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[exp,v1]
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▶ to shut one's eyes to (one's own faults, etc.) ▶ to pretend not to see ▶ to pay no attention to ▶ to forget ▶ to fail to notice ▶ [lit] to put on a shelf
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10. | A 2023-09-05 21:17:37 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Diff: | @@ -15,0 +16 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="2858678">自分のことは棚に上げる</xref> |
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9. | A 2023-08-28 23:18:35 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | gg5, prog, daij, meikyo |
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Comments: | I don't think the literal meaning needs to be a separate sense. |
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Diff: | @@ -17,4 +17,6 @@ -<gloss>to put to one side</gloss> -<gloss>to shelve</gloss> -<gloss>to ignore</gloss> -<gloss g_type="lit">to put something on a shelf</gloss> +<gloss>to shut one's eyes to (one's own faults, etc.)</gloss> +<gloss>to pretend not to see</gloss> +<gloss>to pay no attention to</gloss> +<gloss>to forget</gloss> +<gloss>to fail to notice</gloss> +<gloss g_type="lit">to put on a shelf</gloss> |
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8. | A* 2023-08-28 05:54:50 | |
Diff: | @@ -16,5 +15,0 @@ -<gloss g_type="lit">to put something on a shelf</gloss> -</sense> -<sense> -<pos>&exp;</pos> -<pos>&v1;</pos> @@ -24,0 +20 @@ +<gloss g_type="lit">to put something on a shelf</gloss> |
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7. | A* 2023-08-26 01:28:38 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | Eijiro: 荷物を棚に上げる : put one's baggage in the overhead bin 本を棚に上げる : put a book on a shelf●put the book up on the shelf Koj, Daijs. Reverso |
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Comments: | See the proposed edit by Brian and Marcus' comments on the rejected thread of this. I think we should mention the literal use too. I think these glosses are closer to the kokugo versions. If this revision is approved the xref in the proposed 自分の事は棚に上げる needs to be updated. |
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Diff: | @@ -15,0 +16,5 @@ +<gloss g_type="lit">to put something on a shelf</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&exp;</pos> +<pos>&v1;</pos> @@ -17,2 +22,3 @@ -<gloss>to be blind to one's shortcomings</gloss> -<gloss>to play innocent</gloss> +<gloss>to put to one side</gloss> +<gloss>to shelve</gloss> +<gloss>to ignore</gloss> |
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6. | A 2020-04-14 21:00:06 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
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[exp,v1,vt]
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《esp. 自分の事は/を~》 ▶ to act as if (something inconvenient) is not an issue
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8. | R 2023-08-25 23:00:18 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I don't think this is an improvement to this entry - I think it's based on a misunderstanding of how the expression is actually used - and I think spreading out the arguments for changing these closely related entries over both of them makes things very confusing. |
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7. | A* 2023-08-25 19:55:50 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | see comments at new xref. daijs: 知らん顔をして問題にしない。不都合なことには触れずにおく。「自分のことは―・げて人の悪口ばかり言う」 I actually wanted to give: to act as if (something inconvenient to one's argument) is not an issue But that's quite the parenthetical. Not sure what the best gloss might be(or what is technically the most correct). Whatever you might pick, I just don't want to encourage the use of this verb in a generic way, when it is not at all generic. (ie. it doesn't mean "to ignore (something)".). 彼女を棚に上げ 0 宿題を棚に上げ 0 ニュースを棚に上げた 0 I tried 責任, and got some hits, but they were remarkable structures using "みずからによる": 責任を棚に上げた 103 みずからによる責任を棚に上げたような印象を残した 自分たちの責任を棚に上げた悪態であるが etc. If you do a book search for 棚に上げる, you'll find a preponderance of 自分の事, followed by distantly by some variants like 自分の問題: 自分の事を棚 6673 97.6% 自分の欠点を棚 108 1.6% 自分の問題を棚 57 0.8% You can find references to specific points of argument, as in "well, then I'll just ignore XXX event if you're going to ignore YYY event". |
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Diff: | @@ -15,0 +16,2 @@ +<pos>&vt;</pos> +<xref type="see" seq="2858678">自分の事は棚に上げる</xref> @@ -17,2 +19,2 @@ -<gloss>to be blind to one's shortcomings</gloss> -<gloss>to play innocent</gloss> +<s_inf>esp. 自分の事は/を~</s_inf> +<gloss>to act as if (something inconvenient) is not an issue</gloss> |
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6. | A 2020-04-14 21:00:06 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
5. | A* 2020-04-14 18:01:14 | |
Diff: | @@ -5,0 +6,3 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>棚にあげる</keb> |
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4. | A 2017-12-02 06:33:41 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...> | |
Diff: | @@ -12,0 +13 @@ +<misc>&id;</misc> |
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