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元も子もない；元も子も無い；本も子もない [sK] ；本も子も無い [sK]
【もともこもない】

[exp,adj-i] [id]
▶ losing everything
▶ suffering a total loss
▶ coming to nothing
▶ [lit] having lost the interest and the principal

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 1307770 子【こ】 6. interest

Conjugations

History:

11.	A 2022-08-16 01:07:08 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I agree.
10.	A* 2022-08-16 01:01:34 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I felt it was a bit awkward and didn't add much but I'm not strongly opposed to its inclusion.
	Diff:	@@ -27,0 +28 @@ +<gloss g_type="lit">having lost the interest and the principal</gloss>
9.	A* 2022-08-15 20:18:10 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	元 and 子 both have a variety of different meanings, so I think this expression is awfully opaque without the literal gloss.
8.	A* 2022-08-15 16:59:35 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5, prog
	Comments:	I don't think the lit gloss is needed.
	Diff:	@@ -22,0 +23,2 @@ +<pos>&adj-i;</pos> +<misc>&id;</misc> @@ -23,0 +26 @@ +<gloss>suffering a total loss</gloss> @@ -25 +27,0 @@ -<gloss>having lost the interest and the principal</gloss>
7.	A 2022-08-14 07:17:53 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Adding sK/sk forms.
	Diff:	@@ -12 +12 @@ -<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> @@ -16 +16 @@ -<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
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6.	A 2022-07-06 12:06:22 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Yes, the 本も versions can be hidden.
5.	A* 2022-07-06 04:29:14 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	本 seems irregular here. I don't see it in any of my refs Google N-gram Corpus Counts \| 元も子もない　 \| 66,407 \| 87.9% \| \| 本も子もない　 \| 265 \| 0.4% \| \| 元も子も無い　 \| 3,837 \| 5.1% \| \| 本も子も無い　 \| 22 \| 0.0% \| \| もともこもない \| 5,038 \| 6.7% \| \| 原も子もない　 \| 0 \| 0.0% \| \| 基も子もない　 \| 48 \| 0.0% \| \| 原も子も無い　 \| 0 \| 0.0% \| \| 基も子も無い　 \| 0 \| 0.0% \|
	Comments:	HiddenForm 本も子もない[iK]；本も子も無い[iK]
	Diff:	@@ -8,3 +7,0 @@ -<keb>本も子もない</keb> -</k_ele> -<k_ele> @@ -13,0 +11,4 @@ +<keb>本も子もない</keb> +<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> @@ -14,0 +16 @@ +<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>
4.	A* 2022-07-06 04:20:11 Marv <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	「ダメだよ、あせっちゃ。怪我したら元も子も無いだろう」
	Diff:	@@ -8,0 +9,6 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>元も子も無い</keb> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>本も子も無い</keb>
3.	A 2012-06-28 04:30:02 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -16,1 +16,1 @@ -<gloss>come to nothing</gloss> +<gloss>coming to nothing</gloss>
2.	A* 2012-06-25 15:05:52 Nils Roland Barth <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	GG5 (gloss) koj (kanji)
	Comments:	* Alt gloss * Alt spelling (read in article as 元も子もない)
	Diff:	@@ -6,0 +6,3 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>本も子もない</keb> @@ -13,0 +16,1 @@ +<gloss>come to nothing</gloss>
1.	A 2006-03-07 00:00:00
	Comments:	Entry created

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