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A 2020-01-29 02:56:40 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I'd prefer the glosses the other way round, but it's not a big issue. |
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A* 2020-01-28 11:21:06 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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OK, I don't mind dropping "Chinese".
My only problem with leading with "kanji dictionary" is that it's too broad.
I agree that GG5 has the best explanatory gloss. |
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+<gloss>dictionary with Japanese definitions of kanji and kanji compounds</gloss>
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-<gloss>Japanese dictionary of kanji and kanji compounds</gloss> |
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A 2020-01-28 10:59:33 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I agree with Rene. We don't need to explain what a kanji is in this entry. |
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-<gloss>dictionary of Chinese characters and kanji compounds defined in Japanese</gloss>
-<gloss>Chinese-Japanese character dictionary</gloss>
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+<gloss>Japanese dictionary of kanji and kanji compounds</gloss> |
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A* 2020-01-28 01:47:06 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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I don't think calling them "Chinese characters" is helpful. AFAIK, we don't shy away from calling them "kanji" anywhere else in the dictionary. In particular, I can't see any reason to mix and match terms with a gloss like "Chinese characters and kanji compounds".
I think "Chinese-Japanese character dictionary" is likewise unhelpful. Any time you hyphenate a dictionary, e.g., "French-English dictionary", people expect that the dictionary contains glosses from one language to the other.
If an explanation is desired, I can't see how we can improve on GG5's:
漢和辞典 a (Japanese) kanji [character] dictionary; a dictionary providing Japanese definitions of kanji and kanji compounds.
Perhaps:
* kanji dictionary; Japanese dictionary of kanji and kanji compounds. |
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A* 2020-01-27 17:33:39 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I have no problem with "kanji dictionary" as a gloss but I think the best option is to explain what it is. There shouldn't be any confusion this way. |
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+<gloss>dictionary of Chinese characters and kanji compounds defined in Japanese</gloss>
+<gloss>Chinese-Japanese character dictionary</gloss> |
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A* 2020-01-27 16:27:24 dine <...address hidden...>
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"Chinese Character-Japanese dictionary" may be better as it specifies the target
language as Japanese. Kanji dictionaries may also include kanji-English
dictionaries (漢英字典), cf http://www.kanji.org/kanji/index.htm |
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A* 2020-01-27 16:16:22 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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i think the existing gloss is also confusing, as is the xref. the clearest solution is just to avoid talking about Chinese |
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-<xref type="see" seq="1893720">中日辞典</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1893720">中日辞典</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1893720">中日辞典</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1893720">中日辞典</xref>
-<gloss>Chinese-Japanese character dictionary</gloss> |
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A 2020-01-27 16:13:47 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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A* 2020-01-27 08:37:39 dine <...address hidden...>
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from the foreword of 三省堂 五十音引き漢和辞典 第二版
https://dictionary.sanseido-publ.co.jp/dict/ssd13951
漢和辞典はこれまで中国古典語を中心に字義・熟語などが記述されてきた。しかし、現代において漢和辞典
に求められているものはそればかりでなく、現代日本語の表現としての漢字・漢語、さらには中国・韓国な
ど漢字文化圏における漢字使用など、現代の文字生活に広く用いることのできる利便性であろう。 |
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A* 2020-01-27 07:38:01 dine <...address hidden...>
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Ah, thanks. I was mainly thinking of the
Morohashi and the various kinds of kanwa
used in kanbun classes of the Japanese
national curriculum. |
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A* 2020-01-27 06:11:38 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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GG5: a (Japanese) 「kanji [character] dictionary; a dictionary providing Japanese definitions of kanji and kanji compounds. |
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I have many kanwas and apart from a couple of specialized ones, they are not based on "Classical Chinese" and do not have "examples [...] drawn from kanbun". They just use typical kango. I don't think that proposed second gloss is either accurate or necessary. |
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-<gloss>dictionary of Classical Chinese with Japanese readings and explanations</gloss>
+<gloss>kanji dictionary</gloss> |
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A* 2020-01-27 02:26:17 dine <...address hidden...>
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daijr, daijs, nikk, and encyclopedias
https://kotobank.jp/word/漢和辞典-471816
https://kotobank.jp/word/漢和辞典・漢和字典-238979 |
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漢和辞典 are organized around kanji but also includes kanji compounds, and examples are usually drawn from kanbun (Classical Chinese as read in Japanese). So the
"character dictionary" part may not be accurate |
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+<xref type="see" seq="1893720">中日辞典</xref>
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+<gloss>dictionary of Classical Chinese with Japanese readings and explanations</gloss> |