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希ガス；稀ガス；貴ガス
【きガス】

[n] {chemistry}
▶ noble gas

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 2853806 不活性気体【ふかっせいきたい】 2. noble gas

(希ガス only) [exp] [net-sl,joc]
《pun on 気がする》
▶ I get the feeling that ...
▶ I think that ...

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 1221540 気がする 1. to feel (as if); to have a feeling (that); to have a hunch (that); to get a sense (that)

History:

15.	A 2022-02-23 03:38:28 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
14.	A* 2022-02-23 00:04:28 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas
	Comments:	"inert gas" and "noble gas" aren't necessarily synonymous. Wikipedia describes the former as a historical name for noble gasses.
	Diff:	@@ -17,0 +18 @@ +<field>&chem;</field> @@ -19 +19,0 @@ -<gloss>inert gas</gloss>
13.	A* 2022-02-22 23:59:04 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -24 +24 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="1221540">気がする・きがする・1</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="1221540">気がする・1</xref> @@ -27 +27 @@ -<s_inf>from 気がする</s_inf> +<s_inf>pun on 気がする</s_inf>
12.	A 2022-02-22 23:29:17 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Happy to drop it but it seems 希ガス still reigns in references, and makes up about 99% of WWW hits.
	Diff:	@@ -12 +11,0 @@ -<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
11.	A* 2022-02-22 16:20:08 Phil
	Refs:	https://www.chemistry.or.jp/news/doc/kotogakko-kagakuyogo2015.pdf : 希ガス*（対応する英語 noble gas）【現状】すべての高校教科書が「希ガス」を使い，ごく一部が「貴ガス」を併記している。【提案】海外の高校教科書が例外なく使う noble gas に合わせ，「貴ガス」に変更する。【理由・背景】「希ガス」は，発見当時（19 世紀末～20 世紀初頭）の「確認しにくさ」を表す歴史的用語にすぎない。欧米では 1910 年ごろ以降，18 族の化学的性質を明確に表す noble gas を使っている。また，IUPAC 命名法（最新版は日本化学会命名法専門委員会編『化合物命名法：IUPAC 命名法に準拠』，東京化学同人，2011）でも「貴ガス」としている。
	Comments:	The 日本化学会 proposed in 2015 to use「貴ガス」in textbooks, in line with the 2005 recommendation of the IUPAC (International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry) to henceforth use "noble gas" in English. In light of the recommendation, is the [oK] tag on 「貴ガス」 still valid, or should it be used instead for the other 2 forms 「希ガス」、「稀ガス」 ?
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10.	A 2019-12-26 17:41:23 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -26 +26 @@ -<misc>&sl;</misc> +<misc>&net-sl;</misc> @@ -29,2 +29,2 @@ -<gloss>I get the feeling that</gloss> -<gloss>I think that</gloss> +<gloss>I get the feeling that ...</gloss> +<gloss>I think that ...</gloss>
9.	A 2019-11-26 15:52:11 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	yeah. also, given the different etymologies of sense 1 and sense 2 and that we're splitting up identical katakana terms based on english word of origin, i'd say there's also an argument for splitting this into two separate entries. basically the term is ateji for sense 2 but not for sense 1, and we have no way of indicating that if they're merged
8.	A* 2019-11-26 12:17:22 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	For odd expressions like this (where the etymology/origin isn't necessarily obvious), I think there should always be a note. X-refs are used for many things. It's not as explicit as saying "this comes from 気がする".
7.	A* 2019-11-25 23:46:08 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	There's already an xref to 気がする, is the note really needed?
6.	A 2019-11-25 16:54:18 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -27,0 +28 @@ +<s_inf>from 気がする</s_inf>
5.	A 2013-12-25 00:56:44 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	not sure i care for the 2nd sense being in here
4.	A* 2013-12-15 10:20:04 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Adding anonymously proposed "joc" from a forked thread.
	Diff:	@@ -27,0 +27,1 @@ +<misc>&joc;</misc>
3.	A* 2013-12-09 01:41:07 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	For 貴ガス: LSD, Igaku, Kagaku, Eijiro. Eijiro adds "貴ガスは1940、50年まで使用。現在は希ガス。"
	Comments:	Merging 1871230.
	Diff:	@@ -10,0 +10,4 @@ +<k_ele> +<keb>貴ガス</keb> +<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> @@ -16,0 +20,1 @@ +<gloss>inert gas</gloss>
2.	A* 2013-12-07 07:57:31 Paul Upchurch <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	知恵蔵2013 - http://kotobank.jp/word/希ガス http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/希ガス http://netyougo.com/2ch/1265.html
	Diff:	@@ -17,0 +17,8 @@ +<sense> +<stagk>希ガス</stagk> +<pos>&exp;</pos> +<xref type="see" seq="1221540">気がする・きがする</xref> +<misc>&sl;</misc> +<gloss>I get the feeling that</gloss> +<gloss>I think that</gloss> +</sense>
1.	A 2007-01-21 00:00:00
	Comments:	Entry created

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jmdict 2134880 Rejected (id: 1150137)
希ガス；稀ガス
【きガス】

[n]
▶ noble gas

(希ガス only) [exp] [sl,joc]
▶ I get the feeling that
▶ I think that

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 1221540 気がする【きがする】 1. to feel (as if); to have a feeling (that); to have a hunch (that); to get a sense (that)

History:

4.	R 2013-12-15 10:18:47 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Removing the forked edits. I'll add "joc" to the main thread.
3.	A* 2013-12-15 04:31:11
	Diff:	@@ -22,0 +22,1 @@ +<misc>&joc;</misc>
2.	A* 2013-12-07 07:57:31 Paul Upchurch <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	知恵蔵2013 - http://kotobank.jp/word/希ガス http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/希ガス http://netyougo.com/2ch/1265.html
	Diff:	@@ -17,0 +17,8 @@ +<sense> +<stagk>希ガス</stagk> +<pos>&exp;</pos> +<xref type="see" seq="1221540">気がする・きがする</xref> +<misc>&sl;</misc> +<gloss>I get the feeling that</gloss> +<gloss>I think that</gloss> +</sense>
1.	A 2007-01-21 00:00:00
	Comments:	Entry created

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