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jmdict 1578500 Active (id: 2284814)
古文書 [news1,nf19]
【 こもんじょ [news1,nf19] ； こぶんしょ 】
1. [n]
▶ historical document
▶ archives
▶ old manuscript
▶ paleograph
2. [n]
《paleography term》
▶ pre-Meiji era document addressed to someone in particular
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 1583840 文書【もんじょ】 2. document addressed to someone
  ⇐ see: 2746270 古記録【こきろく】 1. historical document written without a particular addressee (e.g. a diary)



History:
12. A 2023-11-30 22:10:14  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
11. A* 2023-11-30 20:23:22  Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
Since sense 02 of 文書 only applies to もんじょ, I think we should include the reading in the <xref> element.
(My "app" always applies furigana to cross-referenced terms regardless of whether the reading is specified in the <xref> element, but it just naively fetches the first reading from the cross-referenced entry if it isn't specified)
  Diff: 
@@ -26 +26 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1583840">文書・2</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1583840">文書・もんじょ・2</xref>
10. A 2023-11-30 18:43:48  Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
  Refs: 
In addition to meikyo, shinsen kokugo also describes こぶんしょ as an あやまり.
こぶんしょ isn't mentioned in the NHK accent dictionary, sankoku, iwakoku, smk, etc.
  Comments: 
I suspect こぶんしょ is recorded in daijirin, gg5, etc. in order to assist user lookups rather than to endorse it as a valid reading.
9. A 2023-02-17 13:46:32  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Diff: 
@@ -26 +26 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1583840">文書・ぶんしょ・2</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1583840">文書・2</xref>
8. A 2023-02-16 06:24:30  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Refs: 
GG5, Diajirin and Shinjirin all have こぶんしょ without mention of a mistake. Best not to flag it.
  Diff: 
@@ -16 +15,0 @@
-<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
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jmdict 1578500 Rejected (id: 2284783)
古文書 [news1,nf19]
【 こもんじょ [news1,nf19] ； こぶんしょ [ik] 】
1. [n]
▶ historical document
▶ archives
▶ old manuscript
▶ paleograph
2. [n]
《paleography term》
▶ pre-Meiji era document addressed to someone in particular
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 1583840 文書 2. document addressed to someone
  ⇐ see: 2746270 古記録【こきろく】 1. historical document written without a particular addressee (e.g. a diary)

History:
11. R 2023-11-30 15:32:32  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
Not ik if it's in several dictionaries. (alsoin Shinjirin)
10. A* 2023-11-30 12:04:44 
  Refs: 
meikyo, shinkoku
daijr and gg5 redirect to こもんじょ
  Diff: 
@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
9. A 2023-02-17 13:46:32  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Diff: 
@@ -26 +26 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1583840">文書・ぶんしょ・2</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1583840">文書・2</xref>
8. A 2023-02-16 06:24:30  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Refs: 
GG5, Diajirin and Shinjirin all have こぶんしょ without mention of a mistake. Best not to flag it.
  Diff: 
@@ -16 +15,0 @@
-<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
7. A* 2023-02-16 06:04:55  Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
  Refs: 
meikyo: 「こぶんしょ」と読むのは誤り。
  Diff: 
@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
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jmdict 1578500 Rejected (id: 2085984)
古文書 [news1,nf19]
【 こもんじょ [news1,nf19] ； こぶんしょ 】
1. [n]
▶ historical document
▶ archives
▶ old manuscript
▶ paleograph
2. [n]
《paleography jargon》
▶ pre-Meiji era document addressed to someone in particular
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 1583840 文書【ぶんしょ】 2. document addressed to someone

History:
6. R 2020-11-02 11:02:24  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
Duplicate
5. A* 2020-11-02 09:52:47  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Refs: 
daijs: 古い文書
brit: sense 1 is our sense 2. their sense 2 is about ancient Chinese texts.
世界大百科事典: 広義の古文書とは，古い書付のことを広くいい，古記録や古典籍，さらには系図まで含めていう。... 狭義の古文書とは，差出人から受取人に対して，差
出人の意思を表明するために作成されたものと規定できる。
chujiten: old (historical) documents, ancient [old] manuscripts.
  Comments: 
encompasses ancient texts but maybe it's safer to go with "historical"/"old"?
  Diff: 
@@ -19 +19 @@
-<gloss>ancient document</gloss>
+<gloss>historical document</gloss>
@@ -21 +21 @@
-<gloss>ancient manuscript</gloss>
+<gloss>old manuscript</gloss>
@@ -27 +27,2 @@
-<gloss>document addressed to someone in particular (jargon used in paleography)</gloss>
+<s_inf>paleography jargon</s_inf>
+<gloss>pre-Meiji era document addressed to someone in particular</gloss>
4. A* 2020-11-02 09:01:45 
  Comments: 
is this really ancient document or just old documents?
3. A 2012-10-10 00:47:56  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Diff: 
@@ -26,1 +26,1 @@
-<xref type="see">文書</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1583840">文書・ぶんしょ・2</xref>
2. A* 2012-09-21 13:20:23  Scott
  Refs: 
daij
  Diff: 
@@ -19,1 +19,1 @@
-<gloss>ancient documents</gloss>
+<gloss>ancient document</gloss>
@@ -21,0 +21,7 @@
+<gloss>ancient manuscript</gloss>
+<gloss>paleograph</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<xref type="see">文書</xref>
+<gloss>document addressed to someone in particular (jargon used in paleography)</gloss>
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