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| 1. |
[v5r,vt]
▶ to kill (with a weapon) ▶ to slay |
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| 2. |
[v5r,vt]
▶ to defeat (an opponent) ▶ to beat |
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| 3. |
(打ち取る,打ちとる only)
[v5r,vt]
{baseball}
▶ to get (a batter) out |
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| 7. | A 2022-05-21 01:55:32 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
| Diff: | @@ -46,0 +47 @@ +<stagk>打ちとる</stagk> |
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| 6. | A* 2022-05-21 00:31:39 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
| Refs: | gg5, daij |
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| Comments: | The baseball sense should be restricted to 打ち取る. Using 討 for that sense is a 変換ミス. Sense 4's meaning is broader than what we currently have but as it's archaic, I suggest dropping it. |
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| Diff: | @@ -36,0 +37 @@ +<gloss>to slay</gloss> @@ -41 +42,2 @@ -<gloss>to defeat an opponent</gloss> +<gloss>to defeat (an opponent)</gloss> +<gloss>to beat</gloss> @@ -43,0 +46 @@ +<stagk>打ち取る</stagk> @@ -47,8 +50 @@ -<s_inf>esp. 打ち取る</s_inf> -<gloss>to get someone out</gloss> -</sense> -<sense> -<pos>&v5r;</pos> -<pos>&vt;</pos> -<gloss>to arrest</gloss> -<gloss>to take prisoner</gloss> +<gloss>to get (a batter) out</gloss> |
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| 5. | A 2022-05-19 01:50:04 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
| Refs: | 打ちとる 587 <- in Tanaka sentence 討ちとる 350 GG5 has both 打ち取る and 討ち取る forms and uses 討ち取る for a "slay" example and 打ち取る for a baseball one. 中辞典 splits them into separate entries. |
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| Comments: | I think it's probably OK as it is. |
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| Diff: | @@ -10,0 +11,6 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>打ちとる</keb> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>討ちとる</keb> |
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| 4. | A* 2022-05-13 14:59:59 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...> | |
| Refs: | Google N-gram Corpus Counts
23,766 60.8% 打ち取る
13,722 35.1% 討ち取る
676 1.7% うちとる
498 1.3% 討取る
246 0.6% 撃ち取る <- in nikk, smk, oukoku
193 0.5% 打取る
0 0.0% 撃取る
Meikyo has the following notes regarding kanji usage:
①〔討・打〕 ②〔討〕 ③〔打〕
N-gram counts show that 打 does seem to be used more often in
the baseball sense.
Not sure if there's enough evidence to support adding a similar
note to sense #2.
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
1,789 37.5% 打者を打ち取る
133 2.8% 打者を討ち取る
2,635 55.3% フライに打ち取る
212 4.4% フライに討ち取る |
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| Diff: | @@ -4,6 +3,0 @@ -<k_ele> -<keb>討ち取る</keb> -</k_ele> -<k_ele> -<keb>討取る</keb> -</k_ele> @@ -15,0 +10,3 @@ +<keb>討ち取る</keb> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> @@ -16,0 +14,7 @@ +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>討取る</keb> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>撃ち取る</keb> +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> @@ -36,0 +41 @@ +<s_inf>esp. 打ち取る</s_inf> |
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| 3. | A 2013-01-30 22:54:01 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...> | |
| Diff: | @@ -36,1 +36,2 @@ -<gloss>to get someone out (in baseball)</gloss> +<field>&baseb;</field> +<gloss>to get someone out</gloss> |
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