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A 2020-10-21 11:31:35 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2020-10-21 10:45:49
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e.g.
ノミ行為 455233
呑み行為 288 |
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A* 2020-10-21 10:45:13 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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I think ノミ屋 is the most common for this (came it across written like that in an article). 呑み屋 leads in the ngrams, but google shows
those are mostly for 飲み屋 |
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@@ -4,0 +5,3 @@
+<keb>ノミ屋</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -7,3 +10,4 @@
-<k_ele>
-<keb>ノミ屋</keb>
-</k_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ノミや</reb>
+<re_restr>ノミ屋</re_restr>
+</r_ele>
@@ -13,4 +16,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ノミや</reb>
-<re_restr>ノミ屋</re_restr> |
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A 2012-10-14 23:22:19 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK, reviving this one. |
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D 2012-10-11 06:42:58 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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D* 2012-10-11 00:11:06 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Following Rene's suggestion of merging 呑み屋 and 飲み屋 with restrictions, as per nikkoku. |
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A* 2012-10-10 05:05:42 Marcus
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ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ノミ屋 |
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@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>ノミ屋</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -9,0 +12,5 @@
+<re_restr>呑み屋</re_restr>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ノミや</reb>
+<re_restr>ノミ屋</re_restr> |
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A 2012-10-10 04:42:56 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Koj, Daijr, GG5, etc. |
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I agree. I have added "呑み屋[iK]" as suggested.
Many of the Google images are actually matching 立ち呑み屋, which is a recognized variant of 立ち飲み屋. |
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-<xref type="see" seq="1600440">飲み屋・のみや</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1600440">飲み屋・のみや</xref>
-<gloss>bar</gloss>
-<gloss>pub</gloss>
-<gloss>tavern</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -25,0 +17,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1713740">ノミ行為・ノミこうい</xref> |
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A* 2012-10-10 01:46:30 Marcus
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daij, eij, kenkyusha show no overlap between 呑み屋 and 飲み屋
- the former does not mean "bar" while the latter does.
Googling 呑み屋, though, it becomes apparent that it is
actually used to refer to bars -- lots of izakaya's etc.
seem to use it in their names. Google images etc. imply this
might actually be the most common usage.
I suggest adding 呑み屋 as an [iK] to the 飲み屋 entry rather
than including the bar sense here. |
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@@ -25,0 +25,1 @@
+<gloss>bucket shop</gloss> |
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A* 2012-10-10 01:26:01 huixing
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http://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/呑み屋 |
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in Japanese parlance tavern sense should come first whereas bookmaker; bookie sense should write as ノミ屋 also refer to ノミ行為． |
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+<xref type="see" seq="1600440">飲み屋・のみや</xref>
+<gloss>bar</gloss>
+<gloss>pub</gloss>
+<gloss>tavern</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos> |