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算盤 [ichi1] ；十露盤 [rK] ；珠盤 [rK]
【そろばん [ichi1] ；ソロバン (nokanji) 】

[n] [uk]
▶ abacus
▶ soroban

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 2849750 五玉【ごだま】 1. soroban bead with value five
	⇐ see: 2849751 一玉【いちだま】 1. soroban bead with value one
	⇐ see: 2833618 アバカス 1. abacus

[n] [uk]
▶ calculation (esp. of profit and loss)
▶ reckoning

History:

10.	A 2021-12-02 09:25:46 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	算盤 42231 十露盤 1960 珠盤 21 そろばん 331078 ソロバン 56985
	Diff:	@@ -9,0 +10 @@ +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> @@ -12,0 +14 @@ +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
9.	A 2021-08-20 04:36:44 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
8.	A* 2021-08-20 04:06:18 Opencooper
	Refs:	saito; meikyo
	Comments:	cf. 「読み書きそろばん」.
	Diff:	@@ -26,0 +27,6 @@ +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<misc>&uk;</misc> +<gloss>calculation (esp. of profit and loss)</gloss> +<gloss>reckoning</gloss>
7.	A 2021-07-07 01:21:35 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	http://www.shuzan.jp/gakushu/history/03.html 古代のそろばん ... 土砂そろばん(Dust Abacus) ... 線そろばん（Line Abacus)
	Comments:	I was considering that too but I think "そろばん" can also be used to Western abaci.
6.	A* 2021-07-06 07:10:36 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I think we should. Also I wonder about adding "Japanese" to the abacus gloss; the JEs don't, but they are different things.
	Diff:	@@ -25,0 +26 @@ +<gloss>soroban</gloss>
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5.	A* 2021-07-06 04:03:18 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	jpwiki has one article for そろばん, one for アバカス. jpwiki suggests "soroban;Japanese abacus" are used in English. enwiki also has two articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soroban "The soroban (算盤, そろばん, counting tray) is an abacus developed in Japan. It is derived from the ancient Chinese suanpan, imported to Japan in the 14th century." google image results (in Japanese) for the two are very different. the kokugos however don't have アバカス entries, except daijs, which only says そろばん. アバカス 5499 should we add "soroban" as a second gloss to this entry, maybe?
4.	A 2014-09-10 00:46:45 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Yes, Daijs.
	Comments:	I see from Googling it that 珠盤 also is being used for small jewelled flat objects, which fits the kanji.
3.	A* 2014-09-09 22:56:51 Curtis Naito <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	http://kotobank.jp/word/算盤?dic=daijisen&oid=07654000
	Diff:	@@ -9,0 +10,3 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>珠盤</keb>
2.	A 2013-09-17 21:08:19 Paul Upchurch <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2013-09-17 11:58:54 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Unidic/ngrams
	Comments:	Strongly "uk" (esp. in hiragana.)
	Diff:	@@ -15,0 +15,4 @@ +<r_ele> +<reb>ソロバン</reb> +<re_nokanji/> +</r_ele> @@ -17,0 +21,1 @@ +<misc>&uk;</misc>

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