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jmdict 1483185 Active (id: 2156274)
彼方 [rK]
あちら [ichi1,news2,nf28] あっち [ichi1] あち [ok]
1. [pn] [uk]
《direction distant from both speaker and listener》
▶ that way
▶ that direction
▶ over there
▶ yonder
Cross references:
  ⇔ see: 1004500 【こちら】 1. this way; this direction
  ⇔ see: 1006780 【そちら】 1. that way; that direction
  ⇔ see: 1189360 【どちら】 1. which way; which direction; where
  ⇐ see: 2067770 等【ら】 2. or so; rough indicator of direction, location, amount, etc.
2. [pn] [uk]
《something physically distant from both speaker and listener, or something not visible but known by both speaker and listener》
▶ that (one)
Cross references:
  ⇐ see: 2067770 等【ら】 2. or so; rough indicator of direction, location, amount, etc.
3. [pn] [uk]
《someone physically distant from both speaker and listener, or someone not present but known by both speaker and listener. あちら is polite》
▶ that person
Cross references:
  ⇐ see: 2067770 等【ら】 2. or so; rough indicator of direction, location, amount, etc.
4. [pn] [uk]
《place distant from both speaker and listener》
▶ there
▶ over there
▶ foreign country (esp. a Western nation)
Cross references:
  ⇐ see: 2067770 等【ら】 2. or so; rough indicator of direction, location, amount, etc.



History:
11. A 2021-11-06 06:38:53  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
https://hinative.com/ja/questions/10393
Q:彼方の読み方はいくつがありますか?
A:かなた
だけだと思います。
A:確かに3つありますね!知らなかった。笑
彼方と書いてあったら、かなたと読む方が多いと思います。
A: かなた、と読むイメージしかなかったです
  Diff:
@@ -6,3 +6 @@
-<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
-<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
-<ke_pri>nf28</ke_pri>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
10. A 2020-12-01 01:26:07  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Here goes....
9. A* 2020-11-30 23:08:41  Frazer Robinson
  Comments:
Bringing changes over from fork. Apologies for all the edits.
  Diff:
@@ -45 +44,0 @@
-<stagr>あちら</stagr>
@@ -48 +47 @@
-<s_inf>someone physically distant from both speaker and listener, or someone not present but known by both speaker and listener</s_inf>
+<s_inf>someone physically distant from both speaker and listener, or someone not present but known by both speaker and listener. あちら is polite</s_inf>
8. A* 2020-11-30 22:36:58  Frazer Robinson
  Diff:
@@ -32,0 +33 @@
+<gloss>that direction</gloss>
7. A* 2020-11-30 22:32:54  Frazer Robinson
  Refs:
wisdom, daijs
  Comments:
aligning.
only あちら can be used for a third person, same as with こちら. described in daijs
  Diff:
@@ -30 +30,2 @@
-<gloss>that way (direction distant from both speaker and listener)</gloss>
+<s_inf>direction distant from both speaker and listener</s_inf>
+<gloss>that way</gloss>
@@ -37,2 +38,9 @@
-<gloss>that one (something physically distant from both speaker and listener, or something not visible but known by both speaker and listener)</gloss>
-<gloss>that</gloss>
+<s_inf>something physically distant from both speaker and listener, or something not visible but known by both speaker and listener</s_inf>
+<gloss>that (one)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<stagr>あちら</stagr>
+<pos>&pn;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<s_inf>someone physically distant from both speaker and listener, or someone not present but known by both speaker and listener</s_inf>
+<gloss>that person</gloss>
@@ -43,7 +51,2 @@
-<s_inf>あちら is polite</s_inf>
-<gloss>that person (someone physically distant from both speaker and listener, or someone not present but known by both speaker and listener)</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&pn;</pos>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<gloss>there (place distant from both speaker and listener)</gloss>
+<s_inf>place distant from both speaker and listener</s_inf>
+<gloss>there</gloss>
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jmdict 1483185 Rejected (id: 2089058)
彼方 [ichi1,news2,nf28]
あちら [ichi1,news2,nf28] あっち [ichi1] あち [ok]
1. [pn] [uk]
《direction distant from both speaker and listener》
▶ that way
▶ over there
▶ yonder
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 1004500 【こちら】 1. this way; this direction
  ⇒ see: 1006780 【そちら】 1. that way; that direction
  ⇒ see: 1189360 【どちら】 1. which way; which direction; where
  ⇐ see: 2067770 等【ら】 2. or so; rough indicator of direction, location, amount, etc.
2. [pn] [uk]
《something physically distant from both speaker and listener, or something not visible but known by both speaker and listener》
▶ that (one)
Cross references:
  ⇐ see: 2067770 等【ら】 2. or so; rough indicator of direction, location, amount, etc.
3. [pn] [uk]
《someone physically distant from both speaker and listener, or someone not present but known by both speaker and listener. あちら is polite》
▶ that person
Cross references:
  ⇐ see: 2067770 等【ら】 2. or so; rough indicator of direction, location, amount, etc.
4. [pn] [uk]
《place distant from both speaker and listener》
▶ there
▶ over there
▶ foreign country (esp. a Western nation)
Cross references:
  ⇐ see: 2067770 等【ら】 2. or so; rough indicator of direction, location, amount, etc.

History:
9. R 2020-12-01 01:25:42  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
I think this is the fork...
8. A* 2020-11-30 22:59:37  Frazer Robinson
  Comments:
Found refs suggesting that it's not restricted to あちら, never mind
  Diff:
@@ -43 +42,0 @@
-<stagr>あちら</stagr>
@@ -46 +45 @@
-<s_inf>someone physically distant from both speaker and listener, or someone not present but known by both speaker and listener</s_inf>
+<s_inf>someone physically distant from both speaker and listener, or someone not present but known by both speaker and listener. あちら is polite</s_inf>
7. A* 2020-11-30 22:32:54  Frazer Robinson
  Refs:
wisdom, daijs
  Comments:
aligning.
only あちら can be used for a third person, same as with こちら. described in daijs
  Diff:
@@ -30 +30,2 @@
-<gloss>that way (direction distant from both speaker and listener)</gloss>
+<s_inf>direction distant from both speaker and listener</s_inf>
+<gloss>that way</gloss>
@@ -37,2 +38,9 @@
-<gloss>that one (something physically distant from both speaker and listener, or something not visible but known by both speaker and listener)</gloss>
-<gloss>that</gloss>
+<s_inf>something physically distant from both speaker and listener, or something not visible but known by both speaker and listener</s_inf>
+<gloss>that (one)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<stagr>あちら</stagr>
+<pos>&pn;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<s_inf>someone physically distant from both speaker and listener, or someone not present but known by both speaker and listener</s_inf>
+<gloss>that person</gloss>
@@ -43,7 +51,2 @@
-<s_inf>あちら is polite</s_inf>
-<gloss>that person (someone physically distant from both speaker and listener, or someone not present but known by both speaker and listener)</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&pn;</pos>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<gloss>there (place distant from both speaker and listener)</gloss>
+<s_inf>place distant from both speaker and listener</s_inf>
+<gloss>there</gloss>
6. A 2020-10-29 03:00:58  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Diff:
@@ -26,3 +26,3 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1189360">何方・どちら・1</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1004500">此方・こちら・1</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1006780">其方・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1004500">こちら・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1006780">そちら・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1189360">どちら・1</xref>
@@ -35,0 +36 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -40,0 +42 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -45,0 +48 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
5. A 2020-05-20 04:01:01  Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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