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A 2022-11-17 10:55:31 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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せろん is in the Ichiman list (along with よろん). GG5, 中辞典, etc. have both, but most JEs point the せろん entry to よろん. |
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+<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri> |
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A* 2022-11-17 10:20:56 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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せろん is by no means a common reading. |
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@@ -16,0 +17,2 @@
+<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
+<re_pri>nf02</re_pri>
@@ -21,3 +22,0 @@
-<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
-<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
-<re_pri>nf02</re_pri> |
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A 2022-11-17 04:33:56 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2022-11-16 22:22:56 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬───────────┬───────╮
│ 世論 │ 1,428,563 │ 99.1% │
│ 輿論 │ 13,500 │ 0.9% │ 🡠 rK (daijr/s, koj, etc.)
│ よろん │ 11,018 │ N/A │
│ せろん │ 2,194 │ N/A │
│ せいろん │ 6,473 │ N/A │
╰─ーーーー─┴───────────┴───────╯ |
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@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2020-04-24 01:23:17 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Agree. |
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-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>與論</keb>
-<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf> |
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A* 2020-04-23 21:29:10 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Py5Wa-4Fm2wC&pg=PT18&lpg=PT18&dq="與論"
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=NCvIhm2DHPIC&pg=PA98&lpg=PA98&dq="與論"
https://jisls.jp/shiryo/dpview.html?id=243&p=0000 |
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I'm proposing that we drop 與論. Most of the results online are from scanned books, where it's clearly an OCR error (see examples above). |
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A 2020-04-23 00:51:55 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2020-04-23 00:33:22 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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daij, koj
世論 1428563
輿論 13500
與論 735 |
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Added reading.
與 is the 旧字体 of 与, which suggests that it's irregular, not old. Given the low n-gram count, I'm not sure we need it. |
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@@ -27,0 +28,4 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>せいろん</reb>
+<re_restr>世論</re_restr>
+</r_ele> |
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A 2017-05-27 23:16:00 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Daijr, GG5, etc. |
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No real support for two senses. |
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-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<gloss>the public</gloss>
-<gloss>public debate</gloss>
+<gloss>popular voice</gloss>
+<gloss>public sentiment</gloss>
+<gloss>consensus</gloss> |
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A* 2017-05-27 09:14:37 Amen Lernsky <...address hidden...>
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eij |
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i'm citing を世論に説明する |
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@@ -31,0 +32,5 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>the public</gloss>
+<gloss>public debate</gloss>
+</sense> |
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A 2010-08-09 09:59:41 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2010-08-09 08:51:18 Paul Blay <...address hidden...>
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スーパー大辞林 |
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Looks OK. I do wonder which is the most common reading for 世論, though. It isn't very clear to me from the refs.
I note only 11 hits for +"与論に訴える", some of which were pointing it out as an error.
+"輿論に訴える" does little better at 18 hits.
+"與論に訴える" - only one hit. |
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A* 2010-08-08 07:00:49 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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sorting headwords to make a little more sense. as best as I can tell, 与論 is a place name. iK at the best |
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@@ -11,0 +11,3 @@
+<keb>輿論</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -13,6 +16,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>与論</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>輿論</keb> |