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[vs-i,vi]
▶ to travel ▶ to take a trip ▶ to make a journey |
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| 7. | A 2022-08-01 20:32:04 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
| Refs: | gg5 |
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| Diff: | @@ -11,0 +12 @@ +<pos>&vi;</pos> @@ -13,0 +15 @@ +<gloss>to make a journey</gloss> |
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| 6. | A 2021-08-20 05:25:46 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
| Refs: | ttps://www.edrdg.org/wwwjdic/wwwverbinf.html#suru_tag (4th paragraph) |
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| Diff: | @@ -11 +11 @@ -<pos>&vs-s;</pos> +<pos>&vs-i;</pos> |
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| 5. | A 2018-08-08 05:13:42 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
| Comments: | This discussion is best conducted elsewhere. Many of the "vs-c" verbs are also tagged "v5s" and get handled that way. The "vs-s" verbs need further work. |
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| 4. | A* 2018-07-31 12:59:50 Johan Råde <...address hidden...> | |
| Refs: | 愛する 7319318 愛す 886979 愛さない 38302 愛しない 2364 |
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| Comments: | Considering that 愛する is 10 times as common as 愛す
and 愛さない is 10 times as common as 愛しない,
it seems a bit awkward to say that 愛しない is the negative form of 愛する
and 愛さない is the negative form of 愛す.
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Here is my proposed solution.
Create a single conjugation table for [vs-s] and [vs-c].
Something like this:
plain: 愛する, 愛す
polite: 愛します
negative: 愛さない, 愛しない
neg. polite: 愛しません
past: 愛した
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Link both [vs-s] and [vs-c] verbs to this table.
This is the approach adopted in jwiki(サ行変格活用) |
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| 3. | A* 2018-07-13 23:00:43 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...> | |
| Comments: | ugh. wwwjdic's conjugation table for this word does show it as 旅さない. it shouldn't |
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[vs-s]
▶ to travel ▶ to take a trip |
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| 4. | R 2018-07-27 03:12:37 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...> | |
| Comments: | yes. this branch is forked, but i noted this on the other branch. it will need to be fixed. vs-s should not have さない negatives |
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| 3. | A* 2018-07-14 11:36:08 Johan Råde <...address hidden...> | |
| Refs: | http://www.edrdg.org/jmdictdb/cgi-bin/conj.py?e=1984267&svc=jmdict&sid=& |
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| Comments: | the verb conjugator has 旅さない something is wrong |
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| 2. | A 2018-07-13 22:56:10 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...> | |
| Refs: | daijirin has it |
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| Comments: | vs-s don't conjugate as ~さない. they conjugate as a regular する verb. the reason 愛する *appears* to conjugate as 愛さない is because of the verb 愛す, which is conjugating as v5s. many/most vs-s verbs (~する) have v5s (す) counterparts AFAICT, this entry is okay |
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| 1. | D* 2018-07-13 20:33:07 Johan Råde <...address hidden...> | |
| Refs: | not in gg5, koj, daijs G n-grams: 旅しない 1240 旅さない No matches |
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| Comments: | ngrams show that it conjugates as a [vs], not [vs-s] so it is already covered by the 旅 entry |
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