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A 2024-04-22 18:34:57 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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詭辯: [rK] -> [oK] |
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@@ -11 +11 @@
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2022-11-10 20:15:48 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK |
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A* 2022-11-10 12:16:18 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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Koj also has "俗に「奇弁」とも書く". As 奇 and 危 are not variants of 詭, I think they should be visible. |
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@@ -5,0 +6,2 @@
+<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
+<ke_pri>nf42</ke_pri>
@@ -13,3 +15 @@
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
-<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
-<ke_pri>nf42</ke_pri>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -19 +19 @@
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2022-11-09 05:51:24 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2022-11-09 02:50:59 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Meikyo says 奇弁 is (was?) used in newspapers as 代用字.
Daijs says 危弁 only applies in the academic / philosophical sense. Doesn't seem to be worth the trouble of adding an extra sense and sense restrictions.
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮
│ 詭弁 │ 203,605 │ 99.3% │
│ 奇弁 │ 1,091 │ 0.5% │ 🡠 sK (only shinmeikai has this as a headword; also mentioned in daijs)
│ 詭辯 │ 321 │ 0.2% │ 🡠 oK to rK (daijs, meikyo)
│ 危弁 │ 0 │ 0.0% │ 🡠 sK (mentioned in daijs and meikyo)
│ きべん │ 5,224 │ N/A │
╰─ーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯ |
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@@ -7,0 +8,4 @@
+<keb>詭辯</keb>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -8,0 +13 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -13,4 +17,0 @@
-<keb>詭辯</keb>
-<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
@@ -17,0 +19 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2021-02-07 20:43:01 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Good catch. |
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A* 2021-02-07 15:48:06 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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gg5, prog, daij |
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I don't think these glosses are correct. |
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@@ -26 +25,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
@@ -29,2 +27,0 @@
-<gloss>chicanery</gloss>
-<gloss>play on words</gloss> |