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故郷 [news1,nf06] ；ふる里 [spec1] ；古里 [ichi1] ；故里 [rK] ；旧里 [rK]
【ふるさと [spec1,ichi1,news1,nf06] ；きゅうり (旧里) 】

[n] [uk]
▶ hometown
▶ birthplace
▶ native place
▶ one's old home

Cross references:
	⇔ see: 2853884 故郷【こきょう】 1. hometown; birthplace; native place; one's old home

[n] [arch]
▶ ruins
▶ historic remains

History:

13.	A 2022-03-15 05:38:04 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Quiet. Closing.
12.	A* 2022-03-04 00:57:58 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Not sure only. I just checked the ichiman source document and it only has 故郷/こきょう and 古里/ふるさと so I'll drop the ichi1 from 故郷 in this entry.
	Diff:	@@ -6 +5,0 @@ -<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
11.	A* 2022-03-03 23:24:29 Frazer Robinson
	Comments:	Meikyo has 古里 first and 故郷 last, shinmeikai has 故郷 first and 古里 second. I’m not sure what would be best here. Are the freq tags still applicable here?
10.	A* 2022-03-03 22:15:52 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	故郷 2158360 ふるさと 3520691 ふる里 145201 古里 103750
	Comments:	Probably the cleanest thing. In fact, GG5 has no kanji in its ふるさと entry. There are 68 sentences; one with ふるさと and 67 with 故郷. My guess is that many people seeing 故郷 would think "ふるさと". For ふるさと中辞典 has 【古里･故郷】. Should we have "ふる里,古里,故郷" or leave at is it is now? Certainly Googits for 故郷+ こきょう are far lower than for 故郷+ふるさと.
	Diff:	@@ -34,5 +33,0 @@ -<reb>こきょう</reb> -<re_restr>故郷</re_restr> -<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri> -</r_ele> -<r_ele> @@ -43,0 +39 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="2853884">故郷・こきょう</xref> @@ -51 +46,0 @@ -<stagr>ふるさと</stagr>
9.	A* 2022-03-03 18:26:21 Frazer Robinson
	Refs:	meikyo, shinmeikai, daijs, wisdom,
	Comments:	All of the refs have this split into こきょう and ふるさと Can we please do the same? こきょう is marked as a common word in two of the refs and is usually written in kanji. ふろさと is not marked as common and is usually written in kana.
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8.	A 2021-11-13 23:25:22 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -45 +45 @@ -<gloss>home town</gloss> +<gloss>hometown</gloss>
7.	A* 2021-11-12 11:53:42 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	故郷 2158360 ふる里 145201 古里 103750 旧里 1290 故里 13120
	Diff:	@@ -19 +19,2 @@ -<keb>旧里</keb> +<keb>故里</keb> +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> @@ -22 +23,2 @@ -<keb>故里</keb> +<keb>旧里</keb> +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
6.	A 2013-12-03 16:32:47 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -52,1 +52,1 @@ -<gloss>runs</gloss> +<gloss>ruins</gloss>
5.	A 2013-12-03 05:40:11 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	OK.
	Diff:	@@ -51,2 +51,3 @@ -<gloss>old village</gloss> -<gloss>historic village</gloss> +<misc>&arch;</misc> +<gloss>runs</gloss> +<gloss>historic remains</gloss>
4.	A* 2013-12-03 01:55:27 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	ngrams: ふる里 145201 故郷 2158360 古里 103750 旧里 1290 故里 13120 ふるさと 3520691
	Comments:	I have to question the "old village; historic village" - are they based on the following senses in daij? daijs: 荒れ果てた古い土地。特に、都などがあったが今は衰えている土地。「君により言の繁きを―の明日香(あすか)の川にみそぎしに行く」〈万・六二六〉 daijr: (3)古びて荒れた里。かつて都や離宮のあったところをいう。古跡。古都。「―となりにし奈良の都にも/古今（春下）」 if so, the sense is archaic, and should be something like "ruins"/"historic remains" rather than "old village"
	Diff:	@@ -4,4 +4,0 @@ -<k_ele> -<keb>ふる里</keb> -<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri> -</k_ele> @@ -13,0 +9,4 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>ふる里</keb> +<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri> @@ -42,0 +42,1 @@ +<misc>&uk;</misc> @@ -48,0 +49,1 @@ +<stagr>ふるさと</stagr>
3.	A* 2013-12-02 06:30:46 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Unidic/ngrams. Daijr (sense split)
	Comments:	The JEs don't split this, but Daijrin has 5 senses.
	Diff:	@@ -4,0 +4,4 @@ +<k_ele> +<keb>ふる里</keb> +<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri> +</k_ele> @@ -23,0 +27,3 @@ +<re_pri>news1</re_pri> +<re_pri>nf06</re_pri> +<re_pri>spec1</re_pri> @@ -28,2 +35,0 @@ -<re_pri>news1</re_pri> -<re_pri>nf06</re_pri> @@ -39,2 +44,0 @@ -<gloss>old village</gloss> -<gloss>historic village</gloss> @@ -44,0 +47,5 @@ +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<gloss>old village</gloss> +<gloss>historic village</gloss> +</sense>
2.	A 2010-10-05 06:48:33 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2010-10-05 05:05:35 Scott
	Refs:	だいｊ
	Diff:	@@ -16,0 +16,3 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>故里</keb>

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jmdict 1603050 Rejected (id: 2180471)
故郷news1,nf06]；ふる里 [spec1] ；古里 [ichi1] ；故里 [rK] ；旧里 [rK]
【ふるさと [spec1,ichi1,news1,nf06] ；きゅうり (旧里) 】

[n] [uk]
▶ hometown
▶ birthplace
▶ native place
▶ one's old home

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 2853884 故郷【こきょう】 1. hometown; birthplace; native place; one's old home

[n] [arch]
▶ ruins
▶ historic remains

History:

13.	R 2022-03-04 00:59:23 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Oops
12.	A* 2022-03-04 00:54:23 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Not sure only. I just checked the ichiman source document and it only has 故郷/こきょう and 古里/ふるさと so I'll drop the ichi1 from 故郷 in this entry.
	Diff:	@@ -5,4 +5 @@ -<keb>故郷</keb> -<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri> -<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri> -<ke_pri>nf06</ke_pri> +<keb>故郷news1,nf06]</keb>
11.	A* 2022-03-03 23:24:29 Frazer Robinson
	Comments:	Meikyo has 古里 first and 故郷 last, shinmeikai has 故郷 first and 古里 second. I’m not sure what would be best here. Are the freq tags still applicable here?
10.	A* 2022-03-03 22:15:52 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	故郷 2158360 ふるさと 3520691 ふる里 145201 古里 103750
	Comments:	Probably the cleanest thing. In fact, GG5 has no kanji in its ふるさと entry. There are 68 sentences; one with ふるさと and 67 with 故郷. My guess is that many people seeing 故郷 would think "ふるさと". For ふるさと中辞典 has 【古里･故郷】. Should we have "ふる里,古里,故郷" or leave at is it is now? Certainly Googits for 故郷+ こきょう are far lower than for 故郷+ふるさと.
	Diff:	@@ -34,5 +33,0 @@ -<reb>こきょう</reb> -<re_restr>故郷</re_restr> -<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri> -</r_ele> -<r_ele> @@ -43,0 +39 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="2853884">故郷・こきょう</xref> @@ -51 +46,0 @@ -<stagr>ふるさと</stagr>
9.	A* 2022-03-03 18:26:21 Frazer Robinson
	Refs:	meikyo, shinmeikai, daijs, wisdom,
	Comments:	All of the refs have this split into こきょう and ふるさと Can we please do the same? こきょう is marked as a common word in two of the refs and is usually written in kanji. ふろさと is not marked as common and is usually written in kana.
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8.	A 2021-11-13 23:25:22 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -45 +45 @@ -<gloss>home town</gloss> +<gloss>hometown</gloss>
7.	A* 2021-11-12 11:53:42 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	故郷 2158360 ふる里 145201 古里 103750 旧里 1290 故里 13120
	Diff:	@@ -19 +19,2 @@ -<keb>旧里</keb> +<keb>故里</keb> +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> @@ -22 +23,2 @@ -<keb>故里</keb> +<keb>旧里</keb> +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
6.	A 2013-12-03 16:32:47 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -52,1 +52,1 @@ -<gloss>runs</gloss> +<gloss>ruins</gloss>
5.	A 2013-12-03 05:40:11 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	OK.
	Diff:	@@ -51,2 +51,3 @@ -<gloss>old village</gloss> -<gloss>historic village</gloss> +<misc>&arch;</misc> +<gloss>runs</gloss> +<gloss>historic remains</gloss>
4.	A* 2013-12-03 01:55:27 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	ngrams: ふる里 145201 故郷 2158360 古里 103750 旧里 1290 故里 13120 ふるさと 3520691
	Comments:	I have to question the "old village; historic village" - are they based on the following senses in daij? daijs: 荒れ果てた古い土地。特に、都などがあったが今は衰えている土地。「君により言の繁きを―の明日香(あすか)の川にみそぎしに行く」〈万・六二六〉 daijr: (3)古びて荒れた里。かつて都や離宮のあったところをいう。古跡。古都。「―となりにし奈良の都にも/古今（春下）」 if so, the sense is archaic, and should be something like "ruins"/"historic remains" rather than "old village"
	Diff:	@@ -4,4 +4,0 @@ -<k_ele> -<keb>ふる里</keb> -<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri> -</k_ele> @@ -13,0 +9,4 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>ふる里</keb> +<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri> @@ -42,0 +42,1 @@ +<misc>&uk;</misc> @@ -48,0 +49,1 @@ +<stagr>ふるさと</stagr>
3.	A* 2013-12-02 06:30:46 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Unidic/ngrams. Daijr (sense split)
	Comments:	The JEs don't split this, but Daijrin has 5 senses.
	Diff:	@@ -4,0 +4,4 @@ +<k_ele> +<keb>ふる里</keb> +<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri> +</k_ele> @@ -23,0 +27,3 @@ +<re_pri>news1</re_pri> +<re_pri>nf06</re_pri> +<re_pri>spec1</re_pri> @@ -28,2 +35,0 @@ -<re_pri>news1</re_pri> -<re_pri>nf06</re_pri> @@ -39,2 +44,0 @@ -<gloss>old village</gloss> -<gloss>historic village</gloss> @@ -44,0 +47,5 @@ +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<gloss>old village</gloss> +<gloss>historic village</gloss> +</sense>
2.	A 2010-10-05 06:48:33 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2010-10-05 05:05:35 Scott
	Refs:	だいｊ
	Diff:	@@ -16,0 +16,3 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>故里</keb>

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