A* 2012-09-05 02:10:46 Marcus
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針孔, 針眼 and はりめど seem like they don't have the 2nd sense.
maybe that should be split out? now that I've made it a bit
messier... |
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@@ -10,0 +10,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>穴</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -13,0 +16,1 @@
+<re_restr>穴</re_restr>
@@ -20,0 +24,2 @@
+<re_restr>針孔</re_restr>
+<re_restr>針眼</re_restr>
@@ -29,0 +35,5 @@
+<sense>
+<stagr>めど</stagr>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>hole</gloss>
+</sense> |
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A 2007-05-06 00:00:00
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Entry created |