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A 2023-11-01 04:59:32 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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A* 2023-11-01 02:17:49 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Iwanami's kokugo is the only one I know which does both 他自 and 自他. By the way, Iwakoku and shinsen kokugo jiten are also the only ones (that I know of) with の-adjective tags like we have.
I'm not saying we should change our policy, but I'll just note that iwakoku has 自他 on this word. |
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A 2023-11-01 01:44:52 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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We always put vt first (the kokugos always put 自 first). The order doesn't indicate whether transitive or intransitive usage is more common.
I see that GG5 and meikyo have transitive examples. |
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+<pos>&vt;</pos>
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-<pos>&vt;</pos> |
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A 2023-10-31 08:28:10 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2023-10-30 12:54:34 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
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憤慨 251263
憤慨し 129687
How to resent something？:
と憤慨し 23509
に憤慨し 27659
を憤慨し 911 yikes....
を憤慨 3235
を憤慨さ 1870
を憤慨させ 1246 <- e.g. "made me resent"
を憤慨し 911
憤慨さ 8818 <- causative, made someone resent
zero hits:
site:mainichi.jp "を憤慨し"
1~2 hundred hits:
site:mainichi.jp "憤慨し" |
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Swapped [vi,vt]. That's it. Maybe usually not so important, or paid attention to, but [vi] so low that pedagogically I'd rather pretend it didn't exist. But oh well.
sankoku agrees 自他さ
ngrams show 130,000 strait suru uses, 911 straight transitive uses. Usual particle is に or と, not を.
を uses usually causative:
a mainichi を hit for させる "made me resent":
しかし、それよりもさらに私を憤慨させたのが何か分かるだろうか |
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+<pos>&vi;</pos>
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-<pos>&vi;</pos> |
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A 2021-11-18 01:20:56 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Meikyo vt and vi additions to n,vs entries
-*- via bulkupd.py -*- |
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+<pos>&vt;</pos>
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