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真偽のほど真偽の程
しんぎのほど
1. [exp,n]
▶ extent to which (something) is true or false
▶ whether or not (something) is true



History:
6. A 2020-02-20 04:56:59  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
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5. A* 2020-02-19 23:17:13  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
Wisdom: "彼の証言の真偽のほどは不明である It is uncertain whether his testimony is true or not."
  Comments:
OK, I can see the case for keeping it. I agree that "whether it is true or not" is ambiguous (although not wrong). I think this is clearer.
  Diff:
@@ -15 +15,3 @@
-<gloss>whether it is true or not</gloss>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>extent to which (something) is true or false</gloss>
+<gloss>whether or not (something) is true</gloss>
4. D* 2020-02-19 20:14:04  Alan Cheng <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
jitsuyo
  Comments:
I think set phrases like this are useful 
to have. I agree with Rene though that our 
gloss (at least alone) is not great--it's 
ambiguous. When I first read it, I thought 
it meant "regardless of whether it's true 
or not".
3. D* 2020-02-18 18:53:20  Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
it seems to be a bit of a set phrase, but i wonder if this is true of all X+NOT_Xのほど

if it's kept, it doesn't mean "whether it's true or not", it means "the extent to which [something is] true or false".  because the translation is not particularly idiomatic and obvious/literal, i'd be inclined to delete it
2. D* 2020-02-18 04:13:10  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
真偽のほど	48692
真偽の程	26620
  Comments:
On the other hand, it's been there for nearly 20 years, it's reasonably common, it's in 2 Tanaka sentences, several GG5 examples, Eijiro, Readers+, etc. While we might not add it now, I don't really think it needs to be removed.
Since Robin and I tend to be on contrasting sides of this sort of discussion I'd be interested in what others think too.
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