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だい [spec1]
1. [prt] [fam]
《marks wh-question (what, where, who)》
▶ is it?
▶ isn't it?
Cross references:
  ⇐ see: 2428180 い 1. strengthens a question, assertion, etc.
  ⇐ see: 2837545 じゃい 1. is it?; isn't it?
2. [prt] [chn]
《strengthens one's judgment or conclusion》
▶ be
▶ is



History:
3. A 2018-05-22 23:20:10  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
2. A* 2018-05-22 13:47:12  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
daijr
"〔断定の助動詞「だ」に終助詞「い」の付いたもの〕"
so "be; is" should be adequate for the second sense should be adequate
  Diff:
@@ -11 +11,3 @@
-<gloss>marks wh-question (what, where, who)</gloss>
+<s_inf>marks wh-question (what, where, who)</s_inf>
+<gloss>is it?</gloss>
+<gloss>isn't it?</gloss>
@@ -16 +18,3 @@
-<gloss>strengthens one's judgment or conclusion</gloss>
+<s_inf>strengthens one's judgment or conclusion</s_inf>
+<gloss>be</gloss>
+<gloss>is</gloss>
1. A 2006-09-06 00:00:00 
  Comments:
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jmdict 2097680 Rejected (id: 1104109)

だい [spec1]
1. [prt] [fam]
▶ marks wh-question (what, where, who)
2. [prt] [chn]
▶ emphasizes one's belief in one's own judgment or conclusion as being express to another person

History:
3. R 2012-07-02 00:11:35  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Note the "chn" on this sense - "children's language". You've heard kids saying things like "xxxxxx, yes" when they want confirmation? That's all this is showing. I think you've over-analyzed it, and the revised gloss gets away from what it really is.
2. A* 2012-06-30 17:32:30  Francis
  Comments:
I am not sure how one can "strengthen" one's judgment by the use of an additional sound in the communication. In my way of thinking, the communicator simply uses the additional sound to emphasize his or her belief in the value of the judgment being expressed. The actual judgment being expressed does not become better or worse in quality depending upon the additional sound being added [i.e., "だい"] or  not added.

My change is a little wordy, but if you agree with the point then I am sure a simplification will jump to your mind. [Perhaps I should add "だい" to the last comment to emphasize the point that I really believe that you will find a simpler way of stating what I have stated. Perhaps you will state that the addition of "だい" cetainly does not add strength to my judgement; it is simply an obvious conclusion.]
  Diff:
@@ -16,1 +16,1 @@
-<gloss>strengthens one's judgment or conclusion</gloss>
+<gloss>emphasizes one's belief in one's own judgment or conclusion as being express to another person</gloss>
1. A 2006-09-06 00:00:00 
  Comments:
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