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A 2015-12-30 04:01:19 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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and in koj |
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i don't trust their okurigana |
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+<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>坐繰</keb>
+<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
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+<stagk>坐繰</stagk> |
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A* 2015-12-24 16:37:33 Scott
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http://kotobank.jp/word/座繰-68835 (世界大百科事典 第２版) |
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+<k_ele>
+<keb>座繰</keb>
+</k_ele>
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+<stagk>座繰</stagk> |
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A 2014-02-21 02:47:51 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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A* 2014-02-21 02:18:31 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotface
FB discussion
リーダーズ+プラス: "spot-face 座ぐりする..." |
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More discussion on translators' FB page. Plenty of WWW examples of 座ぐり being used for both countersinking and spotfacing. Sense could be split. |
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+<pos>&vs;</pos>
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-<gloss>counter sinking (e.g. so screw-heads don't protrude above surface)</gloss>
+<gloss>counter sinking (making conical depression so screw-heads don't protrude above surface)</gloss>
+<gloss>spot facing (machining a flat space for bolt head, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>spotfacing</gloss> |
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A 2014-02-13 08:40:55 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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(show/hide 6 older log entries)
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A* 2014-02-13 05:39:39 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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http://www.kawarakou.com/works/works4jinja/works4-2.html (scalloped shape along the edge of a roof)
http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/lavie550/7688318.html (hollowing in a rifle butt)
http://horatio-hanna.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2010/07/shoe-trees.html (shoe lasts) |
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The bowl didn't check out properly. Quite a few roof examples. |
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-<gloss>hollowing out (e.g. wooden chair seat, bowl, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>hollowing out (e.g. wooden chair seat, scallop pattern on roof, etc.)</gloss> |
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A* 2014-02-13 04:43:57 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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becomes somewhat ugly with the third sense added, but it seems appropriate
does the third sense really apply to bowls? the 座 makes me think that it is specific to the seats of chairs. |
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A* 2014-02-13 03:23:49 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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KOj, Daijr, GG5
http://www.haburikobo.com/knowledge/k0025.htm
http://k-woodcraft.seesaa.net/category/6159860-1.html (1/2 down)
http://www.k-buhinkako.com/tuikakou-08.html (Part 4) |
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Implementing the merge as Rene proposed. The "esp." notes are based on what I am seeing in Google images, where 座ぐり is almost all about counter sinking, and 座刳り is almost all about hollowing out pieces of wood. No dictionary that I can see has this latter meaning. |
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+<k_ele>
+<keb>座繰り</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -11,2 +14 @@
-<keb>座繰り</keb>
-<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>
+<keb>坐繰り</keb>
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+<stagk>座繰り</stagk>
+<stagk>坐繰り</stagk>
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-<gloss>counter sink (e.g. so screw-heads don't protrude above surface)</gloss>
+<gloss>reeling by hand (esp. silk)</gloss>
+<gloss>hand filature</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<s_inf>esp. 座ぐり</s_inf>
+<gloss>counter sinking (e.g. so screw-heads don't protrude above surface)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<s_inf>esp. 座刳り</s_inf>
+<gloss>hollowing out (e.g. wooden chair seat, bowl, etc.)</gloss> |
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A* 2014-02-12 05:31:03 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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daijs ざぐり 【座繰り／×坐繰り】
1) 座って繭から糸をたぐりながら糸枠に巻き取ること。また、その道具。
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3) ボルトや小ねじ類を締める際、すわりを安定させるために、穴の周辺の上面を平らに加工すること。
koj also has both these senses merged:
ボルト・小ねじ類を使用する場合、その頭が平らに締め付けられるように、孔の周囲の上面を円形に平滑に削ること。
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are the senses above the same as the one in daijr for 座刳り?
木ねじ・ボルトなどの頭を材面より沈めるため，部材にへこみをつけること。 |
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there may be some difference in nuance that i'm not catching, but i think these entries should be merged (perhaps with a restriction, since it doesn't appear that 座刳り can apply to 'hand filature') |
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A* 2014-02-11 22:24:11 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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WWW hits confirm 座ぐり is common for this term. Eijiro has "座繰りをした : counter sunk" and there are a few WWW images for 座繰り showing countersinking, but it's in no refs and I suspect it's a typo; hence the "iK". |
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+<keb>座ぐり</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
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+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>座繰り</keb>
+<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2006-09-06 00:00:00
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Entry created |