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[n,adj-no,adj-na]
▶ bent back ▶ hunchback ▶ stoop
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11. | A 2020-01-23 23:56:10 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Thanks for the correction on the n-grams. I was aware of that but wasn't thinking carefully when I made that comment/observation. I see now that 猫背な is favoured over 猫背の in certain cases so I don't have problem with including adj-na. |
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10. | A 2020-01-23 11:28:37 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | ~20 instances of adj-na usage in the past 24 hours on Twitter 猫背のあなた 33 猫背なあなた 1760 猫背の私 525 猫背な私 400 猫背の感じ 27 猫背な感じ 210 猫背の背中 261 |
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Comments: | In a forked thread Alan Cheng wrote: I agree that a lot of the 猫背な hits are from non-adj-na usages, so I dug a little deeper into the data for 猫背な. FWIW I initially suggested this amendment because I came across it in a book (in the form 猫背な背中). ---- GG5, etc. show it's really 猫背の, but as often is the case a lot of people use ~な. I think it's worth reflecting this usage. |
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Diff: | @@ -14,0 +15 @@ +<pos>&adj-na;</pos> |
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9. | A* 2020-01-22 22:04:00 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 猫背な 10465 猫背など 2040 猫背なら 102 猫背なので 1454 猫背な私 400 猫背なのは 313 猫背なハンバーグ 303 猫背なのです 254 猫背なのに 253 猫背なのか 251 猫背なのが 219 |
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Comments: | Re "A lot of those 〜な counts are for など, なん, なら, etc." This is not actually the case. The n-gram counts are based on morphemes, and など, なら, etc. are distinct morphemes. A text sequence such as "猫背など姿勢が悪いと" is segmented as "猫背 + など + 姿勢 + が + 悪い + と" and would not be included in the 猫背な count. The highish 猫背な is probably coming from other sources, some of which I've included. E.g. 猫背なのは is segmented as 猫背 + な + の + は. (I'll close this comment after a while.) |
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8. | A 2020-01-22 11:56:25 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 猫背の人 2208 猫背の男 487 猫背な人 99 猫背な男 No matches |
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Comments: | I don't agree in this case. None of the refs have this as adj-na, and adj-na usage isn't especially common. A lot of those 〜な counts are for など, なん, なら, etc. |
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Diff: | @@ -15 +14,0 @@ -<pos>&adj-na;</pos> |
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7. | A* 2020-01-22 09:19:24 Alan Cheng <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 猫背 222457 猫背の 25474 猫背な 10465 |
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Diff: | @@ -14,0 +15 @@ +<pos>&adj-na;</pos> |
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[n,adj-no]
▶ bent back ▶ hunchback ▶ stoop |
10. | R 2020-01-23 11:25:43 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Fork. Refs and comments transferred. |
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9. | A* 2020-01-23 07:51:27 Alan Cheng <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | ~20 instances of adj-na usage in the past 24 hours on Twitter 猫背のあなた 33 猫背なあなた 1760 猫背の私 525 猫背な私 400 猫背の感じ 27 猫背な感じ 210 猫背の背中 261 猫背な背中 121 |
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Comments: | I agree that a lot of the 猫背な hits are from non-adj-na usages, so I dug a little deeper into the data for 猫背な. FWIW I initially suggested this amendment because I came across it in a book (in the form 猫背な背中). |
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8. | A 2020-01-22 11:56:25 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 猫背の人 2208 猫背の男 487 猫背な人 99 猫背な男 No matches |
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Comments: | I don't agree in this case. None of the refs have this as adj-na, and adj-na usage isn't especially common. A lot of those 〜な counts are for など, なん, なら, etc. |
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Diff: | @@ -15 +14,0 @@ -<pos>&adj-na;</pos> |
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7. | A* 2020-01-22 09:19:24 Alan Cheng <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 猫背 222457 猫背の 25474 猫背な 10465 |
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Diff: | @@ -14,0 +15 @@ +<pos>&adj-na;</pos> |
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6. | A 2017-11-02 04:21:32 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
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