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A 2023-11-05 20:37:45 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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This form is more common. |
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-<gloss>counting one's chickens before they've hatched</gloss>
+<gloss>counting one's chickens before they're hatched</gloss> |
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A 2023-10-03 11:55:25 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2023-10-03 04:46:20 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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〈捕／取／獲／と〉らぬ〈狸／タヌキ／たぬき〉の〈皮算用／かわざんよう〉
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーーーーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 捕らぬ狸の皮算用 │ 12,145 │ 36.8% │
│ 取らぬ狸の皮算用 │ 10,362 │ 31.4% │
│ 獲らぬ狸の皮算用 │ 2,681 │ 8.1% │
│ とらぬ狸の皮算用 │ 3,471 │ 10.5% │ - sK
│ 捕らぬタヌキの皮算用 │ 937 │ 2.8% │ - sK
│ 取らぬタヌキの皮算用 │ 874 │ 2.7% │ - sK
│ 獲らぬタヌキの皮算用 │ 297 │ 0.9% │ - sK
│ とらぬタヌキの皮算用 │ 980 │ 3.0% │ - sK
│ とらぬたぬきの皮算用 │ 511 │ 1.6% │
│ 捕らぬたぬきの皮算用 │ 378 │ 1.1% │
│ 取らぬたぬきの皮算用 │ 277 │ 0.8% │
│ 獲らぬたぬきの皮算用 │ 51 │ 0.2% │
│ とらぬたぬきのかわざんよう │ 0 │ 0.0% │
│ とらぬタヌキのかわざんよう │ 0 │ 0.0% │ - drop
╰─ーーーーーーーーーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯ |
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@@ -14,0 +15 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -17,0 +19 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -20,0 +23 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -23,0 +27 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -26,0 +31 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -30,11 +34,0 @@
-<re_restr>捕らぬ狸の皮算用</re_restr>
-<re_restr>取らぬ狸の皮算用</re_restr>
-<re_restr>獲らぬ狸の皮算用</re_restr>
-<re_restr>とらぬ狸の皮算用</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>とらぬタヌキのかわざんよう</reb>
-<re_restr>捕らぬタヌキの皮算用</re_restr>
-<re_restr>取らぬタヌキの皮算用</re_restr>
-<re_restr>獲らぬタヌキの皮算用</re_restr>
-<re_restr>とらぬタヌキの皮算用</re_restr> |
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A 2018-08-29 16:43:24 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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When the n-gram counts are so close I think it's OK to adjust the ordering slightly. |
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@@ -11,3 +10,0 @@
-<keb>とらぬ狸の皮算用</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
@@ -17 +14 @@
-<keb>とらぬタヌキの皮算用</keb>
+<keb>とらぬ狸の皮算用</keb>
@@ -27,0 +25,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>とらぬタヌキの皮算用</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -31,0 +32 @@
+<re_restr>獲らぬ狸の皮算用</re_restr>
@@ -33 +33,0 @@
-<re_restr>獲らぬ狸の皮算用</re_restr>
@@ -37 +36,0 @@
-<re_restr>とらぬタヌキの皮算用</re_restr>
@@ -40,0 +40 @@
+<re_restr>とらぬタヌキの皮算用</re_restr> |
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A* 2018-08-29 04:46:29 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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取らぬタヌキの皮算用 874
獲らぬタヌキの皮算用 297
捕らぬタヌキの皮算用 937
とらぬ狸の皮算用 3471
とらぬタヌキの皮算用 980 |
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A few more forms. |
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@@ -10,0 +11,3 @@
+<keb>とらぬ狸の皮算用</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -11,0 +15,12 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>とらぬタヌキの皮算用</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>捕らぬタヌキの皮算用</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>取らぬタヌキの皮算用</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>獲らぬタヌキの皮算用</keb>
@@ -14,0 +30,11 @@
+<re_restr>捕らぬ狸の皮算用</re_restr>
+<re_restr>取らぬ狸の皮算用</re_restr>
+<re_restr>とらぬ狸の皮算用</re_restr>
+<re_restr>獲らぬ狸の皮算用</re_restr>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>とらぬタヌキのかわざんよう</reb>
+<re_restr>とらぬタヌキの皮算用</re_restr>
+<re_restr>捕らぬタヌキの皮算用</re_restr>
+<re_restr>取らぬタヌキの皮算用</re_restr>
+<re_restr>獲らぬタヌキの皮算用</re_restr> |
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A 2018-07-26 23:41:45 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK |
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A* 2018-07-26 17:43:02 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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Should probably be an id rather than a proverb, then. |
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-<misc>&proverb;</misc>
+<misc>&id;</misc> |
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A* 2018-07-26 16:45:22 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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G n-grams:
捕らぬ狸の皮算用 12145
獲らぬ狸の皮算用 2681
取らぬ狸の皮算用 10362 |
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I don't think we should be using an imperative gloss here. |
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-<keb>獲らぬ狸の皮算用</keb>
+<keb>取らぬ狸の皮算用</keb>
@@ -11 +11 @@
-<keb>取らぬ狸の皮算用</keb>
+<keb>獲らぬ狸の皮算用</keb>
@@ -19 +19 @@
-<gloss>don't count your chickens before they're hatched</gloss>
+<gloss>counting one's chickens before they've hatched</gloss> |
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A 2014-12-05 07:52:53 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<misc>&proverb;</misc> |
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A 2012-06-30 23:47:43 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2012-06-30 11:28:41 Marcus
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better lit |
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-<gloss g_type="lit">don't assume you can grab a raccoon dog</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">counting raccoon dog skins before they have been caught</gloss> |
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A 2012-06-30 07:32:44 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2012-06-26 12:28:55 Marcus
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-<gloss>(lit: don't assume you can grab a tanuki)</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="lit">don't assume you can grab a raccoon dog</gloss> |