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A 2020-06-17 08:35:33 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Probably all done. |
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A* 2020-06-13 01:08:06 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Reopening as a reminder to do the others. |
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A 2020-06-13 01:07:30 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think we can/should. All the JEs do it.
I'll amend this one, approve and reopen as we should go through with Marcus' May 26 suggestion of a revised format. That can be self-approved I think. |
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-<gloss>the snake (sixth sign of the Chinese zodiac)</gloss>
-<gloss>the serpent</gloss>
+<gloss>the Snake (sixth sign of the Chinese zodiac)</gloss>
+<gloss>the Serpent</gloss>
@@ -24 +24 @@
-<gloss>hour of the snake (around 10am, 9-11am, or 10am-12 noon)</gloss>
+<gloss>hour of the Snake (around 10am, 9-11am, or 10am-12 noon)</gloss> |
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A* 2020-06-03 17:28:56 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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Should we capitalise "snake" (and the other zodiac names)? |
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A* 2020-06-03 04:26:01 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Reopen. |
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A 2020-06-03 04:25:24 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think senses 2-4 should be tagged, and probably "[obs]" is OK ("used for terms that were in use in the Meiji and early Showa periods, but are no longer in general use").
I'll close it fix an xref and reopen. I'm quite happy for this to be the pattern for other Chinese zodiac entries. |
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+<misc>&obs;</misc>
@@ -26,0 +28 @@
+<misc>&obs;</misc>
@@ -30,0 +33 @@
+<misc>&obs;</misc> |
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A* 2020-06-03 01:37:33 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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it might also be a candidate for "obs", given that this entire system of telling the time has been superceded.
i wouldn't go "dated", as to me that suggests that it's the kind of thing that your uncle or grandpa might still say |
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A* 2020-05-30 12:51:37 Frazer Robinson <...address hidden...>
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I think we should tag all terms related to ancient concepts with a [dated] or [arch] tag, so that these entries can be filtered
out of searches. |
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A* 2020-05-29 00:53:48 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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Could we do that by making the glosses "direction of the snake (south-southeast)" and "month of the snake (fourth month of the lunar calendar)"? |
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A* 2020-05-28 03:57:03 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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The point of using [dated] or [arch] or whatever on senses 2-4 is that they aren't used currently, unlike sense 1.
There's other ways of saying "10 am" or "south-southeast" or "April" used today, and I think it'd be helpful to somehow
indicate this to people, not least for reverse searches. |
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A* 2020-05-27 23:47:07 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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daijr, koj, gg5, prog
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/巳 |
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Given that Chinese zodiac itself is ancient, I don't think it's necessary to tag the associated times, directions and months as archaic or dated. Prog lists them all. I'm not sure I'd actually consider them separate senses but it's definitely neater this way.
I hear "year of the snake" more often than "year of the serpent". The JEs and Wikipedia capitalise it. Should we do the same here?
Added し reading. |
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@@ -11,0 +12,3 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>し</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -14,2 +17,2 @@
-<gloss>the serpent (sixth sign of the Chinese zodiac)</gloss>
-<gloss>the snake</gloss>
+<gloss>the snake (sixth sign of the Chinese zodiac)</gloss>
+<gloss>the serpent</gloss>
@@ -20,3 +23 @@
-<misc>&dated;</misc>
-<gloss>hour of the serpent (around 10am, 9-11am, or 10am-12 noon)</gloss>
-<gloss>hour of the snake</gloss>
+<gloss>hour of the snake (around 10am, 9-11am, or 10am-12 noon)</gloss>
@@ -26 +26,0 @@
-<misc>&dated;</misc>
@@ -31 +30,0 @@
-<misc>&dated;</misc> |
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A* 2020-05-26 06:03:51 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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daij |
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this is my suggestion for how to format our Chinese zodiac entries. I don't know if [dated] is right (or if they should be [arch]), and I'm happy for
anybody else to take a stab at this however they see fit. |
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-<gloss>sixth sign of the Chinese zodiac (The Serpent, 9am-11am, south-southeast, April)</gloss>
+<gloss>the serpent (sixth sign of the Chinese zodiac)</gloss>
+<gloss>the snake</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2844883">巳の刻</xref>
+<misc>&dated;</misc>
+<gloss>hour of the serpent (around 10am, 9-11am, or 10am-12 noon)</gloss>
+<gloss>hour of the snake</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&dated;</misc>
+<gloss>south-southeast</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&dated;</misc>
+<gloss>fourth month of the lunar calendar</gloss> |
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A 2018-04-08 12:52:34 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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-<gloss>sixth sign of Chinese zodiac (The Serpent, 9am-11am, south-southeast, April)</gloss>
+<gloss>sixth sign of the Chinese zodiac (The Serpent, 9am-11am, south-southeast, April)</gloss> |