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jmdict 1845200 Active (id: 2277882)
鬨の声ときの声
ときのこえ
1. [exp,n]
▶ battle cry
▶ war cry
Cross references:
  ⇐ see: 2602070 鬨【とき】 1. battle cry; war cry



History:
4. A 2023-09-24 19:48:42  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
3. A* 2023-09-24 10:52:41  Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Removing suggested xref. Comment also at 鬨. I think if you were looking for "battle cry" you should probably stick with this.  I don't *think* that the xref is really a "more common substitute", which was my initial motivation.
  Diff:
@@ -16,3 +15,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1542530">雄叫び</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1542530">雄叫び</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1542530">雄叫び</xref>
2. A* 2023-09-24 06:09:11  Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
sankoku: 『戦争の時兵士の気持ちを励ますために』大勢で同時に上げる叫び声。ときの声
  Comments:
Reorder glosses to match 鬨。

There is definitely a nuance difference between 鬨の声 and 雄叫び.  The latter seems applicable to a single person (or a group), while this term seems to me a team effort. (soldiers on a battlefield, a whole office full of workers).  Not [hist], though image search does give battlefield imagery which makes it look more dated.
  Diff:
@@ -15,0 +16,2 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1542530">雄叫び</xref>
+<gloss>battle cry</gloss>
@@ -17 +18,0 @@
-<gloss>battle cry</gloss>
1. A 2019-09-08 21:08:47  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Diff:
@@ -13,0 +14 @@
+<pos>&exp;</pos>

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