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jmdict 1537970 Active (id: 2197777)
[ichi1,news1,nf04]
やく [ichi1,news1,nf04]
1. [n]
▶ role
▶ assignment
▶ responsibility
▶ duty
▶ function
▶ job
▶ service
2. [n]
▶ position (of responsibility)
▶ post
▶ office
3. [n]
▶ part (in a play, film, etc.)
▶ role
▶ character
4. [n] {mahjong,card games,hanafuda}
▶ scoring combination
▶ hand
▶ yaku
▶ meld
Cross references:
  ⇐ see: 2847157 役札【やくふだ】 1. card that can be used to make a scoring combination
  ⇐ see: 2847184 役代【やくだい】 1. points awarded for scoring combinations
  ⇐ see: 1895940 手役【てやく】 1. scoring combination in one's dealt hand (i.e. at the start of a game); meld in a starting hand
  ⇐ see: 2826488 出来役【できやく】 1. scoring combination made with captured cards; meld
  ⇐ see: 2750640 門前清自摸和【メンゼンチンツモホー】 1. winning off a self-drawn tile while completely concealed (meld); winning off a self-drawn tile without having called any tiles
  ⇐ see: 2752760 メンタンピン 1. combination of rīchi, tanyao, and pinfu (common trio of yaku)



History:
14. A 2022-07-22 04:27:21  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Diff:
@@ -40 +40,4 @@
-<gloss>scoring combination (in mahjong, card games, etc.)</gloss>
+<field>&mahj;</field>
+<field>&cards;</field>
+<field>&hanaf;</field>
+<gloss>scoring combination</gloss>
13. A 2022-04-11 12:20:33  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
12. A* 2022-04-06 14:10:43  Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Thanks to everyone for the thoughtful feedback. I agree now that the entry is probably fine as-is, as long as we take care to avoid using "meld" and "yaku" interchangeably on senses that are mahjong-specific (unlike this one).
11. A 2022-04-06 08:13:06  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
I agree with Jim - in hanafuda and mekuri karuta, "win condition" does not work at all as a translation. Thanks for sharing your expertise on mahjong through so many entries though, Stephen! (not to mention the great work you're doing on Yomichan)
  Diff:
@@ -41 +40,0 @@
-<gloss>win condition</gloss>
@@ -43,0 +43 @@
+<gloss>meld</gloss>
10. A* 2022-04-06 04:14:06  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
GG5: 〔カードゲームや麻雀の手〕
  Comments:
I'm uncomfortable with this edit as I feel it's rather too focused on the specific situation with mahjong, where a chow (which I regard as a type of meld) is not a "win condition". Unless we were to create a mahjong-specific sense, I'd rather the sense was left the way it was, with "meld" still there as a gloss. After all the term is used in other games too.
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jmdict 1537970 Rejected (id: 2047267)
[ichi1,news1,nf04]
やく [ichi1,news1,nf04]
1. [n]
▶ role
▶ assignment
▶ responsibility
▶ duty
▶ function
▶ job
▶ service
2. [n]
▶ position (of responsibility)
▶ post
▶ office
3. [n]
▶ part (in a play, film, etc.)
▶ role
▶ character
4. [n]
▶ scoring combination (in mahjong, card games, etc.)
▶ meld
▶ hand

History:
6. R 2019-09-01 22:27:40  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Fork.
Yes, I'll move them.
5. A* 2019-09-01 00:14:20  Nicolas Maia
  Comments:
The crossrefs should be tied to [4], right?
4. A 2019-08-31 22:33:58  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
gg5, prog, daij
  Comments:
Expanding.
  Diff:
@@ -18,2 +18,6 @@
-<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
-<gloss>use</gloss>
+<gloss>role</gloss>
+<gloss>assignment</gloss>
+<gloss>responsibility</gloss>
+<gloss>duty</gloss>
+<gloss>function</gloss>
+<gloss>job</gloss>
@@ -21,3 +24,0 @@
-<gloss>role</gloss>
-<gloss>part</gloss>
-<gloss>performance</gloss>
@@ -27 +28 @@
-<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
+<gloss>position (of responsibility)</gloss>
@@ -29 +30 @@
-<gloss>position</gloss>
+<gloss>office</gloss>
@@ -33 +34,7 @@
-<gloss>scoring combination (e.g. in mahjong, card games, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>part (in a play, film, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>role</gloss>
+<gloss>character</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>scoring combination (in mahjong, card games, etc.)</gloss>
3. A* 2019-08-31 09:19:43  Nicolas Maia
  Refs:
wordnet etc https://ejje.weblio.jp/content/役
  Diff:
@@ -21,0 +22,2 @@
+<gloss>part</gloss>
+<gloss>performance</gloss>
2. A 2018-10-24 00:58:04  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
OK
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