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A 2023-03-12 03:46:45 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Yes, that split works. |
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A* 2023-03-12 02:25:51 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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gg5, sankoku, smk
妻夫 348,704
妻夫木 325,390 |
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I think sense 2 is always めおと/みょうと. GG5 points to ふうふ because めおと also has the "husband and wife" meaning.
The ok tag is usually used for archaic readings. Sankoku tags both めおと and みょうと as 古風. I think they should be a separate entry.
The vast majority of the 妻夫 counts come from 妻夫木. |
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@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -19 +19,0 @@
-<re_restr>夫婦</re_restr>
@@ -23,7 +22,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>めおと</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>みょうと</reb>
-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
@@ -36,7 +28,0 @@
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n-pref;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="1841840">夫婦茶碗</xref>
-<s_inf>usu. めおと</s_inf>
-<gloss>his and hers</gloss>
-<gloss g_type="expl">pair of objects, one larger (for man), one smaller (for woman)</gloss> |
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A 2023-03-10 05:07:40 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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The JEs have this is a separate sense, but point to ふうふ. |
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Maybe a note is best. |
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@@ -38 +37,0 @@
-<stagr>めおと</stagr>
@@ -40,0 +40 @@
+<s_inf>usu. めおと</s_inf> |
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A* 2023-03-10 00:54:18 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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shinmeikai says みょうと is a 古風な表現 |
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@@ -28,0 +29 @@
+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf> |
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A* 2023-03-10 00:34:52 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬───────────┬───────╮
│ 夫婦 │ 8,818,680 │ 95.4% │
│ 妻夫 │ 348,704 │ 3.8% │ - add (daijr/s, koj, meikyo)
│ 女夫 │ 9,836 │ 0.1% │ - add rK (daijr/s, koj, meikyo)
│ ふうふ │ 18,719 │ 0.2% │
│ めおと │ 45,716 │ 0.5% │
│ みょうと │ 4,449 │ 0.0% │
╰─ーーーー─┴───────────┴───────╯ |
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The kokogos don't seem to mention anything about the second sense or a restriction to めおと. |
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@@ -9,0 +10,7 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>妻夫</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>女夫</keb>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
@@ -11,0 +19 @@
+<re_restr>夫婦</re_restr> |
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A 2018-11-01 00:36:50 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2018-10-31 15:53:16 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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gg5, prog |
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I don't think we need all those glosses. |
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@@ -25 +24,0 @@
-<gloss>spouses</gloss>
@@ -27,2 +26 @@
-<gloss>couple</gloss>
-<gloss>pair</gloss>
+<gloss>man and wife</gloss> |
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A 2012-08-26 12:02:05 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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@@ -35,1 +35,1 @@
-<gloss g_type="expl">pair of objects, one larger (for man), on smaller (for woman)</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">pair of objects, one larger (for man), one smaller (for woman)</gloss> |
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A* 2012-08-26 04:27:05 Nils Roland Barth <...address hidden...>
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GG5 |
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Add “his and hers” sense – seen for teacups, chopsticks, and various other objects, specifically with めおと reading |
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+<sense>
+<stagr>めおと</stagr>
+<pos>&n-pref;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1841840">夫婦茶碗</xref>
+<gloss>his and hers</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">pair of objects, one larger (for man), on smaller (for woman)</gloss>
+</sense> |