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A 2022-08-14 11:42:21 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Adding sK/sk forms. |
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@@ -12,3 +11,0 @@
-<keb>引き篭り</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
@@ -17,10 +13,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>引き籠り</keb>
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>引篭もり</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>引篭り</keb>
@@ -34,0 +22,16 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>引き篭り</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>引き籠り</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>引篭もり</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>引篭り</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2022-06-27 02:27:15 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think forms that are in the kokugos should be fully visible, not hidden. |
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A* 2022-06-27 01:59:34 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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For "HiddenForms", see the discussion on github here:
https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/46
Based on your comments about J-J dictionaries on the 引っかく entry,
you may also be interested in my new yomichan dictionary:
https://github.com/FooSoft/yomichan/issues/2183 |
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A* 2022-06-27 01:42:34 Tyler Winn <...address hidden...>
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what is HiddenForm? seems interesting
I think it is important to include forms used in jj dicts, see my comments on 引っかく
http://www.edrdg.org/jmdictdb/cgi-bin/entr.py?svc=jmdict&sid=&q=1169430.1 |
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A* 2022-06-26 22:14:46 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Google N-gram Corpus Counts
| 引きこもり | 838,508 | 45.0% | <- jitsuyou (引きこもる)
| 引き篭もり | 145,283 | 7.8% |
| 引き篭り | 12,618 | 0.7% | <- jitsuyou (引き篭る) ※
| 引き籠もり | 24,550 | 1.3% | <- daijr/s 【引（き）籠もり】 [rK]
| 引き籠り | 4,584 | 0.2% | <- oukoku 【引き籠〔も〕り】 ※ [rK]
| 引篭もり | 12,246 | 0.7% | ※
| 引篭り | 6,158 | 0.3% | ※
| 引籠もり | 922 | 0.0% | <- daijr/s 【引（き）籠もり】 [rK]
| 引籠り | 641 | 0.0% | <- koj 【引籠り】, smk 7e [rK]
| ひきこもり | 759,500 | 40.7% |
| ヒキコモリ | 59,849 | 3.2% |
※ I think we can hide these forms
籠 seems to be [rK] |
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HiddenForm 引き篭り；引き籠り；引篭もり；引篭り
I'm not sure it would be a good idea to hide forms that appear in daijr/s and koj, but this might be open to discussion. |
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@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -18,0 +20 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -27,0 +30 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -30,0 +34 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2021-04-07 05:49:34 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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About 30 years too late to do that as so many systems and apps assume the options are fully
described. You really meant 引(き/)(篭/籠/こ)(も/)り |
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A* 2021-04-07 02:21:50 Tyler Winn <...address hidden...>
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Might be nice if there was some syntax you could use to define multiple forms
in a single statement. eg 引(き/)(篭/籠)(も/)り
can get tedious trying to manually type out each combo to check in ngrams etc |
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A 2018-11-23 21:13:51 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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A* 2018-11-23 03:10:16 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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Diff: |
@@ -45 +45 @@
-<gloss>people who withdraw from society</gloss>
+<gloss>person who has withdrawn from society</gloss> |
| 11. |
A 2016-10-10 08:28:23 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2016-10-10 06:25:55 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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I think the comment is a bit misleading.
(e.g. to the bedroom in the parent's home)
might be better, but we could maybe just skip the comment |
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-<gloss>people who withdraw from society (e.g. retire to the country)</gloss>
+<gloss>people who withdraw from society</gloss> |
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A 2016-10-10 04:48:16 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think so. The dictionaries really only have sense 2, but there are plenty of examples of it being used to refer to the person as well as the syndrome. |
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A* 2016-10-09 21:14:07 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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Should we have two separate senses? |
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A 2016-10-09 20:45:29 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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wiki |
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A* 2016-10-07 09:52:50 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think "hikikomori" has got enough presence in English now to be a gloss. |
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Diff: |
@@ -42,2 +42,3 @@
-<gloss>a shut-in</gloss>
-<gloss>a stay-at-home</gloss>
+<gloss>shut-in</gloss>
+<gloss>stay-at-home</gloss>
+<gloss>hikikomori</gloss> |
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A 2016-07-21 22:34:45 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Yes, better than strict ordering. |
| 4. |
A* 2016-07-21 07:33:05 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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Refs: |
引きこもり 838508
引き篭もり 145283
引き篭り 12618
引き籠もり 24550
引き籠り 4584
引篭もり 12246 <- was missing
引篭り 6158
引籠もり 922
引籠り 641 |
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Entries like this can be very confusing and difficult to read.
I think it is better to strike a compromise between strict frequency ordering and logical ordering
--
Now you can easily see that 引き- is more common than 引-;
-篭- is more common than -籠- (despite the latter being Joyo); and -もり is more common than -り |
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@@ -11,0 +12,3 @@
+<keb>引き篭り</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -15 +18,4 @@
-<keb>引き篭り</keb>
+<keb>引き籠り</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>引篭もり</keb>
@@ -19,3 +24,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>引き籠り</keb> |
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A* 2016-07-21 06:18:05 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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G n-grams:
引きこもり 838508
引き篭もり 145283
引き籠もり 24550
引き篭り 12618
....
ひきこもり 759500
ヒキコモリ 59849 |
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@@ -32,0 +33,4 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ヒキコモリ</reb>
+<re_nokanji/>
+</r_ele> |
| 2. |
A 2013-10-16 05:39:15 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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A* 2013-10-14 10:41:52 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Ngrams, Daijr, GG5, etc. |
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The refs all use varying headwords, but most use 引きこもり in examples. |
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@@ -7,0 +7,6 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>引き篭もり</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>引き籠もり</keb>
@@ -18,1 +24,1 @@
-<keb>引籠り</keb>
+<keb>引籠もり</keb>
@@ -21,1 +27,1 @@
-<keb>引き籠もり</keb>
+<keb>引籠り</keb> |