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A 2024-11-19 05:48:40 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬───────────┬───────╮
│ 其れでは │ 4,705 │ 0.1% │ - add
│ それでは │ 6,367,875 │ 99.9% │
╰─ーーーー─┴───────────┴───────╯ |
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Removed in 2021 |
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@@ -3,0 +4,4 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>其れでは</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
@@ -9,0 +14 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -16,0 +22 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -21,0 +28 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -27,0 +35 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc> |
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A 2023-08-19 02:29:16 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK, I've done the split. |
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-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>それじゃ</reb>
-<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>それじゃあ</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>そいじゃ</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>そんじゃ</reb> |
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A* 2023-08-19 00:05:32 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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そんじゃ 90,271
そんじゃあ 7,645
そんじゃまた 5,305 |
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It's valid but I think it should be split off into a separate col-tagged entry along with それじゃ, それじゃあ and そいじゃ. Meikyo defines それじゃ as "「それでは」のくだけた言い方". |
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A* 2023-08-17 23:36:47 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Please provide references and/or examples. Is it dialect? |
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A* 2023-08-17 13:07:28
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+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>そんじゃ</reb> |
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A 2022-08-10 03:35:21 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK. Splitting. |
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-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ほんじゃ</reb> |
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A* 2022-08-07 04:33:13 Marcus Richert
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I think ほんじゃ should be a separate entry. I think it's Western Japanese dialect. Could possibly be added to ほな |
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A* 2022-08-07 00:08:26 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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https://ja.hinative.com/questions/1136232
「それでは、という意味の方言です。
ほんじゃ、またね
（それでは、またね）」
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーー─┬─────╮
│ ほんじゃまたね │ 430 │
╰─ーーーーーーー─┴─────╯ |
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@@ -16,0 +17,3 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ほんじゃ</reb> |
| 11. |
A 2021-12-14 19:43:39 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Daijr too. |
| 10. |
A* 2021-12-14 09:38:51
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三省堂 スーパー大辞林 |
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+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>そいじゃ</reb> |
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A 2021-10-22 22:45:24 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2021-10-22 22:39:48 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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gg5, daij, meikyo
Oxford: see you in an hour then. |
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I prefer "bye" to "bye-bye" here. And apparently the comma isn't needed.
The kokugos have two 接続 senses and a 連語 sense.
I'll reindex the sentences if this is approved. |
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@@ -16,3 +16,10 @@
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<gloss>well then ...</gloss>
+<pos>&conj;</pos>
+<s_inf>used to end a conversation or introduce a remark</s_inf>
+<gloss>well, ...</gloss>
+<gloss>right, ...</gloss>
+<gloss>now, ...</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&conj;</pos>
+<gloss>so</gloss>
+<gloss>then</gloss>
@@ -22,3 +29,3 @@
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<gloss>in that situation</gloss>
-<gloss>in which case</gloss>
+<gloss>that way (would mean ...)</gloss>
+<gloss>if that is the case</gloss>
+<gloss>in that case</gloss>
@@ -28,2 +35 @@
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<gloss>bye-bye, then</gloss>
+<gloss>bye then</gloss> |
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A 2021-10-21 22:12:29 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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May as well. |
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@@ -4,11 +3,0 @@
-<k_ele>
-<keb>其れでは</keb>
-<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>其れじゃ</keb>
-<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>其じゃあ</keb>
-</k_ele>
@@ -17 +5,0 @@
-<re_restr>其れでは</re_restr>
@@ -22 +9,0 @@
-<re_restr>其れじゃ</re_restr>
@@ -27 +13,0 @@
-<re_restr>其じゃあ</re_restr> |
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A* 2021-10-20 10:14:28 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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May I suggest we remove all the kanji from
this entry, also? |
| 5. |
A* 2021-10-20 10:10:06 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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daijs nikk |
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+<sense>
+<pos>∫</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<gloss>bye-bye, then</gloss>
+</sense> |
| 4. |
A 2018-04-30 23:01:57 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think expediency wins here. |
| 3. |
A* 2018-04-30 08:58:56 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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G n-grams:
それでは 6367875
それじゃ 1105399
それじゃあ 558629
其れでは 4705
其れじゃ 354
其じゃあ No matches |
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should in principle be split, but maybe more convenient not to |
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@@ -11,0 +12,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>其じゃあ</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -20,0 +24,4 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>それじゃあ</reb>
+<re_restr>其じゃあ</re_restr> |
| 2. |
A 2016-11-09 01:39:59 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2016-11-08 16:15:01 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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@@ -9,0 +10 @@
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
@@ -27,0 +29 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc> |