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A 2023-04-28 11:17:06 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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It's in GG5 and ルミナス, so I'd avoid [dated]. |
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A* 2023-04-26 21:31:01 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I'm not sure. Sankoku 8th ed. (2021) doesn't indicate that it's dated. The 天然痘 entries in the newest editions of daijr and daijs point to 痘瘡. |
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A* 2023-04-26 17:14:13 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーー─┬───────┬───────╮
│ 痘瘡 │ 4,306 │ 76.5% │
│ 痘そう │ 1,321 │ 23.5% │ - add
│ 痘瘡ワクチン │ 108 │ N/A │
│ 痘そうワクチン │ 177 │ N/A │
╰─ーーーーーーー─┴───────┴───────╯ |
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+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>痘そう</keb> |
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A* 2023-04-26 16:59:19 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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smk5 (1997): 「天然痘」の意の漢語的表現。
smk8 (2020): 「天然痘」の意の古風な表現。 |
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I think [dated] might be okay |
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A 2023-04-26 12:04:32 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2023-04-22 18:16:21 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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We have three different words here. もがさ and おやく are archaic. I suggest dropping both.
とうそう isn't marked as dated in sankoku, meikyo or shinmeikai. I think an x-ref is sufficient.
Brian, please read my comment on 1840080 regarding x-refs. |
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-<k_ele>
-<keb>御厄</keb>
-</k_ele>
@@ -12,10 +8,0 @@
-<re_restr>痘瘡</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>もがさ</reb>
-<re_restr>痘瘡</re_restr>
-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>おやく</reb>
-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
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-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="1439670">天然痘・てんねんとう</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1439670">天然痘</xref>
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-<misc>&dated;</misc> |
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A* 2023-04-22 16:45:00 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
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https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/天然痘
天然痘（てんねんとう、variola, smallpox）...疱瘡（ほうそう）、痘瘡（とうそう）ともいう
医学界では一般に痘瘡の語が用いられた。
天然痘 52606 62.8%
疱瘡 22856 27.3%
痘瘡 4306 5.1%
痘痕 4018 4.8%
sankoku defn: 医学->天然痘 |
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This term: 4306
xref: 52606
Wikipedia says: 医学界では一般に痘瘡の語が用いられた。 "*was* commonly used by the medical profession".
Take this article for example:
https://www.newsweekjapan.jp/stories/world/2021/11/40-42.php
The whole article is on the history of 天然痘, "痘瘡" gets dropped once.
Google news returns a mountain of results for 天然痘, one page for 痘瘡 (including the example above, which is really about 天然痘).
[dated] is just an easy hint that a learner should use the xref (or maybe the [col] 疱瘡, but probably not this term). Not 100% on how much this is used in modern times.
sankoku says this term is 医学, but says the same of 天然痘 |
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+<xref type="see" seq="1439670">天然痘・てんねんとう</xref>
+<field>&med;</field>
+<misc>&dated;</misc> |