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でも無い [sK]
【でもない [spec1] 】

1.	[exp,adj-i] [uk] ▶ is not ... either ▶ is (neither ...) nor ... ▶ nor is it ... ▶ is not even ...
2.	[exp,adj-i] [uk] 《after a verb》 ▶ does not ... either ▶ (neither ...) nor ... ▶ does not even ...

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History:

11.	A 2023-09-23 22:25:25 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
10.	A* 2023-09-21 20:14:19 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	"仕事をするでもなく趣味をするでもなくただ横になっているだけの日々" "選ばれるために練習するでもないし、選ばれず悔しがるでもない" "高尚な音楽聞くでもないのにノイキャンとかｗ"
	Comments:	It functions like a negative copula when it follows a noun or adjective but it can also be used with verbs. Some examples above from Twitter.
	Diff:	@@ -16 +16,13 @@ -<gloss>it is not (like that) either</gloss> +<gloss>is not ... either</gloss> +<gloss>is (neither ...) nor ...</gloss> +<gloss>nor is it ...</gloss> +<gloss>is not even ...</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&exp;</pos> +<pos>&adj-i;</pos> +<misc>&uk;</misc> +<s_inf>after a verb</s_inf> +<gloss>does not ... either</gloss> +<gloss>(neither ...) nor ...</gloss> +<gloss>does not even ...</gloss>
9.	A 2023-09-20 09:50:57 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -6 +6 @@ -<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
8.	A 2018-12-14 16:27:55 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I guess so.
7.	A* 2018-12-06 10:07:13 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Tidier?
	Diff:	@@ -16,2 +16 @@ -<gloss>it is not (like that)</gloss> -<gloss g_type="expl">used to explicitly deny one thing while also implicitly denying other things</gloss> +<gloss>it is not (like that) either</gloss>
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6.	A 2014-09-22 12:24:32 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I don't think it is/can be.
	Diff:	@@ -17 +17 @@ -<gloss g_type="expl">copula used to explicitly deny one thing while also implicitly denying other things</gloss> +<gloss g_type="expl">used to explicitly deny one thing while also implicitly denying other things</gloss>
5.	A 2014-09-20 05:05:21 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	still not sure this is a copula. can an "exp,adj-i" be a copula?
4.	A* 2014-09-18 12:20:03 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	N-grams: でもない 13309623 でも無い 458957
	Diff:	@@ -3,0 +4,4 @@ +<k_ele> +<keb>でも無い</keb> +<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri> +</k_ele> @@ -10,0 +15 @@ +<misc>&uk;</misc>
3.	A* 2014-09-18 06:11:48 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	yes, the note seems unnecessary to me. is this actually a 'copula'?
	Diff:	@@ -11 +10,0 @@ -<s_inf>で (connective form of だ) + も + ない</s_inf>
2.	A* 2014-09-18 01:22:29 Marcus Richert
	Refs:	daijs
	Comments:	last sense seems to be arch... removing it rather improving on it (because it seems to be somewhat wrong: daijs …らしくない。…に似合わない。 ). _ 1st and 2nd sense to be the same? _ the note is really messy. couldn't the same thing be accomplished with xrefs to でない or ではない and も？ _ the other "denying" can of course be explicit as well, " ああでもない、こうでもない"
	Diff:	@@ -9,0 +10 @@ +<pos>&adj-i;</pos> @@ -11,10 +12,2 @@ -<gloss>neither... nor... (with the implication that there are other "nor..." items)</gloss> -</sense> -<sense> -<pos>&exp;</pos> -<gloss>denying explicitly one thing and also denying implicitly other things as well</gloss> -</sense> -<sense> -<pos>&exp;</pos> -<gloss>not like (you)</gloss> -<gloss>not (your) usual self</gloss> +<gloss>it is not (like that)</gloss> +<gloss g_type="expl">copula used to explicitly deny one thing while also implicitly denying other things</gloss>
1.	A 2006-09-06 00:00:00
	Comments:	Entry created

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