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A 2023-11-08 02:41:15 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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GG5: 《make, take, do》 a stone rubbing; a rubbing taken of 「an inscription [an image, etc.] on stone. [⇒たくほん]
Daijr: 石碑などの文字を紙に摺り写したもの。拓本。 (Daijisen is similar) |
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All the refs mention stone - I think we need to also. |
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-<gloss>rubbing</gloss>
+<gloss>rubbing from stone (image, inscription, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>stone rubbing</gloss> |
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A* 2023-11-07 18:37:26 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
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石刷り 528 0.9%
拓本 61474 99.0%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubbing_(art)
A rubbing (frottage) is a reproduction of the texture of a surface created by placing a piece of paper or similar material over the subject and then rubbing the paper with something to deposit marks, most commonly charcoal or pencil but also various forms of blotted and rolled ink, chalk, wax, and many other substances.[1]
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/拓本
Pictures, treated as synonyms:
拓本、石刷りとはなんぞや？
https://blog.goo.ne.jp/crdspr/e/2a450db1efbd8e71a7857f9c839d977b |
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Maybe [rare], certainly by comparison, but perfectly googlable. Still, maybe not readily comprehensible by an average Japanese person.
Reverso for xref is "rubbing" or "rubbed copy". This term is not on reverso.
Found this the other way around from 拓本, which lists this as a synonym/related at the end.
The sankoku defn. of this term, in turn, is just 拓本.
I don't think "print from stone" is a gloss. Experiences differ, but I'm sure we did this a bunch of times in elementary school, I don't think the concept should be overly foreign. Maybe an [expl] since "rubbing" is so ambiguous out of context. Thought about [art] to disambiguate (as wikipedia does), but this seems to exist historically as a more practical activity. |
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-<gloss>print from stone</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1415840">拓本</xref> |
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A 2022-08-07 22:01:47 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2022-08-07 16:43:12 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬─────┬───────╮
│ 石刷り │ 528 │ 58.9% │ 🡠 adding (meikyo)
│ 石摺り │ 244 │ 27.2% │
│ 石搨り │ 0 │ 0.0% │ 🡠 adding (daijs)
│ 石搨 │ 0 │ 0.0% │ 🡠 (daijr)
│ いしずり │ 125 │ 13.9% │
╰─ーーーー─┴─────┴───────╯ |
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+<keb>石刷り</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
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+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>石搨り</keb>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> |