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二階から目薬
【 にかいからめぐすり 】
1. [exp,n] [id]
▶ frustratingly difficult task
▶ [lit] (applying) eyedrops from the second floor
2. [exp,n] [id]
▶ roundabout and inefficient way
▶ something totally ineffective



History:
8. A 2022-02-16 05:20:37  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
7. A* 2022-02-15 23:19:27  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Refs: 
daijr: 意のままにならずもどかしいこと。また，回り遠くて効果のおぼつかないこと。
daijs: 二階にいて、階下の人に目薬を差すこと。もどかしいこと、また遠回しすぎて効果がないことのたとえ。
  Comments: 
It's both.
  Diff: 
@@ -14 +14 @@
-<gloss>(attempting a) futile task</gloss>
+<gloss>frustratingly difficult task</gloss>
@@ -15,0 +16,7 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&exp;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&id;</misc>
+<gloss>roundabout and inefficient way</gloss>
+<gloss>something totally ineffective</gloss>
6. A* 2022-02-14 00:50:41  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Refs: 
Koj: 二階にいる人が階下の人に目薬をさすように、思うように届かないこと。効果のおぼつかないこと、迂遠なことのたとえ。「天井から目薬」とも。
GG5: 二階[天井]から目薬 applying eyedrops from the 「second floor [ceiling]; fanning the sun with a peacock's feather.
中辞典: (examp) あなたの提案は二階から目薬で, てんで的はずれだ. Your proposal ┏is completely beside the point [just beats around the bush].
ルミナス: dispel fog with a fan　★英語は「うちわで露を払う」意味で効果のないことをいう.
  Comments: 
I don't think "frustratingly hard" is correct. Maybe this works.
  Diff: 
@@ -14,2 +14,2 @@
-<gloss>frustratingly hard task</gloss>
-<gloss g_type="lit">eye drops from the second floor</gloss>
+<gloss>(attempting a) futile task</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">(applying) eyedrops from the second floor</gloss>
5. A* 2022-02-04 14:18:04 
  Diff: 
@@ -14 +14 @@
-<gloss>something that cannot be done no matter how hard one tries (and is slightly frustrating because of this)</gloss>
+<gloss>frustratingly hard task</gloss>
4. A 2020-05-14 14:13:50  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
the gloss isn't great
  Diff: 
@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<pos>&n;</pos>
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