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jmdict 1879770 Deleted (id: 2224458)
雑然とした
ざつぜんとした
1. [adj-f]
▶ cluttered (e.g. desk)
▶ jumbled (e.g. thoughts)
▶ messy (e.g. room)
▶ untidy
▶ disorderly
▶ chaotic (e.g. lifestyle, atmosphere)
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 1299450 雑然【ざつぜん】 1. untidy (room, pile, etc.); messy; cluttered; disorderly; jumbled (e.g. thoughts); chaotic (lifestyle, atmosphere, etc.)



History:
3. D 2023-03-12 09:53:48  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Yes, I think it's not necessary.
2. D* 2023-03-11 15:41:46  Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
There are only 16 entries in all of jmdictdb that end with とした(and half of those are coincidental, and not とする forms at all).  A number of others should probably also be dropped in deference to an [adv-to] parent entry. I don't think there is anything particularly special about this entry statistically.

Otherwise there are a mountain of とした forms that could be added.

とした search:
http://www.edrdg.org/jmdictdb/cgi-bin/srchres.py?s1=1&y1=4&t1=とした&src=1&search=Search&svc=jmdict
1. A* 2023-03-11 15:36:43  Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
https://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=雑然とした
chaotic, cluttered, some others...

https://www.waeijisho.net/i/word.html?id=41956
jumbled-up

https://study-z.net/100160243/3

「His desk is always messy.」
(彼のデスクはいつも雑然としている。)
「This downtown area has a cluttered atmosphere. 」
(この繁華街の一角は雑然とした雰囲気がある。)
  Comments:
Does not apply to people (it would seem).  If you search 雑然とした男, you find 雑然とした男の部屋.

Figured out "chaotic" from context, but later found that dictionaries back it up. 雑然とした雰囲気 is a common collocation.

Note: 雑然 is marked [adv-to], that means it literally subsumes this entire entry. This can ban be deleted.

Is this how "promiscuous" became a gloss? 

Wiktionary英語版での「promiscuous」の意味
promiscuous
From Latin prōmiscuus (“mixed, not separated”), from prō (“forth”) + misceō (“mix”).
  Diff:
@@ -11,0 +12,5 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1299450">雑然・ざつぜん</xref>
+<gloss>cluttered (e.g. desk)</gloss>
+<gloss>jumbled (e.g. thoughts)</gloss>
+<gloss>messy (e.g. room)</gloss>
+<gloss>untidy</gloss>
@@ -13 +18 @@
-<gloss>promiscuous</gloss>
+<gloss>chaotic (e.g. lifestyle, atmosphere)</gloss>

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