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A 2021-12-29 04:42:59 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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三嘆 608
三歎 256
mk |
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@@ -16 +16,2 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
+<pos>&vi;</pos>
+<misc>&form;</misc>
@@ -22 +23,2 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
+<pos>&vi;</pos>
+<misc>&form;</misc> |
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A 2012-04-16 03:34:31 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK. |
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A* 2012-04-16 01:43:04 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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implementing suggested split |
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@@ -5,6 +5,0 @@
-<keb>賛嘆</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>讃嘆</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
@@ -12,3 +6,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>讃歎</keb>
@@ -26,2 +17,7 @@
-<gloss>praise</gloss>
-<gloss>admiration</gloss>
+<gloss>deep admiration</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
+<gloss>repeatedly lamenting</gloss> |
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A* 2012-04-16 00:47:45 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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i think there ~may~ be a difference here: the difference between 'admiration' and 'praise' in english (i.e., the former is a private emotion, the latter is a public action; they're not the same). koj, daijs, gg5, meikyo all support this division; daijr does not (it adds ほめる to the definition of 三嘆). also, a legitimate definition was removed from 三嘆.
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so i think there should be two entries:
三嘆;三歎 [さんたん]
[1][n,vs]
deep admiration
[1][n,vs]
repeatedly lamenting
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讃嘆;讃歎;賛嘆 [さんたん]
[1][n,vs]
praise;extolment |
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A 2011-11-30 06:36:27 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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(show/hide 2 older log entries)
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A* 2011-11-22 00:51:40 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Koj, Daijr, GG5, ルミナス |
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Yes, the refs all separate 三嘆/三歎 from the rest, but the meaning seems common to me. Sorting on hits.
The extra gloss of Scott's doesn't seem to fit. |
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@@ -5,1 +5,1 @@
-<keb>三嘆</keb>
+<keb>賛嘆</keb>
@@ -11,0 +11,3 @@
+<keb>三嘆</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -14,1 +17,1 @@
-<keb>賛嘆</keb>
+<keb>三歎</keb>
@@ -22,0 +25,1 @@
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
@@ -24,1 +28,0 @@
-<gloss>praising something after having been deeply moved by it</gloss> |
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A* 2011-11-17 17:33:41 Scott
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koj daij |
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koj and daij don't merge (三嘆 and 讃嘆), but the meaning stated here seems to be shared |
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@@ -5,1 +5,1 @@
-<keb>賛嘆</keb>
+<keb>三嘆</keb>
@@ -8,1 +8,7 @@
-<keb>三嘆</keb>
+<keb>讃嘆</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>讃歎</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>賛嘆</keb>
@@ -18,1 +24,1 @@
-<gloss>repeatedly crying</gloss>
+<gloss>praising something after having been deeply moved by it</gloss> |