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1. |
[n]
▶ long life ▶ longevity |
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2. |
[adj-f]
▶ long-lived ▶ long-running (e.g. TV program) |
4. | A 2024-02-04 18:01:22 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Two senses in daijr/s. |
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3. | A* 2024-02-03 05:03:03 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | eijiro: 長寿番組 a long-running program(ラジオ・テレビの) long-running show(ラジオ・テレビの) 長寿社会 long-lived society longevity society <--- Perhaps a society for the study of longevity? Not worried about this one... Many long-running examples https://context.reverso.net/translation/japanese-english/長寿#long-running A list of [adj-f] vs [adj-no] comparisons: 長寿コミック 138 長寿のコミック 0 長寿番組 49057 長寿の番組 93 長寿ラジオ 588 長寿のラジオ 0 長寿企業 12305 長寿の企業 25 長寿シリーズ 4247 長寿のシリーズ 45 の does not look like [adj-no]: 長寿の秘訣 22675 <-- the secret to long life 長寿のお祝い 26705 <-- blessing that one may have a long life (I assume) 長寿の湯 9091 <-- fountain/springs/water that confer long life You can skim the list, but they all look like this to me... https://www.edrdg.org/~jwb/cgi-bin/ngramlookup?sent=長寿の&topjuku=on&top100=on |
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Comments: | Encountered in Frieren as 長寿友達 about a several-hundred-year-old dwarf. "my long-lived friend". This is an uncommon collocation *but* it notably appears as an adj-f construction, not adj-no. This is consistent with various other ngram examples pulled from a reverso search on 長寿 + "long-running". All are quite rarely adj-no vs adj-f (refs). 長寿の collocations appear to be "fountain of youth" variety, which I think we would not consider adj-no at all. (not a fountain that lives a long time, but a fountain that confers long life). Non-natives would have a hard time getting from "long life" to "long-lived"(even some natives might...). Combined with the unexpected "long-running", I think it's worth splitting out. We have one collocation, 長寿番組: long-lived program (on TV, radio, etc.); long runner But there are evidently a bunch of similar terms with reasonable ngram counts, and the structure appears to be productive. So I think it's valuable. |
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Diff: | @@ -16 +15,0 @@ -<pos>&adj-no;</pos> @@ -18,0 +18,5 @@ +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&adj-f;</pos> +<gloss>long-lived</gloss> +<gloss>long-running (e.g. TV program)</gloss> |
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2. | A 2019-01-04 00:01:31 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
1. | A* 2019-01-03 21:38:56 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | gg5, prog |
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Diff: | @@ -16,0 +17 @@ +<gloss>long life</gloss> |