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jmdict 1445060 Active (id: 2107275)
都民 [news1,nf08]
【 とみん [news1,nf08] 】
1. [n]
▶ resident of Tokyo
▶ citizen of Tokyo
▶ Tokyoite



History:
10. A 2021-07-08 18:01:16  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
Also, "citizen: an inhabitant of a particular town or city – the good citizens of Edinburgh." (Oxford)
9. A 2021-07-07 21:07:29  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
Sorry, I should have checked.
I wondered if residents of a city are really "citizens", but I see the JEs use that term.
8. A 2021-07-07 01:17:10  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
In the article linked as evidence for sense 2, the party is referred to as "都民ファ", not 都民.
  Diff: 
@@ -19,6 +18,0 @@
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="2849812">都民ファーストの会</xref>
-<misc>&abbr;</misc>
-<gloss>Tomin First no Kai (regional political party in Tokyo)</gloss>
7. A 2021-07-07 01:14:49  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Refs: 
ニューヨーク都民	No matches
ニューヨーク市民	3659

ロンドン都民	No matches
ロンドン市民	3371

パリ都民	No matches
パリ市民	6454

パリの都民	No matches
パリの市民	490

ブラジリア市民	No matches
ブラジリア都民	No matches
ブラジリアの市民	No matches
ブラジリアの都民	No matches
サンパウロ都民	No matches
サンパウロの都民	No matches
6. A* 2021-07-07 00:56:52  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
It's not used outside of a Japanese context. 都 always refers to Tokyo in contemporary Japanese.
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jmdict 1445060 Rejected (id: 2107089)
都民 [news1,nf08]
【 とみん [news1,nf08] 】
1. [n]
▶ resident of Tokyo
▶ citizen of Tokyo
▶ Tokyoite
2. [n] [abbr]
▶ Tomin First no Kai (regional political party in Tokyo)
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 2849812 都民ファーストの会 1. Tomin First no Kai (regional political party in Tokyo)

History:
7. R 2021-07-07 01:14:37  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
fork
6. A* 2021-07-07 00:57:29  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Refs: 
ニューヨーク都民	No matches
ニューヨーク市民	3659
  Comments: 
Where's the evidence of this being used in reference to city dwellers in other countries?
5. A* 2021-07-07 00:42:48  Nicolas Maia
  Comments: 
I think this latest revision by Robin makes the entry misleading and less useful. Just because 都 most commonly refers to Tokyo doesn't mean it's not applied to other cities when used outside a Japanese context. The fact that most of the kokugos adopt this insular mentality should not be taken as gospel IMO.
4. A 2021-07-07 00:17:21  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Refs: 
gg5, daij, koj, meikyo
  Comments: 
Most of the kokugos define it as "東京都の住民". Let's stick with that.
  Diff: 
@@ -16 +15,0 @@
-<gloss>city populace</gloss>
@@ -17,0 +17 @@
+<gloss>citizen of Tokyo</gloss>
3. A* 2021-07-06 19:21:23  Opencooper
  Refs: 
Wisdom
  Comments: 
(The refs mainly refer to Tokyo, but nikk and wikt mention the extended usage for capital cities)
  Diff: 
@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<gloss>Tokyoite</gloss>
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